• Re: US Winching Sites

    From Walter Wissmann@21:1/5 to uline...@yahoo.com on Tue Jul 26 23:49:31 2022
    Hi Uli ,

    I need some Windenfahrer in the Yukon ,Canada . I have a Toast winch and a Blanik L23 in annual .Would be nice to get some pilots together for a camp . To get a club started here . Please advertise to all . I , too have a Windenfahrer Schein.

    Uli Klausing



    On Sunday, 13 November 2011 at 15:02:24 UTC-8, uline...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Nov 13, 1:17 pm, Herbert kilian <herbkil...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 12, 7:09 pm, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:





    On Nov 12, 1:35 am, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:

    On Nov 11, 10:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
    power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and anything inbetween. Works well so far.

    Uli Neumann
    'CSA's Winchmeister'

    Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
    we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the
    winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency.
    Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take- off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
    Uli Neumann

    Uli,
    I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
    There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you
    probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate
    and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
    Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -


    Hello Herbert,

    that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a
    relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by
    now, so come on down this winter.

    Uli

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  • From AS@21:1/5 to uklau...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 27 05:29:00 2022
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:49:32 AM UTC-4, uklau...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi Uli ,

    I need some Windenfahrer in the Yukon ,Canada . I have a Toast winch and a Blanik L23 in annual .Would be nice to get some pilots together for a camp . To get a club started here . Please advertise to all . I , too have a Windenfahrer Schein.

    Uli Klausing
    On Sunday, 13 November 2011 at 15:02:24 UTC-8, uline...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Nov 13, 1:17 pm, Herbert kilian <herbkil...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 12, 7:09 pm, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:





    On Nov 12, 1:35 am, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:

    On Nov 11, 10:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
    power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
    anything inbetween. Works well so far.

    Uli Neumann
    'CSA's Winchmeister'

    Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
    we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency.
    Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take- off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
    Uli Neumann

    Uli,
    I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
    There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you
    probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate
    and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
    Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -


    Hello Herbert,

    that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by
    now, so come on down this winter.

    Uli
    Hallo Uli - schick mir bitte eine email an moc.oohay@nnamuenilu

    Uli

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  • From youngblood8116@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Frank Whiteley on Wed Jul 27 11:09:32 2022
    On Friday, November 11, 2011 at 6:47:24 PM UTC-5, Frank Whiteley wrote:
    On Nov 11, 11:47 am, Frank Whiteley <frank.white...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 11, 8:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
    locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    No winching at Boulder currently (yet).

    From the winchdesign yahoo group.

    May not be current or complete.

    Notably missing
    # High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO Hydrowinch
    #Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
    #Rose City Soaring, Georgia
    #Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
    #Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA

    Autotow included where applicable below.

    """Site Name""" """Winch""" """Autotow"""
    Colorado Soaring Association\, Wellington\, CO Single drum\, 350cid \, 4bbl No
    #Soaring Sooners Glider Club\, Hinton\, OK Gehrlein single drum (modified) Yes
    #Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA Gehrlein single drum yes
    #Los Alamitos CAP Self made two drum no
    #AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA Roman design
    #29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA Gehrlein double drum yes
    #Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX Dual design\, single in use
    \, 454cid no
    #Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
    \, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp occasionally
    Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA Dual Drum Eagle Winch Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ Yes No
    #Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY Yes ?
    #VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
    NO
    #Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN Gehrlein
    #Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 Gehrlein
    Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX No Yes
    Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) Yes\, retrofit of single drum No (sold, no longer winching)
    Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI TOST Model 04 Double Drum No #El Paso Soaring Society Yes No
    Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA Yes No (status unknown)
    #Greater Boston Soaring Club (MITSA)
    #Shreveport Soaring
    #Menomonie Flying Club, WI, sidewinder winch yes yes

    Those marked with a # operate or have operated off of mixed use public/ private airports using main runways, taxiways, or adjacent surfaces.
    Rose City Soaring out of Quitman , Georgia has a winch but it is not operational and winch tows have not been done in years. Old Bob, The Purist

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  • From william feiges@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 10:21:14 2022
    Eagle Soaring has a winch that was in Odessa tx we are 4 miles west of the Steamboat Airport. On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:29:02 AM UTC-6, AS wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:49:32 AM UTC-4, uklau...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi Uli ,

    I need some Windenfahrer in the Yukon ,Canada . I have a Toast winch and a Blanik L23 in annual .Would be nice to get some pilots together for a camp . To get a club started here . Please advertise to all . I , too have a Windenfahrer Schein.

