• Information on the newsgroup "soc.history.war.world-war-ii"

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 16:28:40 2023
    XPost: aalt.war.world-war-two, sci.military.naval

    Did you all see, over at the newsgroup
    soc.history.war.misc
    the post with the Subject line:
    Moderator Vacancy Investigation: soc.history.war.world-war-ii ?
    I think it is possible some readers in the addressed newsgroups
    might like to know about this.
    I do not remember any posts from "Comrade Yum Yum", but it seems
    to me if this "Bixby" wants to moderate that old group,
    it is just fine with me.
    As I recall the group had pretty much lost vitality before
    the big problems happened.

    The message was:

    "This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
    the moderated newsgroup soc.history.war.world-war-ii is not functioning,
    and may have been abandoned by its moderator. This investigation will
    attempt to verify the reasons for non-function, and may result in the
    removal of the group or the selection and installation of a new
    moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from moderated to
    unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

    The Big-8 Management Board has been approached by "Bixby"
    <bixby@sctb.ch>, who has informed us that the moderation for soc.history.war.world-war-ii is not functioning. They have also informed
    us that they used to be a participant in the group, posting at the time
    under their earlier alias of "Comrade Yum Yum". Bixby has volunteered to
    take over moderation duties for the group, if no reason exists for them
    not to do so.

    Bixby has also communicated the following about their choice of alias:
    -----
    It is an alias, and the fact it is an alias should be known.

    Each major on-line project I am involved in has its own alias, as a
    way to maintain my personal privacy on-line.

    My identity is not a secret, and will be disclosed on request to any
    group member or the board, but when posting to systems which can be
    automatically scanned, an alias is prudent for privacy.

    (The origin is "Horace E. Bixby", the Mississippi boat pilot who
    taught Samuel Clemens.)
    -----

    Followups to this post have been set to news.groups.proposals, to ensure
    that any resulting discussion can be followed in one place.


    RATIONALE:

    Attempts to post to the group currently result in a bounce message from
    the ISC moderation relay.

    The most recent moderator, Stephen Graham, posted to the group on 7th
    June 2017 to report that the group's moderation platform, robomod.net,
    had suffered a catastrophic failure (Message-ID: <epqo2qFak6qU1 @mid.individual.net>). Robomod.net was never restored to service, and it appears that no alternative moderation system was ever put in place.
    Stephen Graham posted a followup on 26th October 2017 (Message-ID: <f5ee8gForl2U2@mid.individual.net>) to say "As you can tell, robomod.net
    has not been restored to service. At this point, I expect most former
    readers have found alternative fora."

    The group has been dormant since then, apart from a single post in 2019
    that may not have been officially approved.

    It therefore appears that no alternative moderation system was ever set
    up, and that the moderator abandoned the group at this point without
    appointing a successor.

    Sadly, we have discovered that Stephen Graham died soon afterwards, in
    2019. All of us thank Mr. Graham for generously volunteering his time as
    a group moderator, and extend our condolences to all who knew him.

    https://www.ece.uw.edu/spotlight/remembering-steve-graham/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190704082457/https://people.ece.uw.edu/gra ham_stephen/

    Because of this unfortunate news, it seems clear that a vacancy exists
    and that a new moderator could be appointed.

    The Big-8 Management Board is particularly keen to solicit input from
    former participants in soc.history.war.world-war-ii, as the Board
    members are unfamiliar with the community and are not well placed to
    judge whether a prospective moderator would be a good fit. To this end,
    this MVI has been crossposted to soc.history.war.misc and alt.war.world- war-two. These groups have recently been used by some of the people who previously posted in soc.history.war.world-war-ii, which will allow the remaining community to give their views on the appointment of a new
    moderator.


    NEWSGROUPS LINE:

    soc.history.war.world-war-ii History & events of World War Two
    (Moderated)


    HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

    soc.history.war.world-war-ii was proposed by Joel Furr
    <jfurr@acpub.duke.edu> in early 1994, along with soc.history.war.misc.

    soc.history.war.world-war-ii passed its vote 181:17 on 19 April 1994.


