• How Marines could prevent Iranian harassment of commercial ships

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    How Marines could prevent Iranian harassment of commercial ships
    By Irene Loewenson
    Aug 16, 03:40 PM


    Marine 1st Lt. Jesse Comer, a field artillery officer, reports a contact
    of interest through radio communications aboard amphibious transport
    dock ship Somerset as the ship transits the Strait of Hormuz in 2021.
    (Staff Sgt. Kassie McDole/Marine Corps)

    Although it’s unclear exactly what Marines would do if placed on
    commercial ships traveling through the Strait of Hormuz, retired
    military leaders say they could deter Iranian forces from harassing or
    seizing the vessels — and quickly loop in the Navy if issues arise.

    More than 100 Marines already have gotten training from the Navy and are prepared to be put on commercial vessels transiting the strategically
    important passage ― which links the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman ―
    if ordered, the U.S. Naval Institute reported Friday, citing an
    anonymous U.S. official.

    The security teams are made up of between 15 Marines and 19 Marines,
    according to the U.S. Naval Institute. Training began before the Navy
    ships carrying them arrived in Bahrain on Aug. 6, the Institute reported.

    The teams could prevent Iranian forces from coming aboard the ships,
    retired Marine Lt. Gen. Dave Beydler said in a webinar Tuesday moderated
    by the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, a pro-Israel
    think tank.

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    By Diana Stancy Correll
    “You will not get on a commercial vessel that has a contingent of
    Marines on board,” said Beydler, the former commander of Marine Corps
    Forces Central Command.

    The Marines could protect against threatening close passes by other
    ships, Beydler said. They can fend off attacks with their counter-drone
    and counter-air capabilities. And with their communications
    capabilities, they could quickly alert the Navy if threats emerge from
    Iran, Beydler said.

    Retired Navy Adm. James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander of
    NATO, wrote in a Bloomberg op-ed Friday that the Marines’ “jam-proof communications” would be their most important asset.

    Stavridis noted that having U.S. Marines protect commercial vessels
    would mark a return to a historical role and a beginning as “a powerful fighting force on sailing ships, often protecting convoys of commercial craft.”

    Experts told the U.S. Naval Institute the potential peacetime deployment
    of Marines onto commercial ships would be unprecedented in modern history.

    The last known time the military put armed troops on commercial ships, according to the pro-restraint think tank the Quincy Institute for
    Responsible Statecraft, was World War II. To protect logistics from
    attack, service members from the Navy’s Armed Guard operated the guns
    aboard merchant vessels.

    The Defense Department declined to confirm or deny plans to place
    Marines on commercial ships.

    In response to a query, a spokesman for the Marine Corps directed Marine
    Corps Times to query U.S. Central Command.

    “CENTCOM remains committed to supporting our partners and collective
    efforts to protect the freedom of maritime navigation and the free flow
    of commerce throughout the region,” U.S. Central Command said in a
    Tuesday emailed statement to Marine Corps Times. “We do not discuss future/on-going operations.”

    The DoD has, however, made clear that the recent Middle East deployment
    of approximately 3,000 Marines and sailors on the amphibious assault
    ship Bataan and dock landing ship Carter Hall was meant to prevent Iran
    from meddling with commercial shipping.

    The Marines who would go on commercial vessels are part of the special-operations-capable 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which is
    spread across those ships plus the amphibious landing dock Mesa Verde,
    the U.S. Naval Institute reported.

    The possible deployment of armed U.S. troops onto commercial ships,
    first reported by The Associated Press, comes after a spate of Iranian interference with ships in the Strait of Hormuz.

    On July 5, the Iranian navy attempted to seize two oil tankers moving
    through the strait and fired shots at one of them, the U.S. Navy said.

    The U.S. Navy says Iran has seized at least five commercial vessels in
    the past two years and has harassed more than a dozen others. Many of
    the incidents have occurred in and around the Strait of Hormuz, the
    narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which 20% of all crude oil passes.

    “Achieving deterrence is one of those mission outcomes that’s tough to define at times,” Beydler said. “How do you know that you’re being successful in deterring big events, small events and so forth?”

    Beydler noted that placing Marines on the ships could bring a potential
    for escalation.

    “It’s a region that’s fraught with potential miscalculation,” retired Navy Vice Adm. Mark Fox, former deputy commander of U.S. Central
    Command, said in the webinar Tuesday.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    About Irene Loewenson
    Irene Loewenson is a staff reporter for Marine Corps Times. She joined
    Military Times as an editorial fellow in August 2022. She is a graduate
    of Williams College, where she was the editor-in-chief of the student newspaper.

