Hi
I'm considering installing a transponder in my glider, but I'm not 100% sure, which setup I'll be going for.
It'll be installed in a DG-808B
My options are:
1) Trig T21
https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/
2) Air Avionic
Air control Display
VT-01 XPDR module.
The Trig seems to be drawing slightly less power.
The air control display could potentially also drive the radio and provide additional altimeter...but I don't really need these features as I have a becker AR6201 in the instrument panel, and a classic winter altimeter.
If I was designing a completly new panel for a (new) glider, the Air Avionic is very interesting as it saves space on the instrument panel.
But for now...not sure it's relevant..
Any thoughts ?
Feedback on any of these solutions ?
Regards
Ludovic
Op vrijdag 22 april 2022 om 09:19:22 UTC+2 schreef Ludovic:
Hi
I'm considering installing a transponder in my glider, but I'm not 100% sure, which setup I'll be going for.
It'll be installed in a DG-808B
My options are:
1) Trig T21
https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/
2) Air Avionic
Air control Display
VT-01 XPDR module.
The Trig seems to be drawing slightly less power.
The air control display could potentially also drive the radio and provide additional altimeter...but I don't really need these features as I have a becker AR6201 in the instrument panel, and a classic winter altimeter.
If I was designing a completly new panel for a (new) glider, the Air Avionic is very interesting as it saves space on the instrument panel.
But for now...not sure it's relevant..
Any thoughts ?
Feedback on any of these solutions ?
RegardsI've been using the VT-01/UC (former Garrecht) since 2007. Critical points of the VT-01 are the air pressure sensor and the PA stage. The latter is sensitive to antenna miss adjustment. Furthermore a reliable and user friendly transponder.
Ludovic
The VT01 is only ADS-B SIL0, no integrity checking on the GPS source - that means most ATC and TCAS will not see your ADS-B transmissions, only your Mode S. This may not be permissible in your region, or may not be permissible in the future if it stillis.
The VT01 is a lot cheaper than any SIL>0 setup though...
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC+10, Eric wrote:
Op vrijdag 22 april 2022 om 09:19:22 UTC+2 schreef Ludovic:
Hi
I'm considering installing a transponder in my glider, but I'm not 100% sure, which setup I'll be going for.
It'll be installed in a DG-808B
My options are:
1) Trig T21
https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/
2) Air Avionic
Air control Display
VT-01 XPDR module.
The Trig seems to be drawing slightly less power.
The air control display could potentially also drive the radio and provide additional altimeter...but I don't really need these features as I have a becker AR6201 in the instrument panel, and a classic winter altimeter.
If I was designing a completly new panel for a (new) glider, the Air Avionic is very interesting as it saves space on the instrument panel.
But for now...not sure it's relevant..
Any thoughts ?
Feedback on any of these solutions ?
RegardsI've been using the VT-01/UC (former Garrecht) since 2007. Critical points of the VT-01 are the air pressure sensor and the PA stage. The latter is sensitive to antenna miss adjustment. Furthermore a reliable and user friendly transponder.
Ludovic
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 6:23:17 AM UTC-7, Matthew Scutter wrote:still is.
The VT01 is only ADS-B SIL0, no integrity checking on the GPS source - that means most ATC and TCAS will not see your ADS-B transmissions, only your Mode S. This may not be permissible in your region, or may not be permissible in the future if it
even be used to meet the 2020 mandate by light-sport, experimental and homebuilt types in the U.S.The VT01 is a lot cheaper than any SIL>0 setup though...
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC+10, Eric wrote:
Op vrijdag 22 april 2022 om 09:19:22 UTC+2 schreef Ludovic:
Hi
I'm considering installing a transponder in my glider, but I'm not 100% sure, which setup I'll be going for.
It'll be installed in a DG-808B
My options are:
1) Trig T21
https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/
2) Air Avionic
Air control Display
VT-01 XPDR module.