    CHARTER AND MODERATION POLICY OF SOC.HISTORY.WAR.WORLD-WAR-II:

    The charter of soc.history.war.world-war-ii: Discussion of the
    era 1939-1945 in particular, but ranging as far back as 1918 and
    as far forward as the 1950's for discussion of events leading to
    the War and post-war events such as the occupation of Japan and
    Germany. The discussion will be limited to social, political,
    military, economic, technological, demographic, and historial
    aspects of World War II, including discussion of:

    * Arms limitations treaties in the 1920's, intended to head
    off any future war
    * the Weimar Republic
    * the rise of the Italian Fascists
    * the Japanese war with China
    * the rise of the Nazi Party
    * American isolationism
    * Franco-British appeasement
    * Italian misadventures in Africa
    * German occupation of the Sudentenland and Austria
    * the war proper, 1939-1945
    * the Manhattan Project
    * the Holocaust
    * Post-war occupation of Japan and Germany
    * Post-war governments of Europe
    * and so on.

    In other words, the mandate for soc.history.war.world-war-ii is
    intended to be broad, rather than narrow, with moderation in
    place less to limit discussion than to keep out Gannon and the
    Holocaust Revisionists and other malicious posters. Should Dan
    Gannon or Serdar Argic submit articles which actually discuss
    World War Two rather than spreading their brand of conspiracy
    theory, their articles will be approved for submission as well.

    Moderation policy:
    ------------------

    Soc.history.war.world-war-ii will have a very relaxed moderation
    policy. The main purpose, as noted above, for moderation of this
    group is to prevent it from turning into a revisionist flamefest
    akin to misc.headlines or soc.history. As such, any message
    which actually discusses World War II will be approved for
    posting, provided that it does not attempt to claim that events
    such as the Holocaust never happened. There are other groups for
    discussion of that question, most notably, alt.revisionism.

    Moderation rules:

    * Articles which discuss World War Two and its events will be
    approved for posting.

    * Articles arguing that the Holocaust never happened will not
    be approved for posting.

    * Articles must contain original thought. Lengthy quoting of
    source material with a couple of lines of comment at the end
    will not be approved for posting.

    * Blank messages, test messages, advertisements,
    MAKE.MONEY.FAST, and so forth, will not be approved for
    posting.

    * Articles which include excessive quoting (e.g. an article
    which quotes an entire other article in order to add a few
    comments at the end) will be trimmed down by the moderator in
    question.

    * An article MUST have a valid reply-to address or it will
    not be approved for posting.

    * Rejected articles will be shared with the other moderators
    for group consideration.

    As noted below, the group will be group-moderated, to minimize
    delay between submission and posting and to keep the group
    running when the traffic becomes heavy.

    Moderators will be added by majority vote of the existing
    moderators and moderators will be removed by 2/3 vote in the
    event that a moderator is shown to be failing to do the job (i.e.
    not posting anything).



    DISTRIBUTION:

    news.announce.newgroups
    news.groups.proposals
    soc.history.war.world-war-ii
    soc.history.war.misc
    alt.war.world-war-two


    PROPONENT:

    Bixby <bixby@sctb.ch>


    PROCEDURE:

    Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
    threads in that newsgroup.

    To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to news.groups.proposals.

    For more information on the MVI process, please see

    http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Moderator_Vacancy_Investigations


    CHANGE HISTORY:

    2023-09-28 Moderator Vacancy Investigation"

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 09:05:37 2023
    XPost: sci.military.naval

    "a425couple" wrote in message news:JymTM.285$rbid.140@fx18.iad...

    Did you all see, over at the newsgroup
    soc.history.war.misc

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    Didn't see it, my interest is history in general with a focus on the
    influence of technology and how decisions were made, which tends to be
    hidden until long afterwards, Ultra for example. I got into R.A.M. when I
    was working as a civilian for the Air Force, but couldn't discuss
    developments later than WW2 though I kept up with AvWeek.

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