• A Quora - Arthur Harris address

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 6 08:18:24 2021
    XPost: soc.history.war.misc

    Profile photo for James Flack
    James Flack

    What leaders had a great ability to see problems before they came?

    This short address was made in mid 1942, by a senior officer of the RAF,
    Arthur Harris

    The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they
    were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put
    that rather naive theory into operation.

    They sowed the wind and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
    Cologne, Lubeck, Rostock—Those are only just the beginning. We cannot
    send a thousand bombers a time over Germany every time, as yet.

    But the time will come when we can do so. Let the Nazis take good note
    of the western horizon. There they will see a cloud as yet no bigger
    than a man’s hand. But behind that cloud lies the whole massive power of
    the United States of America.

    When the storm bursts over Germany, they will look back to the days of
    Lubeck and Rostock and Cologne as a man caught in the blasts of a
    hurricane will look back to the gentle zephyrs of last summer. It may
    take a year. It may take two.

    But for the Nazis, the writing is on the wall. Let them look out for themselves. The cure is in their own hands. There are a lot of people
    who say that bombing can never win a war. Well, my answer to that is
    that it has never been tried yet, and we shall see.

    Germany, clinging more and more desperately to her widespread conquests
    and even seeking foolishly for more, will make a most interesting
    initial experiment.

    Japan will provide the confirmation.

    This was before the Manhattan project had even been started, and it
    truely foresees the power of strategic bombing, nuclear weapons and the
    cold war.

    comments include:

    Jagjeet Singh
    September 27
    Carpet bombing, indiscriminate dropping of bombs only strengthened their resolve to fight and caused minimal damage to infrastructure or any
    other thing which may have mattered.

    Dominic Johnson
    September 28
    The Blitz very nearly broke the UK, the Propaganda says otherwise, but
    the Government didn't seize control of newspapers for nothing.
    Germany executed 30,000 civllians for “defeatism”, IE complaining about
    the bombings

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 6 12:43:57 2021
    XPost: soc.history.war.misc

    "a425couple" wrote in message news:07j7J.35089$oY4.16943@fx20.iad...

    Profile photo for James Flack
    James Flack

    What leaders had a great ability to see problems before they came?

    This short address was made in mid 1942, by a senior officer of the RAF,
    Arthur Harris
    ...
    ------------------

    The Douhet school of air power had many followers whose claims sometimes predicted and sometimes exceeded reality, and Britain never achieved the
    long range fighter escort to ensure that The Bomber Will Always Get Through.
    I have Seversky's book that predicts we would reach or exceed B-2
    capabilities in the 1940's. Billy Mitchell greatly inflated the actual ship bombing accuracy of the B-17. https://www.amazon.com/Victory-Through-Power-Alexander-Seversky/dp/B002KDACK8

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 08:03:36 2021
    XPost: soc.history.war.misc

    "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:sjkjp4$hj0$1@dont-email.me...
    ............ https://www.amazon.com/Victory-Through-Power-Alexander-Seversky/dp/B002KDACK8

    -----------------------

    If you've been involved in the complexities of military R&D and procurement that book sheds some light on the situation of the late 1930's when the Depression and pacifism combined to squeeze military budgets to the
    subsistence level, leaving too little to explore the options that rapidly advancing technology might provide. Clinton's budget was similar, Midnight Basketball cost me project funding. Later he discovered the god-like power
    that advanced electronics could give him, increased spending, and misused it
    to blow up the African medicine factory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)

    1930's military planners were limited to supporting only their best guesses, which were based on insufficient information and sometimes overly optimistic claims and untested theories, and they couldn't realistically estimate
    whether or not the manufacturers would solve the many issues that delayed
    new designs. For example Seversky offered the P-47 in 1937, before its
    R-2800 engine had been proven reliable. Instead he was allowed to produce
    the P-43 which proved to be an inferior fighter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_P-43_Lancer
    We remember only those who got it right amidst a thicket of less successful predictions.

    Often the breakthroughs depended on recognizing and hiring the right genius, such as Vladimir Pavlecka, Stanley Hooker, Kelly Johnson and Frank Walker.
    At that time engine development consisted of strengthening whatever broke during tests, the mathematical stress, vibration and fluid dynamics analysis tools that enabled optimal designs were only just appearing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Timoshenko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Pieter_Den_Hartog

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)