The Trig seems to be drawing slightly less power.
The air control display could potentially also drive the radio and provide additional altimeter...but I don't really need these features as I have a becker AR6201 in the instrument panel, and a classic winter altimeter.
If I was designing a completly new panel for a (new) glider, the Air Avionic is very interesting as it saves space on the instrument panel.
But for now...not sure it's relevant..
Any thoughts ?
Feedback on any of these solutions ?
If you want ADS-B compatibility, which is a must for flying in, or over, class B, C, and D airspace, then the TT-22 (not the TT-21) is the way to go (https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/):RegardsI've been using the VT-01/UC (former Garrecht) since 2007. Critical points of the VT-01 are the air pressure sensor and the PA stage. The latter is sensitive to antenna miss adjustment. Furthermore a reliable and user friendly transponder.
Ludovic
"ADS-B enhances safety and visibility – your investment in a TT22 transponder is future proof. Trig has a matching certified GPS position source that is highly affordable called the TN72. This is ideal for ADS-B voluntary equipage and the TN72 can
Our TN70 GPS position source is suitable for certified Part 23 aircraft that need a TSO-C145 position source, for operations in 2020 rule ADS-B airspace using a TT22 transponder."
It is not economical to upgrade a TT-21 to a TT-22, so make up your mind at the start (I have had both and currently have the TT-21 and TN72 in my ASH31Mi).
Tom
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 9:07:59 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote:still is.
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 6:23:17 AM UTC-7, Matthew Scutter wrote:
The VT01 is only ADS-B SIL0, no integrity checking on the GPS source - that means most ATC and TCAS will not see your ADS-B transmissions, only your Mode S. This may not be permissible in your region, or may not be permissible in the future if it
even be used to meet the 2020 mandate by light-sport, experimental and homebuilt types in the U.S.The VT01 is a lot cheaper than any SIL>0 setup though...
On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC+10, Eric wrote:
Op vrijdag 22 april 2022 om 09:19:22 UTC+2 schreef Ludovic:
Hi
I'm considering installing a transponder in my glider, but I'm not 100% sure, which setup I'll be going for.
It'll be installed in a DG-808B
My options are:
1) Trig T21 https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/
2) Air Avionic
Air control Display
VT-01 XPDR module.
The Trig seems to be drawing slightly less power.
The air control display could potentially also drive the radio and provide additional altimeter...but I don't really need these features as I have a becker AR6201 in the instrument panel, and a classic winter altimeter.
If I was designing a completly new panel for a (new) glider, the Air Avionic is very interesting as it saves space on the instrument panel.
But for now...not sure it's relevant..
Any thoughts ?
Feedback on any of these solutions ?
If you want ADS-B compatibility, which is a must for flying in, or over, class B, C, and D airspace, then the TT-22 (not the TT-21) is the way to go (https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/compact-transponder/):RegardsI've been using the VT-01/UC (former Garrecht) since 2007. Critical points of the VT-01 are the air pressure sensor and the PA stage. The latter is sensitive to antenna miss adjustment. Furthermore a reliable and user friendly transponder.
Ludovic
"ADS-B enhances safety and visibility – your investment in a TT22 transponder is future proof. Trig has a matching certified GPS position source that is highly affordable called the TN72. This is ideal for ADS-B voluntary equipage and the TN72 can
Our TN70 GPS position source is suitable for certified Part 23 aircraft that need a TSO-C145 position source, for operations in 2020 rule ADS-B airspace using a TT22 transponder."
It is not economical to upgrade a TT-21 to a TT-22, so make up your mind at the start (I have had both and currently have the TT-21 and TN72 in my ASH31Mi).
TomADS-B Out is not required in a glider (or any other aircraft) in Class D Airspace
For my 2 cents it is not where it is required. It is where you want to be seen!!!!
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
Thanks for the information.
I think I'll be going towards a Trig TT22.
Regards
Ludovic
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