• True or Disinformation? 9 Russian aircraft shot down in one day.

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 7 08:44:50 2022
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    (Think this is true? or disinformation?
    Ukraine claims to have shot down 44 planes and 48 helicopters - as
    well as blowing up 285 tanks, 985 armoured cars and 60 fuel tankers.
    Ukraine today claimed it has now killed 11,000 Russian troops.
    Go to the below citation to see pictures and maps.)

    from https://www.the-sun.com/news/4833363/russian-pilots-plead-following-orders-ukraine/?rec_article=true

    CRASH & BURN Russian pilots plead they were ‘following orders’
    after being captured as NINE aircraft shot down over Ukraine

    Henry Holloway
    4:51 ET, Mar 6 2022Updated: 6:49 ET, Mar 6 2022
    RUSSIAN pilots were filmed pleading they were "following orders" as they
    were captured after nine aircraft were shot down in one day over Ukraine.

    Pictures show the burning wrecks of Russian aircraft and the terrified
    faces out Putin's pilots as they were detained by soldiers and civilians
    after ejecting from their planes.

    Wreckage of a Russian Su-30 which crashed down into a field in Ukraine
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    Wreckage of a Russian Su-30 which crashed down into a field in Ukraine
    The pilot identifies himself as Commander Alexey Sergeevich
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    The pilot identifies himself as Commander Alexey Sergeevich
    Another pilot was pictured being led away by Ukrainian soldiers
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    Another pilot was pictured being led away by Ukrainian soldiers
    The pilot said he was 'not told anything' about his mission to Ukraine
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    The pilot said he was 'not told anything' about his mission to Ukraine
    Footage shared online saw the airmen tied up with their hands behind
    their backs - some bloody after their desperate escapes.

    It came as Ukraine today claimed it has now killed 11,000 Russian troops
    since Putin invaded two weeks ago.

    With 11 days have passed since the initial attack, that means that Putin
    has lost approximate 1,000 men every single day.

    And Russian airstrikes are believed to have killed hundreds - maybe
    thousands - of civilians across Ukraine.

    Video taken of two airmen in the back of a truck shows them being
    interrogated, with their captors raging: "You are killing our people,
    you b*****d".

    Mum, son & girl, 8, killed as merciless Russians shell fleeing families COLD-BLOODED MURDER Mum, son & girl, 8, killed as merciless Russians
    shell fleeing families

    The pilot pleads he was just "ordered to fly" - and claims he was on a
    rescue mission.

    And another video shows a Russian pilot with blood on his shirt saying
    he was "not told anything" about his mission.

    "Were you blind?" one man rages, with the troops claiming they had maps
    from his plane showing bombing runs.

    🔵 Read our Russia - Ukraine live blog for the very latest updates

    His captors then say to him "you were going to bomb civilians" and
    question him "how many bombing flights did you perform?".

    Russia has seen its invasion met with staunch resistance and also has
    been blighted by embarrassing logistical failures and supply problems.

    And despite having one of the largest air force's in the world, Putin's
    planes seem incapable of securing air superiority over Ukraine.

    It comes as:

    Boris Johnson is to present a six-point plan of action to world leaders
    on how to deal with Putin
    Ukraine claims it has now killed 11,000 Russian soldiers as yesterday
    nine of Putin's aircraft were shot down
    Putin issued a direct threat to the UK as he raged at sanctions "akin to
    a declaration of war"
    SAS and US commandos are reportedly training for a rescue mission to
    save President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
    Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia dealing Putin another
    major blow
    Cancer-stricken kids are trapped in war-torn Ukraine - as doctors tell
    them the bombs are just fireworks
    Heartbreaking pictures show the extent of Ukraine's refugee crisis -
    with 1.5million fleeing for their lives
    British firms helping Putin's henchmen must face the full force of the
    law, said David Davis MP

    Ukraine claims to have shot down 44 planes and 48 helicopters - as well
    as blowing up 285 tanks, 985 armoured cars and 60 fuel tankers.

    Yesterday saw one of the most striking videos of the war released as a
    Russian "Hind" helicopter was blasted out of the sky by a stinger missile.

    Investigative journalism group Bellingcat geolocated the footage to
    Kozarovychi in the Kyiv Oblast - around 25 miles from the capital.

    Users on social media suggest the helicopter could be a Mil Mi-24 Hind
    gunship, which was in use by Soviet forces from 1972 and dubbed the
    "flying tank".

    It was the beginning of a flurry of losses for the Russians - with
    reports of five warplanes and choppers being shot down.

    Two MI-8 and two MI-35 helicopters are believed to have been downed,
    along with warplanes including two Su-34s, two Su-25s and one Su-30SM.

