• LX7007 "computing security" forever

    From Moshe Braner@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 15:59:10 2022
    The LX7007 Pro IGC we're now flying with goes into "computing security"
    mode after landing, as it is supposed to, to finalize the flight log in
    the sense of IGC file security. (This model does not generate an IGC
    file, rather, a file in a proprietary format that is also acceptable to
    the IGC.) The problem is, this is supposed to take "a minute", but in
    our case, after it says "computing security" it never seems to complete
    that, even after 10 minutes or more. This prevents us from using this
    device as an IGC certified flight recorder. What can be the matter?
    We've had the internal battery replaced this year, and officially
    re-sealed, when it boots up it says "security OK".

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane_Vander_Veke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 4 01:03:23 2022
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted (newer - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

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  • From Dan Daly@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 4 04:52:17 2022
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander Veken wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted (newer - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few years ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If the GPS battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set an alarm that the position is not reliable; no way to
    see it, but it might affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the FR.

    2D

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  • From Moshe Braner@21:1/5 to Dan Daly on Tue Oct 4 10:29:05 2022
    On 10/4/2022 7:52 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander Veken wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted (newer - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few years ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If the GPS battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set an alarm that the position is not reliable; no way
    to see it, but it might affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the FR.

    2D


    We replaced both batteries this year, and the reported GPS date is
    correct. There is a not-too-large SD card in it. I'll check/clear the internal memory when I get the chance.

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  • From kinsell@21:1/5 to Moshe Braner on Tue Oct 4 09:01:56 2022
    On 10/4/22 08:29, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 7:52 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander Veken
    wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted (newer
    - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few years
    ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If the GPS
    battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set an alarm
    that the position is not reliable; no way to see it, but it might
    affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the FR.

    2D


    We replaced both batteries this year, and the reported GPS date is
    correct.  There is a not-too-large SD card in it.  I'll check/clear the internal memory when I get the chance.


    As mentioned, the formatting is important. Old gear needs old file
    systems, like FAT or FAT32. Definitely not NTFS.

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  • From Tim Newport-Peace@21:1/5 to kinsell on Tue Oct 4 17:13:48 2022
    On 04/10/2022 16:01, kinsell wrote:
    On 10/4/22 08:29, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 7:52 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander
    Veken wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted (newer
    - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few
    years ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If
    the GPS battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set an
    alarm that the position is not reliable; no way to see it, but it
    might affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the FR.

    2D


    We replaced both batteries this year, and the reported GPS date is
    correct.  There is a not-too-large SD card in it.  I'll check/clear
    the internal memory when I get the chance.


    As mentioned, the formatting is important.  Old gear needs old file
    systems, like FAT or FAT32.  Definitely not NTFS.

    Silly Question, but is the Protect Switch on the SD Card in the NOT
    PROTECTED Position?

    Worth visiting the SD Association site: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/
    and using their formatter (but only for SD cards.

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  • From Moshe Braner@21:1/5 to Tim Newport-Peace on Tue Oct 4 15:45:40 2022
    On 10/4/2022 12:13 PM, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
    On 04/10/2022 16:01, kinsell wrote:
    On 10/4/22 08:29, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 7:52 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander
    Veken wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted
    (newer - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few
    years ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If
    the GPS battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set
    an alarm that the position is not reliable; no way to see it, but it
    might affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the FR.

    2D


    We replaced both batteries this year, and the reported GPS date is
    correct.  There is a not-too-large SD card in it.  I'll check/clear
    the internal memory when I get the chance.


    As mentioned, the formatting is important.  Old gear needs old file
    systems, like FAT or FAT32.  Definitely not NTFS.

    Silly Question, but is the Protect Switch on the SD Card in the NOT
    PROTECTED Position?

    Worth visiting the SD Association site: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/
    and using their formatter (but only for SD cards.


    I'll check when I get the chance, but this LX7007 has successfully
    written data to this SD card in the past. Also, the transfer to the SD
    card is a separate step. When it is "computing security" the LX7007 is
    writing to its internal memory (which I'll check to make sure it is not
    full, but you'd think it would tell you that explicitly?).

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  • From Mark Mocho@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 4 14:08:57 2022
    Have you contacted LX or asked on the LXNAV group?

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  • From Tim Newport-Peace@21:1/5 to Moshe Braner on Tue Oct 4 21:58:09 2022
    On 04/10/2022 20:45, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 12:13 PM, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
    On 04/10/2022 16:01, kinsell wrote:
    On 10/4/22 08:29, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 7:52 AM, Dan Daly wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:03:24 AM UTC-4, Stéphane Vander
    Veken wrote:
    I can think of two possibilities:

    Perhaps the internal memory is full?
    Do you have an SD card in the slot? Is it correctly formatted
    (newer - bigger - cards may be incompatible)?

    There are two batteries in the LX7007 Pro IGC. I owned one a few
    years ago, and I had to replace both to get it working properly. If
    the GPS battery is dead, the epoch might be wrong, which might set
    an alarm that the position is not reliable; no way to see it, but
    it might affect a security check from the IGC recording part of the
    FR.

    2D


    We replaced both batteries this year, and the reported GPS date is
    correct.  There is a not-too-large SD card in it.  I'll check/clear
    the internal memory when I get the chance.


    As mentioned, the formatting is important.  Old gear needs old file
    systems, like FAT or FAT32.  Definitely not NTFS.

    Silly Question, but is the Protect Switch on the SD Card in the NOT
    PROTECTED Position?

    Worth visiting the SD Association site:
    https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/
    and using their formatter (but only for SD cards.


    I'll check when I get the chance, but this LX7007 has successfully
    written data to this SD card in the past.  Also, the transfer to the SD
    card is a separate step.  When it is "computing security" the LX7007 is writing to its internal memory (which I'll check to make sure it is not
    full, but you'd think it would tell you that explicitly?).

    What is SUPPOSED to happen is that older traces are deleted as more
    memory is required, so no message is required. However, I can remember Cambridge having a problem in this area in the dim and distant past, so unlikely but not impossible.

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  • From Moshe Braner@21:1/5 to Mark Mocho on Tue Oct 4 19:42:15 2022
    On 10/4/2022 5:08 PM, Mark Mocho wrote:
    Have you contacted LX or asked on the LXNAV group?

    The LX7007 is old (from before the company split), not supported, and apparently not discussed in that group. This specific version has the
    SD card slot, which is a major advantage over the older models. Other
    than this issue, the one we have seems to work fine, for nav and as a
    vario, now that we've figured out which setting makes the vario audio
    bearable :-)

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  • From 2G@21:1/5 to Moshe Braner on Sat Oct 22 18:05:50 2022
    On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:42:20 PM UTC-7, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 10/4/2022 5:08 PM, Mark Mocho wrote:
    Have you contacted LX or asked on the LXNAV group?

    The LX7007 is old (from before the company split), not supported, and apparently not discussed in that group. This specific version has the
    SD card slot, which is a major advantage over the older models. Other
    than this issue, the one we have seems to work fine, for nav and as a
    vario, now that we've figured out which setting makes the vario audio bearable :-)

    The LX7007 is a product made by LX Navigation - have you asked them about this issue (yes or no)?

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