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    From Roy Clark, "B6"@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 14:42:07 2022
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education

    Digging into Glider Accident Statistics….
    Notice Number: NOTC2538
    It is the middle of the summer, and a precursory look at the glider accident statistics looks like we might be doing well this fiscal year (FY22). Although we have had a few tragedies, it looks like the total number of accidents is down slightly, with
    only 16 accidents listed on the NTSB CAROL search. It also seems that flight hours in gliders might be up. Of course, it all remains to be seen, but we have seen a community very engaged about discussing hazards, risk and factors involved in the
    accidents, all in the interest of making us all better and safer pilots. So please, keep it up, stay engaged and help us to make this a safer year for our sport.
    Now, if you want to look back at trends over the years, and look at both high level statistics and dig down deep into the causes, factors, types and much more, there is a way!
    A member of our community has made that much easier for all of us. After watching the FAASTeam annual program on annual/fiscal year glider accidents and reading many Soaring Safety Foundation (SSF) reports and programs. Millet Software, a specialist in
    data links, sources and data extraction developed an easier one-stop drill down for glider accident data (NTSB data) back through at least 2008. The following website will allow you to drill down on this data yourself, along with make charts and diagrams
    and more. He has made this available to the glider community in order to hopefully allow you to develop insights tailored to your specific needs, operation and club. It is useful, and I have been using it over the past few months. If you would like to
    try out the data tool set, you can find it here:
    Glider Accidents 2008-2021 (milletsoftware.com)
    Those that are computer savvy with data access and structuring tools can probably jump right in and figure it out, but others may need a tutorial on how it works. A general tutorial on how similar webpages work can be found here:
    https://youtu.be/Vwt8TXdKU7A
    So – if you have an interest, like to dig into data or just need some information for your own safety benefit, please take a look.
    FMI about the tool & website:
    Millet Software - Contact
    FMI about the FAASTeam and this notice:
    Stephen K. Brown - FAASTeam Program Manager - Boston
    781.238.7536
    Stephen.K.Brown@FAA.GOV
    .

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  • From 2G@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 17:31:13 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-7, Roy Clark, "B6" wrote:
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education

    Digging into Glider Accident Statistics….
    Notice Number: NOTC2538
    It is the middle of the summer, and a precursory look at the glider accident statistics looks like we might be doing well this fiscal year (FY22). Although we have had a few tragedies, it looks like the total number of accidents is down slightly, with
    only 16 accidents listed on the NTSB CAROL search. It also seems that flight hours in gliders might be up. Of course, it all remains to be seen, but we have seen a community very engaged about discussing hazards, risk and factors involved in the
    accidents, all in the interest of making us all better and safer pilots. So please, keep it up, stay engaged and help us to make this a safer year for our sport.
    Now, if you want to look back at trends over the years, and look at both high level statistics and dig down deep into the causes, factors, types and much more, there is a way!
    A member of our community has made that much easier for all of us. After watching the FAASTeam annual program on annual/fiscal year glider accidents and reading many Soaring Safety Foundation (SSF) reports and programs. Millet Software, a specialist in
    data links, sources and data extraction developed an easier one-stop drill down for glider accident data (NTSB data) back through at least 2008. The following website will allow you to drill down on this data yourself, along with make charts and diagrams
    and more. He has made this available to the glider community in order to hopefully allow you to develop insights tailored to your specific needs, operation and club. It is useful, and I have been using it over the past few months. If you would like to
    try out the data tool set, you can find it here:
    Glider Accidents 2008-2021 (milletsoftware.com)
    Those that are computer savvy with data access and structuring tools can probably jump right in and figure it out, but others may need a tutorial on how it works. A general tutorial on how similar webpages work can be found here:
    https://youtu.be/Vwt8TXdKU7A
    So – if you have an interest, like to dig into data or just need some information for your own safety benefit, please take a look.
    FMI about the tool & website:
    Millet Software - Contact
    FMI about the FAASTeam and this notice:
    Stephen K. Brown - FAASTeam Program Manager - Boston
    781.238.7536
    Stephen...@FAA.GOV
    .

    I played around with the software and am not sure how it helps beyond finding the N numbers of accident aircraft by make and model much easier. It would be helpful if they hot-linked to the NTSB accident report (yeah, I know how to look it up, so save
    your breath).

