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    L. Thomas Rouse
    Former Senior Chief Electronics Warfare Technician at United States Navy (USN)Updated 1y

    Did the Japanese forces suffer such horrific losses in the WWII
    “Marianas Turkey Shoot” air encounter due mainly to the American
    aircraft carriers advantage of being equipped with radar?
    The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot was the unofficial name the press gave
    to the aerial phase of the Battle of the Phillippine Sea. The name comes
    from a remark given during debriefing by a USS Lexington pilot, which
    found its way into a Navy press release. Once the press got hold of it,
    the description was ensconced in history.

    By mid-1944, several factors had come together to seal the fate of
    Japanese air power in the Pacific. American carrier strength had fully recovered and far exceeded what it had been in 1942 - 43 as the Essex
    Class fleet carriers, bolstered by dozens of light, and escort carriers,
    became available. These ships were manned by highly trained crews and a
    flood of pilots from a training pipeline that had hit maximum efficiency.


    A key factor in creating that pipeline was the US policy of removing experienced pilots from combat and rotating them into training roles, so
    new pilots benefitted from their experience. This contrasts with the
    Japanese policy of keeping pilots in combat until they were killed or
    too severely injured to fly. The result was the American Air Forces grew stronger as the war went on, while the Japanese grew progressively
    weaker. To compensate for these shortcomings, the Japanese rushed pilots through training. They were often posted to frontline units with half
    the flight hours of their American opponents.

    The American mass production method of pilot training was coupled with a logistics system unlike anything seen before. By 1944, American forces
    in the Pacific went into battle with not just a sufficiency of supplies
    but an embarrassment of plenty.


    The hub of this logistics system was the world’s largest naval facility
    at Ulithi Atoll.


    It included everything from drydocks capable of servicing battleships to
    an ice cream plant that produced 1500 gallons of ice cream per day.

    At the same time, The much-ballyhooed Zero had become obsolete, and by
    1944, American pilots had been thoroughly trained in its weaknesses and
    the tactics to defeat it. At the same time, American forces had fully
    deployed the F6F Hellcat, a vast improvement over its predecessor, the
    F4F Wildcat.


    The Hellcat was the perfect fighter for the conditions of the Pacific
    War. It was not the fastest, it did not have the greatest range, nor was
    it the most maneuverable. It could take a lot of punishment and bring
    its pilot home, but most importantly, it was easy to build, easy to fly,
    and easy to maintain. The F4U Corsair enjoyed the post-war glamor, but
    the Hellcat shot down more airplanes.

    The American submarine campaign was also having its effect on the
    Japanese supply system. Chronic fuel shortages hampered training, and
    what fuel was available was often of low quality, reducing engine
    performance in combat. Spare parts were constantly in short supply, and
    many airplanes were grounded for lack of spares.

    The result was the Japanese fought the battle with out-of-date
    airplanes, manned by under-trained and inexperienced pilots while
    outnumbered by a force equipped with the latest technology manned by
    highly trained aircrews. The outcome was never in doubt.

    Radar was still relatively new in naval warfare but had developed
    rapidly during the war. Shipboard air search radar and air intercept
    controller procedures gave the US a significant advantage in protecting
    their ships from Japanese air attacks. Good radar and the tactics for
    using it meant that Combat Air Patrols could be vectored to incoming
    raids well before the attackers gained visual contact with their
    targets. The days of waiting for the enemy to appear on the horizon were
    over.

    Radar was an important factor in that it acted as a force multiplier.
    Instead of airplanes flying endless patrol patterns hoping to spot the
    enemy, radar could do the spotting and send the defending fighters to intercept. This meant fewer airplanes could patrol larger areas.

    Any hostile aircraft that made it past the Combat Air Patrol then had to
    run the gauntlet of the gun line, escorting destroyers, cruisers, and
    even battleships equipped with radar-controlled AA guns firing the new
    and still secret VT (Variable Time) fuzed shells.


    These shells contained a tiny radar unit that burst the shell when it
    passed near a target, exponentially increasing the likelihood of a kill.

    As important as technology was, in the end, the Japanese losses were
    caused by numerous failures of the Japanese government and military
    leadership.

    They did not plan for a long war. When their knockout punch at Pearl
    Harbor and threatening moves early in the war failed to bring on the
    decisive battle around which Japanese doctrine revolved, they had no
    Plan B. Their desire to force that decisive battle led directly to the
    ambush and defeat at Midway and began their decline.

    They failed to recognize trained military specialists such as pilots, technicians, and naval crewmen as the valuable assets that they were.
    Instead of preserving them for future battles and to train the next wave
    of recruits, they squandered them in fruitless suicidal attacks out of
    an overblown sense of honor.

    In the end, they set themselves on a course of steady decline against an
    enemy that had nearly unlimited reserves of strength. They never stood a chance.

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