Looks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday. Old Bob, The Purist
A 3rd glider pilot adds, "Aggravation understood!" & "Agreed aLooks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday.
It just pisses me off at the stupid article language and verbiage
otherwise it was a non-event. https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/chelan-county/chelan-fire-rescue-glider-plane-crash/293-b72bb9da-03df-40ad-b9b4-c33e41d1864d
Two glider pilots wrote:
Looks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday.
It just pisses me off at the stupid article language and verbiage otherwise it was a non-event. https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/chelan-county/chelan-fire-rescue-glider-plane-crash/293-b72bb9da-03df-40ad-b9b4-c33e41d1864dA 3rd glider pilot adds, "Aggravation understood!" & "Agreed a
non-event," in terms of personal injury (and prolly even glider injury)...but I doubt it was a non-event from Joe Glider Pilot's perspective. Curious minds look forward to learning some situational
context
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 7:54:20 PM UTC-7, Bob W. wrote:one. Someone has more information about what happened, let’s be patient.
Two glider pilots wrote:
Looks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday.
Yes, learning is good, but let’s wait for the pilot involved report. I’ve seen this type of landing before and every single time the pilot misjudged something, but in the end he/she utilized available options and landing in the lake was the safestIt just pisses me off at the stupid article language and verbiage otherwise it was a non-event. https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/chelan-county/chelan-fire-rescue-glider-plane-crash/293-b72bb9da-03df-40ad-b9b4-c33e41d1864dA 3rd glider pilot adds, "Aggravation understood!" & "Agreed a
non-event," in terms of personal injury (and prolly even glider injury)...but I doubt it was a non-event from Joe Glider Pilot's perspective. Curious minds look forward to learning some situational context
A motorglider pilot would have just started his engine and motored away.
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater being flown solo.I think it's a DG1000.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
Lou
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater being flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
LouI think it's a DG1000.
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Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater beingI think it's a DG1000.
flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
Lou
--
Eric Greenwell - USA - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater being flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
LouI think it's a DG1000.
--Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater being flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
LouI think it's a DG1000.
--Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
Eric Greenwell - USA
- "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT), youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:Doesn't that depend on (a) damage done getting it out of the water, (b)
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater beingI think it's a DG1000.
flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy. >> >
Lou
--
Eric Greenwell - USA - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
how soon/carefully/throughly it gets dried out after being recovered and
(c) how many of the instruments, radios etc got wet?
I flew one of the first versions a long time back (2003 in Omarama) and liked it a lot: easy to fly and responsive, but it was a bit difficult to get into due to having a rather tall undercarriage, not unlike an ASH-25.
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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
Depends also on how hard the water was hit. D-tube caved in and delam'd, root rib distorted and skin delam'd, drag/lift pins bent and sheared. I've seen both gliders landed in Tahoe recently, and pictures of the DG in Chelan. There can be plenty ofdamage unless very carefully done, like an Airbus into the Hudson....
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 1:24:20 PM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT), youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:Doesn't that depend on (a) damage done getting it out of the water, (b) how soon/carefully/throughly it gets dried out after being recovered and (c) how many of the instruments, radios etc got wet?
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater being >> > flown solo.I think it's a DG1000.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy. >> >
Lou
--
Eric Greenwell - USA - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" >> https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
I flew one of the first versions a long time back (2003 in Omarama) and liked it a lot: easy to fly and responsive, but it was a bit difficult to get into due to having a rather tall undercarriage, not unlike an ASH-25.
Fitch, you're back!--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
Depends also on how hard the water was hit. D-tube caved in and delam'd,
root rib distorted and skin delam'd, drag/lift pins bent and sheared.
I've seen both gliders landed in Tahoe recently, and pictures of the DG
in Chelan. There can be plenty of damage unless very carefully done,
like an Airbus into the Hudson....
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:15:22 PM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:damage unless very carefully done, like an Airbus into the Hudson....
Depends also on how hard the water was hit. D-tube caved in and delam'd, root rib distorted and skin delam'd, drag/lift pins bent and sheared. I've seen both gliders landed in Tahoe recently, and pictures of the DG in Chelan. There can be plenty of
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 1:24:20 PM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT), youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:44:26 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:Doesn't that depend on (a) damage done getting it out of the water, (b) how soon/carefully/throughly it gets dried out after being recovered and (c) how many of the instruments, radios etc got wet?
On 6/24/2022 7:22 AM, MNLou wrote:Does anyone know the extent of the damage to the DG1000? What would be the long term effect for the future of the ship. Old Bob, The Purist
From the video and still pics, it looks like a modern 2 seater beingI think it's a DG1000.
flown solo.
Any idea which 2 seater model? Not an Arcus due to the 2 part canopy.
Lou
--
Eric Greenwell - USA - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications
I flew one of the first versions a long time back (2003 in Omarama) and liked it a lot: easy to fly and responsive, but it was a bit difficult to
get into due to having a rather tall undercarriage, not unlike an ASH-25.
--
Fitch, you're back!Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:59:36 PM UTC-6, ASM wrote:safest one. Someone has more information about what happened, let’s be patient.
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 7:54:20 PM UTC-7, Bob W. wrote:
Two glider pilots wrote:
Looks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday.
Yes, learning is good, but let’s wait for the pilot involved report. I’ve seen this type of landing before and every single time the pilot misjudged something, but in the end he/she utilized available options and landing in the lake was theIt just pisses me off at the stupid article language and verbiage otherwise it was a non-event. https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/chelan-county/chelan-fire-rescue-glider-plane-crash/293-b72bb9da-03df-40ad-b9b4-c33e41d1864dA 3rd glider pilot adds, "Aggravation understood!" & "Agreed a non-event," in terms of personal injury (and prolly even glider injury)...but I doubt it was a non-event from Joe Glider Pilot's perspective. Curious minds look forward to learning some situational context
A motorglider pilot would have just started his engine and motored away.Motored away, or trolled over to shore?
Tom
Looks like some guy landed in a lake yesterday. Old Bob, The Purist
Where does a glider get buoyancy to float? Composites are more dense than water. Or does it just float for a while, going lower and lower as the water floods everything?
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:10:49 PM UTC-4, bret...@gmail.com wrote:UH, did they have a Captains party for you when you got the ship to shore? Was the Beer flowing? Old Bob, The Purist
Where does a glider get buoyancy to float? Composites are more dense than water. Or does it just float for a while, going lower and lower as the water floods everything?It sinks pretty quickly as the water runs in through the tail and fills the fuselage.
The wings don't have much way for water to get in quickly, or air to get out, so it stops sinking when the wings get to the water.
I can tell you that being strapped in something where the water is coming up fast will concentrate your attention.
The real bitch is pulling it up on shore with the fuselage full of water. Been there -done that.
UH
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:10:49 PM UTC-4, bret...@gmail.com wrote:UH, did they have a Captains party for you when you got the ship to shore? Was the Beer flowing? Old Bob, The Purist
Where does a glider get buoyancy to float? Composites are more dense than water. Or does it just float for a while, going lower and lower as the water floods everything?It sinks pretty quickly as the water runs in through the tail and fills the fuselage.
The wings don't have much way for water to get in quickly, or air to get out, so it stops sinking when the wings get to the water.
I can tell you that being strapped in something where the water is coming up fast will concentrate your attention.
The real bitch is pulling it up on shore with the fuselage full of water. Been there -done that.
UH
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