    Tom

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  • From Hank Nixon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 08:06:54 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 5:42:09 PM UTC-4, Roy Clark, "B6" wrote:
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education

    Digging into Glider Accident Statistics….
    Notice Number: NOTC2538
    It is the middle of the summer, and a precursory look at the glider accident statistics looks like we might be doing well this fiscal year (FY22). Although we have had a few tragedies, it looks like the total number of accidents is down slightly, with
    only 16 accidents listed on the NTSB CAROL search. It also seems that flight hours in gliders might be up. Of course, it all remains to be seen, but we have seen a community very engaged about discussing hazards, risk and factors involved in the
    accidents, all in the interest of making us all better and safer pilots. So please, keep it up, stay engaged and help us to make this a safer year for our sport.
    Now, if you want to look back at trends over the years, and look at both high level statistics and dig down deep into the causes, factors, types and much more, there is a way!
    A member of our community has made that much easier for all of us. After watching the FAASTeam annual program on annual/fiscal year glider accidents and reading many Soaring Safety Foundation (SSF) reports and programs. Millet Software, a specialist in
    data links, sources and data extraction developed an easier one-stop drill down for glider accident data (NTSB data) back through at least 2008. The following website will allow you to drill down on this data yourself, along with make charts and diagrams
    and more. He has made this available to the glider community in order to hopefully allow you to develop insights tailored to your specific needs, operation and club. It is useful, and I have been using it over the past few months. If you would like to
    try out the data tool set, you can find it here:
    Glider Accidents 2008-2021 (milletsoftware.com)
    Those that are computer savvy with data access and structuring tools can probably jump right in and figure it out, but others may need a tutorial on how it works. A general tutorial on how similar webpages work can be found here:
    https://youtu.be/Vwt8TXdKU7A
    So – if you have an interest, like to dig into data or just need some information for your own safety benefit, please take a look.
    FMI about the tool & website:
    Millet Software - Contact
    FMI about the FAASTeam and this notice:
    Stephen K. Brown - FAASTeam Program Manager - Boston
    781.238.7536
    Stephen...@FAA.GOV
    .
    A previous video by Stephen. I don't have a link to the later one.
    Not much changes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7sjJi6zJ4
    UH

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  • From Frank Whiteley@21:1/5 to Hank Nixon on Tue Aug 9 10:48:34 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 9:06:56 AM UTC-6, Hank Nixon wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 5:42:09 PM UTC-4, Roy Clark, "B6" wrote:
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education

    Digging into Glider Accident Statistics….
    Notice Number: NOTC2538
    It is the middle of the summer, and a precursory look at the glider accident statistics looks like we might be doing well this fiscal year (FY22). Although we have had a few tragedies, it looks like the total number of accidents is down slightly,
    with only 16 accidents listed on the NTSB CAROL search. It also seems that flight hours in gliders might be up. Of course, it all remains to be seen, but we have seen a community very engaged about discussing hazards, risk and factors involved in the
    accidents, all in the interest of making us all better and safer pilots. So please, keep it up, stay engaged and help us to make this a safer year for our sport.
    Now, if you want to look back at trends over the years, and look at both high level statistics and dig down deep into the causes, factors, types and much more, there is a way!
    A member of our community has made that much easier for all of us. After watching the FAASTeam annual program on annual/fiscal year glider accidents and reading many Soaring Safety Foundation (SSF) reports and programs. Millet Software, a specialist
    in data links, sources and data extraction developed an easier one-stop drill down for glider accident data (NTSB data) back through at least 2008. The following website will allow you to drill down on this data yourself, along with make charts and
    diagrams and more. He has made this available to the glider community in order to hopefully allow you to develop insights tailored to your specific needs, operation and club. It is useful, and I have been using it over the past few months. If you would
    like to try out the data tool set, you can find it here:
    Glider Accidents 2008-2021 (milletsoftware.com)
    Those that are computer savvy with data access and structuring tools can probably jump right in and figure it out, but others may need a tutorial on how it works. A general tutorial on how similar webpages work can be found here:
    https://youtu.be/Vwt8TXdKU7A
    So – if you have an interest, like to dig into data or just need some information for your own safety benefit, please take a look.
    FMI about the tool & website:
    Millet Software - Contact
    FMI about the FAASTeam and this notice:
    Stephen K. Brown - FAASTeam Program Manager - Boston
    781.238.7536
    Stephen...@FAA.GOV
    .
    A previous video by Stephen. I don't have a link to the later one.
    Not much changes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7sjJi6zJ4
    UH
    https://www.youtube.com/c/BostonFAASTEAM/videos part 1/3, 2/3, 3/3 from April 2022.

