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  • Pipistrel Apis/Bee

    From Jon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 14 14:37:06 2022
    Does anyone have any experience with these gliders? I've seen some YouTube reviews on them. For a self-launching glider with a 40:1 ratio, it doesn't seem that bad with the 15m wings.

    How would this be for achieving badges? Competitions?

    Are there any specific things with this to be on the lookout for?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Jon on Sun Aug 14 19:43:26 2022
    On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 4:37:08 PM UTC-5, Jon wrote:
    Does anyone have any experience with these gliders? I've seen some YouTube reviews on them. For a self-launching glider with a 40:1 ratio, it doesn't seem that bad with the 15m wings.

    How would this be for achieving badges? Competitions?

    Are there any specific things with this to be on the lookout for?

    I flew a pure Apis with short wings (13? 13.5?) at Sports Class Nationals in 2014. you're not going to get 40:1 out of that one but probably mid 30's. Definitely good enough for badge work and regional or national sports class competition. It probably is
    really close to a Libelle in all around performance. I don't remember too many quirks. Rigging was a two pin system same as the Silent 2. I don't remember if the controls had auto hookups. It was a pretty easy to fly glider.

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  • From kinsell@21:1/5 to Jon on Sun Aug 14 22:13:59 2022
    On 8/14/22 15:37, Jon wrote:
    Does anyone have any experience with these gliders? I've seen some YouTube reviews on them. For a self-launching glider with a 40:1 ratio, it doesn't seem that bad with the 15m wings.

    How would this be for achieving badges? Competitions?

    Are there any specific things with this to be on the lookout for?

    With the motor up on the mast, this is a first generation motorglider.
    Expect more noise and vibration-related engine maintenance problems for
    this, compared to more modern designs.

    -Dave

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  • From Deane Williams@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 15:33:59 2022
    Dave,
    I have lots of experience with the Apis. Please contact me directly.

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  • From Deane Williams@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 15:37:00 2022
    Correction: To Jon, not Dave.

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  • From Jon@21:1/5 to pyroar...@gmail.com on Sun Dec 18 09:40:31 2022
    On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 3:34:01 PM UTC-7, pyroar...@gmail.com wrote:
    Dave,
    I have lots of experience with the Apis. Please contact me directly.
    Hi there, I'm finally getting back to this thread a few months later. What's the best way to contact you?

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