    Uli Klausing
    On Sunday, 13 November 2011 at 15:02:24 UTC-8, uline...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Nov 13, 1:17 pm, Herbert kilian <herbkil...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 12, 7:09 pm, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:





    On Nov 12, 1:35 am, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:

    On Nov 11, 10:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
    power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
    from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
    anything inbetween. Works well so far.

    Uli Neumann
    'CSA's Winchmeister'

    Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency. Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
    off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
    Uli Neumann

    Uli,
    I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
    There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you
    probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
    Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -


    Hello Herbert,

    that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by
    now, so come on down this winter.

    Uli
    Hallo Uli - schick mir bitte eine email an moc.oohay@nnamuenilu

    Uli

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  • From Walter Wissmann@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 13:37:27 2022
    On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 05:29:02 UTC-7, AS wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:49:32 AM UTC-4, uklau...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi Uli ,

    I need some Windenfahrer in the Yukon ,Canada . I have a Toast winch and a Blanik L23 in annual .Would be nice to get some pilots together for a camp . To get a club started here . Please advertise to all . I , too have a Windenfahrer Schein.

    Uli Klausing
    On Sunday, 13 November 2011 at 15:02:24 UTC-8, uline...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Nov 13, 1:17 pm, Herbert kilian <herbkil...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 12, 7:09 pm, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:





    On Nov 12, 1:35 am, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:

    On Nov 11, 10:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
    power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
    from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
    anything inbetween. Works well so far.

    Uli Neumann
    'CSA's Winchmeister'

    Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency. Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
    off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
    Uli Neumann

    Uli,
    I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
    There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you
    probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
    Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -


    Hello Herbert,

    that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by
    now, so come on down this winter.

    Uli
    Hallo Uli - schick mir bitte eine email an moc.oohay@nnamuenilu

    Uli

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  • From Walter Wissmann@21:1/5 to Walter Wissmann on Wed Jul 27 14:52:34 2022
    On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 13:37:29 UTC-7, Walter Wissmann wrote:
    On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 05:29:02 UTC-7, AS wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 2:49:32 AM UTC-4, uklau...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi Uli ,

    I need some Windenfahrer in the Yukon ,Canada . I have a Toast winch and a Blanik L23 in annual .Would be nice to get some pilots together for a camp . To get a club started here . Please advertise to all . I , too have a Windenfahrer Schein.

    Uli Klausing
    On Sunday, 13 November 2011 at 15:02:24 UTC-8, uline...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Nov 13, 1:17 pm, Herbert kilian <herbkil...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Nov 12, 7:09 pm, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:





    On Nov 12, 1:35 am, ulineum...@yahoo.com wrote:

    On Nov 11, 10:55 am, Karl Striedieck <karls.eagle.fi...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
    power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other locations?

    Thanks

    KS

    The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
    from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
    anything inbetween. Works well so far.

    Uli Neumann
    'CSA's Winchmeister'

    Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
    we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency. Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
    off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
    Uli Neumann

    Uli,
    I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany. There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
    Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -


    Hello Herbert,

    that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by now, so come on down this winter.

    Uli
    Hallo Uli - schick mir bitte eine email an moc.oohay@nnamuenilu

    Uli
    Ich scheine nicht durch zu kommen meine e mail uklausing@northwestel.net

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  • From Lynn Alley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 19:58:17 2022
    Utah Soaring Association operates a winch at Nephi, which has power traffic. We use the grass (actually weeds and dirt) adjacent to the runway.

    L.

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  • From Piet Barber@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 08:26:41 2022
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-4, lall...@gmail.com wrote:

    Eastern Soaring Center operates out of Petersburg WV (Grant Count Airport W99). The geography of the region makes wave lift very common at this particular location. The winch routinely gets 2000 feet of altitude with each launch, and when there is a
    westerly wind, you can go back to Charlie's Knob and use ridge lift. That can be used to connect to the secondary wave.

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  • From John Foster@21:1/5 to p...@pietbarber.com on Thu Jul 28 10:13:48 2022
    On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 9:26:43 AM UTC-6, p...@pietbarber.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-4, lall...@gmail.com wrote:

    Eastern Soaring Center operates out of Petersburg WV (Grant Count Airport W99). The geography of the region makes wave lift very common at this particular location. The winch routinely gets 2000 feet of altitude with each launch, and when there is a
    westerly wind, you can go back to Charlie's Knob and use ridge lift. That can be used to connect to the secondary wave.

    Greg Mecklenburg has a winch at the Flying Y airport in Pray, MT, just north of Yellowstone National Park. There is also the occasional power traffic in an out of that airport, but it is mostly a glider operation.

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