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  • From waltconnelly@aol.com@21:1/5 to Frank Whiteley on Sat Aug 13 06:45:03 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 1:48:36 PM UTC-4, Frank Whiteley wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 9:06:56 AM UTC-6, Hank Nixon wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 5:42:09 PM UTC-4, Roy Clark, "B6" wrote:
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education

    Digging into Glider Accident Statistics….
    Notice Number: NOTC2538
    It is the middle of the summer, and a precursory look at the glider accident statistics looks like we might be doing well this fiscal year (FY22). Although we have had a few tragedies, it looks like the total number of accidents is down slightly,
    with only 16 accidents listed on the NTSB CAROL search. It also seems that flight hours in gliders might be up. Of course, it all remains to be seen, but we have seen a community very engaged about discussing hazards, risk and factors involved in the
    accidents, all in the interest of making us all better and safer pilots. So please, keep it up, stay engaged and help us to make this a safer year for our sport.
    Now, if you want to look back at trends over the years, and look at both high level statistics and dig down deep into the causes, factors, types and much more, there is a way!
    A member of our community has made that much easier for all of us. After watching the FAASTeam annual program on annual/fiscal year glider accidents and reading many Soaring Safety Foundation (SSF) reports and programs. Millet Software, a
    specialist in data links, sources and data extraction developed an easier one-stop drill down for glider accident data (NTSB data) back through at least 2008. The following website will allow you to drill down on this data yourself, along with make
    charts and diagrams and more. He has made this available to the glider community in order to hopefully allow you to develop insights tailored to your specific needs, operation and club. It is useful, and I have been using it over the past few months. If
    you would like to try out the data tool set, you can find it here:
    Glider Accidents 2008-2021 (milletsoftware.com)
    Those that are computer savvy with data access and structuring tools can probably jump right in and figure it out, but others may need a tutorial on how it works. A general tutorial on how similar webpages work can be found here:
    https://youtu.be/Vwt8TXdKU7A
    So – if you have an interest, like to dig into data or just need some information for your own safety benefit, please take a look.
    FMI about the tool & website:
    Millet Software - Contact
    FMI about the FAASTeam and this notice:
    Stephen K. Brown - FAASTeam Program Manager - Boston
    781.238.7536
    Stephen...@FAA.GOV
    .
    A previous video by Stephen. I don't have a link to the later one.
    Not much changes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7sjJi6zJ4
    UH
    https://www.youtube.com/c/BostonFAASTEAM/videos part 1/3, 2/3, 3/3 from April 2022.

    In watching the 3 Glider Accident Reviews by the Boston FAASTEAM I have the following take aways regarding knowing who is working for you, mechanics and pilots and the recommendation of wearing helmets in the tow plane. I watch everything related to
    aircraft accidents, regardless of type, you begin to see patterns after a while. It is best to learn from the mistakes of others.

    I am a follower of NeuroScienceNews.com having been interested in this topic much of my life, especially during my time in nuclear medicine. It identified the Top 3 Skilled Serial-Killer Occupations: 1. Aircraft machinist/assembler; 2. Shoemaker/repair
    person; 3. Automobile upholsterer. I read “aircraft machinist/assembler as aircraft mechanic, A&P EIEIO” Think about that for a moment. A mechanic who worked on a tow plane that crashed due to horizontal stabilizer failure that should have been
    discovered on an annual inspection was also the mechanic who worked on a skydive airplane that crashed. This skydive aircraft required full left rudder trim to fly, I hope this mechanic was closely investigated by the FAA. As it is stated in the
    reviews, know not only those who fly your aircraft but those who maintain them. Not every mechanic is full of concern for those who fly. I can think of at least one whom I would not trust with a burnt out match.

    Regarding helmets, I have been thrown around quite violently in the cockpit of a Pawnee during kiting incidents and on occasion during box the wake and glider release moments when the glider student decided to veer off to the right BEFORE he released.
    While I think my shoulders took the brunt of these events I know my head impacted something hard, not enough to incapacitate me but memorable none the less. Considering what can happen in a tow plane a helmet might be a good idea. Having worked for 10
    years in a hospital in cardiovascular and general nuclear medicine I’ve seen lots of brain trauma that could have been prevented by an inexpensive bicycle helmet. I am in the process of installing my Dave Clark headset in a helmet for flying
    helicopters. The DE on my rotorwing/helicopter check ride wore one, I took notice.

    Fly safe my friends and remember, the life you save might be that of the tow pilot.

    Walt Connelly
    Former Tow Pilot
    Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to waltco...@aol.com on Sat Aug 13 07:54:46 2022
    Walt,

    Are you making money flying that helicopter or just doing it for the
    pure fun of it?

    Dan
    5J

    On 8/13/22 07:45, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    Fly safe my friends and remember, the life you save might be that of the tow pilot.

    Walt Connelly
    Former Tow Pilot
    Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

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  • From Nicholas Kennedy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 13 13:35:51 2022
    DEFINITION:

    HELICOPTER
    12,500 + - highly stressed,critical parts, moving at very high RPM's about to break.
    signed
    feel the ground, it's hard
    : ]

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  • From waltconnelly@aol.com@21:1/5 to Dan Marotta on Sun Aug 14 06:49:39 2022
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 9:54:54 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Walt,

    Are you making money flying that helicopter or just doing it for the
    pure fun of it?

    Dan
    5J
    On 8/13/22 07:45, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    Fly safe my friends and remember, the life you save might be that of the tow pilot.

