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    From jp@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 12:06:05 2023
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.

    I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.

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  • From Sarah Anderson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 15:26:44 2023
    Hmm.. I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email address did nothing.
    It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.

    I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous email like google gmail and the like.)
    Worked fine.

    Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
    It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
    (The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email address and probably shouldn't be.)


    On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.

    I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.


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  • From Moshe Braner@21:1/5 to Sarah Anderson on Mon Nov 6 18:04:08 2023
    On 11/6/2023 4:26 PM, Sarah Anderson wrote:
    Hmm..  I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email
    address did nothing.
    It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.

    I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous
    email like google gmail and the like.)
    Worked fine.

    Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
    It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for
    "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
    (The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email
    address and probably shouldn't be.)


    On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an
    email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful
    things.

    I'll just stay with Safari.  It is working even though all the junk
    stuff is anoying.



    I thought the email address you register with also appears as the "From" address when you post to the newsgroup (as I am doing here)? I
    registered with my gmail address, but set up Thunderbird to use the outgoing-email (SMTP) server of my "real" email address which is not on
    gmail. As it turns out, if I try and send a private reply to somebody
    here on RAS, and if that person's e-address is on gmail, then my email
    service SMTP server refuses to send it, since they can tell that my
    "From" address does not belong to that service. Only for gmail
    destinations, claiming gmail is what's refusing this "unverified" email.
    Strange. Even stranger, the "cannot send this" auto-reply ends up at
    my gmail address!

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to Moshe Braner on Tue Nov 7 10:19:35 2023
    I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it annoying
    to read threads. It used to display all replies in cascade fashion but
    I can't seem to make it look that way any more. A double click on a
    thread opens all replies simultaneously which then requires deleting the replies individually.

    I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"... Wonder if I
    can back out these "upgrades".

    Dan
    5J

    On 11/6/23 16:04, Moshe Braner wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 4:26 PM, Sarah Anderson wrote:
    Hmm..  I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email
    address did nothing.
    It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.

    I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous
    email like google gmail and the like.)
    Worked fine.

    Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
    It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for
    "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
    (The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email
    address and probably shouldn't be.)


    On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an
    email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful
    things.

    I'll just stay with Safari.  It is working even though all the junk
    stuff is anoying.



    I thought the email address you register with also appears as the "From" address when you post to the newsgroup (as I am doing here)?  I
    registered with my gmail address, but set up Thunderbird to use the outgoing-email (SMTP) server of my "real" email address which is not on gmail.  As it turns out, if I try and send a private reply to somebody
    here on RAS, and if that person's e-address is on gmail, then my email service SMTP server refuses to send it, since they can tell that my
    "From" address does not belong to that service.  Only for gmail destinations, claiming gmail is what's refusing this "unverified" email.
     Strange.  Even stranger, the "cannot send this" auto-reply ends up at
    my gmail address!


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  • From Sarah Anderson@21:1/5 to Dan Marotta on Tue Nov 7 16:38:41 2023
    You mean that funny "tree" button doesn't work for you?

    https://imgur.com/a/hQCuCv8


    On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
    I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it annoying to read threads.  It used to display all replies in cascade
    fashion but I can't seem to make it look that way any more.  A double click on a thread opens all replies simultaneously which then
    requires deleting the replies individually.

    I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"...  Wonder if I can back out these "upgrades".

    Dan
    5J

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  • From Dan Marotta@21:1/5 to Sarah Anderson on Tue Nov 7 16:45:18 2023
    Wow! After clicking the funny tree button (which I hadn't noticed
    before) I got five separate pop up messages, one for each branch of the
    thread. There was no "Reply" button so I had to right click on the
    message and select "Follow up to Newsgroup" to reply.

    What a crock...

    Dan
    5J

    On 11/7/23 15:38, Sarah Anderson wrote:
    You mean that funny "tree" button doesn't work for you?

    https://imgur.com/a/hQCuCv8


    On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
    I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it
    annoying to read threads.  It used to display all replies in cascade
    fashion but I can't seem to make it look that way any more.  A double
    click on a thread opens all replies simultaneously which then requires
    deleting the replies individually.

    I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"...  Wonder if
    I can back out these "upgrades".

    Dan
    5J

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  • From Mark628CA@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 9 08:39:36 2023
    I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed".

    If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.

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  • From Steve Leonard@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 9 08:37:26 2023
    On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

    I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"... Wonder if
    I can back out these "upgrades".

    Dan
    5J

    Dan, you are slowly being dragged into the world of only viewing as if you were viewing in Google Groups!

    Steve Leonard

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  • From Eric G@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 9 15:51:53 2023
    On 11/3/2023 12:06 PM, jp wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.

    I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.

    I was able to set up Thunderbird with the RAS newsgroup in about 10 minutes, using this
    "recipe":

    https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

    Eric G

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  • From jp@21:1/5 to Eric G on Thu Nov 9 20:43:15 2023
    On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 3:51:59 PM UTC-8, Eric G wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 12:06 PM, jp wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

    I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.

    I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.

    I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.

    I was able to set up Thunderbird with the RAS newsgroup in about 10 minutes, using this
    "recipe":

    https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

    Eric G
    Thank you to all. I've finally got the Thunderbird / eternal-september setup working.

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