OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
To clarify:ownership for now so that will have to wait.
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system) but it doesn't provide the persistent track access that could be critical in a retrieve or rescuesituation.
Thanks, Davis, I got mixed up here, apologies.... You have and are doing great work here, much appreciated.ownership for now so that will have to wait.
Cheers,
Jim J6
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:04:13 AM UTC-5, davis.c...@gmail.com wrote:
To clarify:
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keepingtrack of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I recognize and commend the efforts attempting to restore this valuable service, and respect that it will take some (volunteer plus probably some paid professional) time and effort to get it back fully operational. Respect for those working on it.....
Cheers,
Jim J6
On 5/2/22 08:39, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display tool
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keeping
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I recognize and commend the efforts attempting to restore this valuable service, and respect that it will take some (volunteer plus probably some paid professional) time and effort to get it back fully operational. Respect for those working on it.....
Cheers,For more discussion, see "SSA - Glider Tracking" thread from last year, starting July 4. Slightly dated info, but a lot of details.
Jim J6
I just tried to log into glideport.aero, said invalid password. Had to
OK the security exemption due to the invalid certificate. But my Garmin tracker still shows up on that map.
At the present time, the OGN viewers show Flarm signals from the OGN receivers, Naviter and IGCDroid traffic through the cell phone network,
and ADS-B signals from ADS-B Exchange. They can also show signals from low-cost OGN beacons, and SoftRF devices.
Although Glideport was great in its day, people gravitate towards things that work reliably, and also things that are cost-effective. I just
don't see Glideport catching up to what's already available today from OGN.
-Dave
Glideport is capable of showing everything that is on the OGN trackers, if everyone signs up to Niv’s server, and everything works.
I talked to Frank and they are working on resolving the glideport issues.
Meanwhile, I would have hoped that at least one of the developers of the popular OGN trackers would pay attention to the shortfalls described in the reference threads, take a good look at glideport UI, and give the OGN trackers much needed facelift andfunctionality to make them usable.
I tried multiple OGN trackers and none of them are capable of providing a sorted list of all flights in a certain area and show the full traces of all flights with a single click. It is either impossible or difficult to do with any tracker I tried. IfI was the developer of one of those trackers, I wouldn’t sleep until I could provide this very basic functionality.
I would expect that at least WeGlide will make an effort to provide such capability in its live tracking feature. Even if the history must be limited to 24 hours due to silly privacy concerns.
Is anyone from Weglide listening?track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display tool
Ramy
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:20:36 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/2/22 08:39, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keeping
For more discussion, see "SSA - Glider Tracking" thread from last year,
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I recognize and commend the efforts attempting to restore this valuable service, and respect that it will take some (volunteer plus probably some paid professional) time and effort to get it back fully operational. Respect for those working on it.....
Cheers,
Jim J6
starting July 4. Slightly dated info, but a lot of details.
I just tried to log into glideport.aero, said invalid password. Had to
OK the security exemption due to the invalid certificate. But my Garmin
tracker still shows up on that map.
At the present time, the OGN viewers show Flarm signals from the OGN
receivers, Naviter and IGCDroid traffic through the cell phone network,
and ADS-B signals from ADS-B Exchange. They can also show signals from
low-cost OGN beacons, and SoftRF devices.
Although Glideport was great in its day, people gravitate towards things
that work reliably, and also things that are cost-effective. I just
don't see Glideport catching up to what's already available today from OGN. >>
-Dave
The answer to all of the questions asked in this thread is the same: money.glider pilots so indirectly still the pilots).
There is no money in developing trackers for gliders and no money paid to site owners to make existing ones better. Worse yet, the only revenue stream available for any tracking website comes from glider pilots themselves (or sponsors who advertise to
To my knowledge the only tracker under active development is weglide. They offer a few paid plans but in reality it probably barely covers their server costs + developer costs https://www.weglide.org/plans
So if you are a glider pilot and want to see something different/better/new and not contributing then you are part of the problem. It's simple. (this is not directed at anyone in particular, but rather glider pilots as a whole)
Otherwise, there are existing options that are listed above and elsewhere.
To clarify:ownership for now so that will have to wait.
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
On 5/2/22 09:04, Davis Chappins wrote:ownership for now so that will have to wait.
To clarify:
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
Where is the registration for enabling the ADS-B to OGN relay?
