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Daniel Schwartz
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I lived in Israel for fourteen years (but still get lost in Jerusalem sometimes)22h
How would Israelis feel if the tables were turned and Palestinians
occupied Israeli territory and built military outposts and settlements
there?
“How would Israelis feel if the tables were turned and Palestinians
occupied Israeli territory and built military outposts and settlements there?”

By all means, let’s see the Palestinians do what the early Zionists did,
and buy land in order to claim ownership of it.

You see, when Zionists started coming in the 1880s, there was no
Palestinian land. None. Zero. There was Ottoman land… and some of it was
for sale. So people bought it. You’re allowed to do that.

There were some local Arab landowners. Some were willing to sell land,
others were not. Usually, though, the landowners were absentee, and
potential buyers had to track them down.

When the British captured the land in World War One from the crumbling
Ottoman Empire, the land was no longer Ottoman, but British. It was
still not Palestinian land. The British would, in fact, do a survey
after WWII, and find that the land was about 7% Jewish owned and about
8% Arab owned. The rest was State land, i.e. owned by the British.

When the British left in 1948, that State land was up for grabs. When
forces from seven Arab nations invaded the brand-new State of Israel, it
was understood by all that the land would be owned based on where the
fighting ended. So what Israel had, within the 1949 Armistice Lines, was Israel, period. It was not occupied Palestinian territory, it was Israel.

What about the West Bank? Well, that was annexed by Jordan. That was
apparently not Palestinian land, because in 1964, the Palestine
Liberation Organization’s charter explicitly said so. And what about the
Gaza Strip? That was controlled by Egypt, and the PLO Charter excluded
that too.

Then, in 1967, Israel captured the West Bank — from Jordan, not from the Palestinians. And Israel captured the Gaza Strip — from Egypt, not from
the Palestinians.

It was only after the 1967 war that the PLO Charter was amended. Now,
suddenly, we were told that these were Palestinian lands… and that they
had always been.

But they weren’t. They don’t become yours just because you say they are,
no matter how badly you say you want them.

Land becomes yours if you buy it… or if you have the world agree that
it’s yours,and ought to be yours… or if you successfully defend it in wartime. That’s how it works everywhere else in the world.

Ironically, Israel did all these things, and still has its legitimacy questioned. The Palestinians have done none of these things… and yet get
to claim that all of Israel is “Palestinian land”.

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Bob Hersch
· 20h
Ask Egypt to take back and control the Gaza and the Palestinians living
there. I’m sure they wouldn’t take that offer. Most Arab countries have been overjoyed to lose their Palestinian populations.

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Fabio Hasseck
· 18h
They were asked to take it back as part of the peace treaty and they did refuse. Same with the WB and Jourdan, they don’t want these places anymore.

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James Mather
· 20h
The biggest complaint from the Palestinians is that the West is
dehumanising them. Unfortunately, beheadings, rape, mass hostage-taking,
and live-streaming on TikTok and Telegram have caused immense damage to
the Palestinians and the entire Muslim world. The Palestinians had hoped
that Muslim Nations would join them in their fight against Israel;
however, they lost support due to behaviour resembling that of ISIS and
even neighbouring Egypt and Jordan are not opening their borders to them.

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Keith
· 10h
Oh I dunno…. I think if the rest of the Arab world thought they had any chance of success they would instantly mobilize against Israel yet
again. I don't really believe they are outraged by the Palestinians
barbarism, it's par for the Islamic course, no?

However that ship has long sailed and Israel is the strongest power in
the region by order of magnitudes.

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Mohan Singh
· 10h
Mohamdans are doing this for last 1400 years but now internet made it
possible to know the truth. Check what Islamic prophet himself did to
war captives and you’ll understand why all Mohamdans are doing this.


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Justathought
· 3h
Lost support in Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt…past bad behavior. Going in, disrupting and trying to take over other countries is rather ofputting

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Joshua A
· 3h
Do inhumane things, get dehumanized.

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Mario Segal
· 22h
And when Gaza was given to them with autonomy restrictions true - they
failed to build a functioning peaceful state

the settlements in the West Bank are an issue imho and I am 100% pro
Israel -

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Lee Heller
· 21h
I agree with you on both being pro-Israel and on the settlement issue,
but due to the constant Arab created conflicts against Israel,
settlements become a buffer zone to protect the majority.

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Betty Daaf
· 20h
But if the area annexed by Jordan is Palestinian, what do you say of
areas that Jews were evicted from in 1948 by Jordan?

Mario Segal
· 19h
Not only in Jordan all over the Arab world- but a solution imho will
require no or less settlements -

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Sandra Singh
· 20h
I wish all those “free Palestine” protestors would look up the history before shouting out about occupied & stolen land!

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Karina Killey
· 7h
They don’t though do they. They accept that what they read and hear on
social media sites must be true. Free Palestine-what Palestine? There
was never a Palestine, only an area of Judah that Romans named
Syria-Palestine as a snub to the Jews following a 2nd revolt by them in
135CE and they were evicted from Jerusalem. The temple was destroyed and
to add insult to injury, Romans built their own temple on the ruins. You can’t pick and choose the bits of history to suit your personal
narrative, though very many do.


James Hill
· 17h
Gaza and the West Bank AKA Judea and Samaria are Israeli lands being
occupied by so called Palestinians even though their is no and never has
been a Palestinian State.

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Thutch
· 7h
Thank you for clarifying this apparently complicated land question.
Perhaps if Palestinians concentrated on building a country instead of destroying one their lives would be better. That, however, would require jettisoning the role of victim.

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Justathought
· 2h
Exactly

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Wm Rogers
· 10m
It would also necessitate recognising the State of Israel, & the Jews'
right to live in peace in their ancestral homeland of thousands of years standing ie Israel. See what the Qur'an says on the topic. Why would any
Muslim have a problem with it?

Yal S
· 20h
I completely agree with what you’ve said - Israel has legitimate claims
to all of the land it claimed through purchases and war. However, I’d
like to know why Israel captured the West Bank from Jordan and Gaza from
Egypt in 1967.

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Scott Steward
· 15h
Because those were the areas from which the Arabs staged their forces to
invade in the 1967 war. Also the Golan Heights and the Sinai.

By any measure, Israel is entitled to keep those lands. As you say, they offered the WB back to Jordan who refused it, and Gaza to the Egyptians
who refused it. So, Israeli without contest.

Egypt accepted the return of the Sinai in return for peace, and has
honored that deal. Gaza was given to “Palestinians” in return for peace, but the “Palestinians” immediately broke the deal and turned Gaza into a terrorist camp from which they have waged 17 years of terrorist attacks
against Israeli civilians.

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