    Separate clips show Ukrainians cheering and applauding as they appear to
    shoot down two Russian aircraft in the Chernihiv and Mykolaiv oblasts.

    The clip from Chernihiv, in northern Ukraine, shows two pilots
    parachuting out.

    One died, while the other survived, it's claimed.

    The surviving soldier is seen in a blood-stained t-shirt with a bandage
    wrapped around his head.

    The soldiers get their captive to say "glory to Ukraine" before asking:
    "Why are you bombing people?"

    It's believed his aircraft was a Sukhoi Su-34 - a fighter-bomber which
    had also been used in Syria.

    In a separate film, a captured pilot in an orange jumpsuit is seen
    bloodied and on his knees as he's questioned by Ukrainian fighters in
    Mykolaiv.

    A jet was also reportedly shot down in Chernihiv - with one pilot killed
    and a second captured
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    A jet was also reportedly shot down in Chernihiv - with one pilot killed
    and a second capturedCredit: Getty
    The burning wreckage of a Russian plane in a field outside Volnovakha in
    the Donetsk region
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    The burning wreckage of a Russian plane in a field outside Volnovakha in
    the Donetsk regionCredit: Reuters
    A Russian fighter plane was also shot down over Chernihiv
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    A Russian fighter plane was also shot down over Chernihiv

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    Tinpot tyrant Putin has faced a punishing battle at the hands of the Ukrainians.

    Ministry of Defence officials this morning said the "scale and strength"
    of the resistance continues to surprise Russia.

    And it warned that Putin be deliberately targeting populated areas to
    break the morale of Kyiv - comparing it to campaigns in Chechnya and Syria.

    Meanwhile, the US is working with Poland on the possibility of supplying warplanes for Ukraine's fightback, a White House spokesperson has confirmed.

    Ukrainian pilots currently train on Russian-made jets.

    President Joe Biden is considering finding replacements for any fighter
    jets Poland might send from its fleet to Ukraine, the spokesperson said.

    But Putin has raged that Western sanctions against his regime are like a "declaration of war".

    And he also warned that anyone who attempts to enforce a no fly zone
    over Ukraine will be considered to have entered the conflict.

    Russia also issued a direct threat to Britain tonight saying it "will
    not forget" support for Ukraine and warning of "tough retaliation".

    It comes after a week of vicious bloodshed that has seen thousands of
    civilians butchered at the hands of Putin's forces.

    Yesterday morning a brief ceasefire was declared in the strategic port
    of Mariupol in the southeast and the eastern town of Volnovakha.

    Pictures show another two airmen tied up and blind folded
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    Pictures show another two airmen tied up and blind folded
    The pilot insists he was just 'ordered to fly' as he is questioned in
    the back of a truck
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    The pilot insists he was just 'ordered to fly' as he is questioned in
    the back of a truck
    The pilot was reportedly found with bombing maps showing his attack runs
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    The pilot was reportedly found with bombing maps showing his attack runs Russian forces promised to let civilians leave - but were just over an
    hour later accused of breaching the agreement.

    The ceasefire was reported to have resumed this morning - but its
    unclear how long it will last.

    Putin's invasion has drawn condemnation and severe sanctions from
    Western nations balancing punishment of the Kremlin with fears of a
    hazardous escalation.

    Moscow has seized two key cities in its 10-day-long invasion, Berdiansk
    and Kherson on Ukraine's southern coast along the Black Sea.

    Peace talks are expected to continue - but Ukraine remains defiant as
    civilians prepare to fight back amid Russia's grinding advance.

    Mariupol has been one of the most brutalised cities of war as the
    Russian have blockaded it and cut off food, water, heating and transport.

    It has been compared to the Nazi blockade of Leningrad in World War 2.

    And according to civilians fleeing Volnovakha - the other city granted a
    brief moment of peace in the ceasefire - the city has almost been
    totally destroyed.


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    Putin is believed to have thought he could roll over Ukraine within just
    48 hours - and his forces thought they would be met as heroes.

    But instead, they have found themselves bogged down against a staunch resistance.

    Putin is also becoming increasingly isolated in the world as Russia
    feels the crushing weight of Western sanctions.

    Moscow however is believed to be growing frustrated - and it is feared
    Putin could resort to ever more brutal tactics as the war drags on.

    Kyiv is believed to remain the prime objective for the Russians.

    And a massive convoy of armoured vehicles has been lurking nearby
    apparently preparing for a protracted siege.

    However, mystery surrounds the so-called "Convoy of Death" as it hasn't
    made any significant progress for days.

    Russian forces are believed to be being increasingly demoralised, with
    captured troops seen crying for their mums.

    Ukraine despite its defiance is facing a humanitarian crisis with more
    than one million refugees fleeing the devastating war.

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