I believe this is done automatically by Davis integration. If you registered your flarm on OGN, OGN already has your Mode S code which is used to sync up with ADS-B targets.ownership for now so that will have to wait.
Ramy
On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:02:30 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/2/22 09:04, Davis Chappins wrote:
To clarify:
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
Where is the registration for enabling the ADS-B to OGN relay?
Davis told me that he relays any ADS-B signal squawking 1202. Also Modeownership for now so that will have to wait.
S transponders that can be located with MLAT (on the ADS-B Exchange). Obviously a U.S. specific solution.
Many PF's are set up to use the flarm serial number instead of ICAO
code, so you can't just use a flarm registration.
On 5/15/22 11:09, Ramy wrote:
I believe this is done automatically by Davis integration. If you registered your flarm on OGN, OGN already has your Mode S code which is used to sync up with ADS-B targets.
Ramy
On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:02:30 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/2/22 09:04, Davis Chappins wrote:
To clarify:
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
Where is the registration for enabling the ADS-B to OGN relay?
I forgot about the option to use flarm serial number instead of Mode S code. I didn’t think anyone doing so. Only make sense when a portable is used in multiple gliders. Also I think this only works with Mode C transponders. I am pretty sure withMode S and ADS-B you need to use the mode S code for proper functionality.
Ramyownership for now so that will have to wait.
On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 4:08:09 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
Davis told me that he relays any ADS-B signal squawking 1202. Also Mode
S transponders that can be located with MLAT (on the ADS-B Exchange).
Obviously a U.S. specific solution.
Many PF's are set up to use the flarm serial number instead of ICAO
code, so you can't just use a flarm registration.
On 5/15/22 11:09, Ramy wrote:
I believe this is done automatically by Davis integration. If you registered your flarm on OGN, OGN already has your Mode S code which is used to sync up with ADS-B targets.
Ramy
On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:02:30 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/2/22 09:04, Davis Chappins wrote:
To clarify:
OGN can provide some similar tracking functions (even in areas without OGN ground stations, if folk register their satellite trackers via Niv's system)
You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website.
To further clarify, this was meant as a fun project to see if I could do it. Looking towards the future this functionality should be hosted on glideport, so as to not have two places to signup with the same information. However the site has no
Where is the registration for enabling the ADS-B to OGN relay?
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keepingtrack of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display tool
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I recognize and commend the efforts attempting to restore this valuable service, and respect that it will take some (volunteer plus probably some paid professional) time and effort to get it back fully operational. Respect for those working on it.....
Cheers,
Jim J6
Any news on the status of glideport.aero? It seems that it is still working generally (intermittent failures to work though....), but it looks like it is still not accepting new registrations.track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display tool
Cheers,
Jim J6
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 9:39:31 AM UTC-5, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keeping
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I recognize and commend the efforts attempting to restore this valuable service, and respect that it will take some (volunteer plus probably some paid professional) time and effort to get it back fully operational. Respect for those working on it.....
Cheers,
Jim J6
track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display toolOn Monday, May 2, 2022 at 9:39:31 AM UTC-5, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keeping
Still works good for me
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track display tool
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 9:39:31 AM UTC-5, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote:
Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/keeping
Still works good for me
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I see everyone in the USA
Faris flying South of Boulder and Colin looks like he's at his house
Been working for me all summer!
Nick
T
On 9/13/22 14:15, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:keeping track of individual satellite tracker "share pages" (this will be our fallback....). glideport.aero has great site-focused and both real-time and persistent (permanent record) tracking display that in my opinion make it the most useful track
On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 9:39:31 AM UTC-5, J6 aka Airport Bum wrote: >>>> Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchanging/
I gave up on glideport.aero a loooong time ago. Tried it again to seeStill works good for me
glideport.aero has worked occasionally over the past month or two, but not really enough of the time for sure. Hopefully something is going on to achieve full time functionality for the season.
I see everyone in the USA
Faris flying South of Boulder and Colin looks like he's at his house
Been working for me all summer!
Nick
T
all the improvements. Tried to log in using last known password, said
it was invalid. Tried the password recovery, never got an email, even
after checking spam filters. Didn't try a new registration, I'll take
Jim's word for it that it's still broken.
And of course if you use the official SSA link https://members.ssa.org/SailplaneTracker/Default.asp, it still gives the security violation warning.
If this is 'working good', I'd sure hate to see it when it's busted.
Dave
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