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    How Marines could prevent Iranian harassment of commercial ships
    By Irene Loewenson
    Wednesday, Aug 16


    Marine 1st Lt. Jesse Comer, a field artillery officer, reports a contact
    of interest through radio communications aboard amphibious transport
    dock ship Somerset as the ship transits the Strait of Hormuz in 2021.
    (Staff Sgt. Kassie McDole/Marine Corps)

    Although it’s unclear exactly what Marines would do if placed on
    commercial ships traveling through the Strait of Hormuz, retired
    military leaders say they could deter Iranian forces from harassing or
    seizing the vessels — and quickly loop in the Navy if issues arise.

    More than 100 Marines already have gotten training from the Navy and are prepared to be put on commercial vessels transiting the strategically
    important passage ― which links the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman ―
    if ordered, the U.S. Naval Institute reported Friday, citing an
    anonymous U.S. official.

    The security teams are made up of between 15 Marines and 19 Marines,
    according to the U.S. Naval Institute. Training began before the Navy
    ships carrying them arrived in Bahrain on Aug. 6, the Institute reported.

    The teams could prevent Iranian forces from coming aboard the ships,
    retired Marine Lt. Gen. Dave Beydler said in a webinar Tuesday moderated
    by the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, a pro-Israel
    think tank.

    RELATED

    More Marines, sailors operating in Red Sea amid tensions with Iran
    The increased presence of sailors and Marines aims to de-escalate
    tensions caused by Iran’s harassment and seizures of merchant vessels.
    By Diana Stancy Correll
    “You will not get on a commercial vessel that has a contingent of
    Marines on board,” said Beydler, the former commander of Marine Corps
    Forces Central Command.

    The Marines could protect against threatening close passes by other
    ships, Beydler said. They can fend off attacks with their counter-drone
    and counter-air capabilities. And with their communications
    capabilities, they could quickly alert the Navy if threats emerge from
    Iran, Beydler said.

    Retired Navy Adm. James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander of
    NATO, wrote in a Bloomberg op-ed Friday that the Marines’ “jam-proof communications” would be their most important asset.

    Stavridis noted that having U.S. Marines protect commercial vessels
    would mark a return to a historical role and a beginning as “a powerful fighting force on sailing ships, often protecting convoys of commercial craft.”

    In 2019, Marines embarked on a merchant vessel to provide security
    during a transit through the Strait of Hormuz, according to a Central
    Command news release at the time.

    The military also put armed troops on commercial ships in World War II.
    To protect logistics from attack, service members from the Navy’s Armed
    Guard operated the guns aboard merchant vessels.

    The Defense Department declined to confirm or deny plans to place
    Marines on commercial ships.

    In response to a query, a spokesman for the Marine Corps directed Marine
    Corps Times to query U.S. Central Command.

    “CENTCOM remains committed to supporting our partners and collective
    efforts to protect the freedom of maritime navigation and the free flow
    of commerce throughout the region,” U.S. Central Command said in a
    Tuesday emailed statement to Marine Corps Times. “We do not discuss future/on-going operations.”

    The DoD has, however, made clear that the recent Middle East deployment
    of approximately 3,000 Marines and sailors on the amphibious assault
    ship Bataan and dock landing ship Carter Hall was meant to prevent Iran
    from meddling with commercial shipping.

    The Marines who would go on commercial vessels are part of the special-operations-capable 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which is
    spread across those ships plus the amphibious landing dock Mesa Verde,
    the U.S. Naval Institute reported.

    The possible deployment of armed U.S. troops onto commercial ships,
    first reported by The Associated Press, comes after a spate of Iranian interference with ships in the Strait of Hormuz.

    On July 5, the Iranian navy attempted to seize two oil tankers moving
    through the strait and fired shots at one of them, the U.S. Navy said.

    The U.S. Navy says Iran has seized at least five commercial vessels in
    the past two years and has harassed more than a dozen others. Many of
    the incidents have occurred in and around the Strait of Hormuz, the
    narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which 20% of all crude oil passes.

    “Achieving deterrence is one of those mission outcomes that’s tough to define at times,” Beydler said. “How do you know that you’re being successful in deterring big events, small events and so forth?”

    Beydler noted that placing Marines on the ships could bring a potential
    for escalation.

    “It’s a region that’s fraught with potential miscalculation,” retired Navy Vice Adm. Mark Fox, former deputy commander of U.S. Central
    Command, said in the webinar Tuesday.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

    Editor’s note: This article was updated Monday with more accurate
    information about previous placements of troops on commercial ships.

    About Irene Loewenson
    Irene Loewenson is a staff reporter for Marine Corps Times. She joined
    Military Times as an editorial fellow in August 2022. She is a graduate
    of Williams College, where she was the editor-in-chief of the student newspaper.

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