    Walt Connelly
    Former Tow Pilot
    Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

    Flying for just the pure fun of it Dan. I try to get in a few hours each month in a helicopter and a sea plane. Hurt my lower back wrestling a 21 year old in a Krav Maga class several months ago (won the battle, lost the war) and it's been a chore
    just sitting in a helicopter so I'm a bit behind right now. I'm 72, got my rating at 68 and am fortunate enough to not have to work anymore. Only flew the tow plane to further fund my Roth and because I truly loved flying. I'm looking for place to do
    a Free Balloon rating but you have to get up with the chickens to do that.

    Walt Connelly

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  • From waltconnelly@aol.com@21:1/5 to nickkennedy...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 14 06:51:24 2022
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:35:53 PM UTC-4, nickkennedy...@gmail.com wrote:
    DEFINITION:

    HELICOPTER
    12,500 + - highly stressed,critical parts, moving at very high RPM's about to break.
    signed
    feel the ground, it's hard
    : ]

    Perhaps, but if I make a mistake in a helicopter it is MY mistake, not some poorly trained idiot 200 feet behind me. And if I am to lose an engine I prefer to lose it in a helicopter. I can autorotate into a much smaller space than I could land a fixed
    wing.

    Walt Connelly

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to waltco...@aol.com on Sun Aug 14 09:05:37 2022
    Well more power to you, Walt! That's kinda why I have a Stemme, a
    Cessna 180, and a home built gyro plane. The only drawback is making
    the decision as to which one to fly! Today it'll be the Stemme. We've
    had crappy weather for the past month or more and the sun is finally back!

    Dan
    5J

    On 8/14/22 07:49, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 9:54:54 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Walt,

    Are you making money flying that helicopter or just doing it for the
    pure fun of it?

    Dan
    5J
    On 8/13/22 07:45, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    Fly safe my friends and remember, the life you save might be that of the tow pilot.

    Walt Connelly
    Former Tow Pilot
    Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

    Flying for just the pure fun of it Dan. I try to get in a few hours each month in a helicopter and a sea plane. Hurt my lower back wrestling a 21 year old in a Krav Maga class several months ago (won the battle, lost the war) and it's been a chore
    just sitting in a helicopter so I'm a bit behind right now. I'm 72, got my rating at 68 and am fortunate enough to not have to work anymore. Only flew the tow plane to further fund my Roth and because I truly loved flying. I'm looking for place to do
    a Free Balloon rating but you have to get up with the chickens to do that.

    Walt Connelly

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  • From waltconnelly@aol.com@21:1/5 to Dan Marotta on Mon Aug 15 07:57:25 2022
    On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 11:05:44 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Well more power to you, Walt! That's kinda why I have a Stemme, a
    Cessna 180, and a home built gyro plane. The only drawback is making
    the decision as to which one to fly! Today it'll be the Stemme. We've
    had crappy weather for the past month or more and the sun is finally back!

    Dan
    5J
    On 8/14/22 07:49, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 9:54:54 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
    Walt,

    Are you making money flying that helicopter or just doing it for the
    pure fun of it?

    Dan
    5J
    On 8/13/22 07:45, waltco...@aol.com wrote:
    Fly safe my friends and remember, the life you save might be that of the tow pilot.

    Walt Connelly
    Former Tow Pilot
    Now Happy Helicopter Pilot

    Flying for just the pure fun of it Dan. I try to get in a few hours each month in a helicopter and a sea plane. Hurt my lower back wrestling a 21 year old in a Krav Maga class several months ago (won the battle, lost the war) and it's been a chore
    just sitting in a helicopter so I'm a bit behind right now. I'm 72, got my rating at 68 and am fortunate enough to not have to work anymore. Only flew the tow plane to further fund my Roth and because I truly loved flying. I'm looking for place to do a
    Free Balloon rating but you have to get up with the chickens to do that.

    Walt Connelly

    Dan, can't tell you how many times I've ALMOST bought an airplane and a 180 would be one of my top choices. However, I did a paper in an economics class in college at the behest of my Econ prof on the cost of owning vs renting. I was working at an
    airport/flight school at the time and had access to some quite accurate information. I don't remember the exact numbers but it appeared looking at the average hours flown per year by owners that renting would be a less expensive option. It might make
    sense with some high performance gliders. Pride of ownership and convenience seemed to be the reasons given by most owners but after insurance, yearly licensing and inspection, hangar or tie down and other fixed expenses I found clubs or renting to be
    preferable. That being said I'm trying to convince my brother to go halves with me on a Gimbal Cabri G2, I would go 55/45 partnership if the other guy had an A&P. I am investigating a helicopter leaseback situation right now, of course with proper
    insurance.

    Walt

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 15 12:37:18 2022
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