• Meteorite left Earth then landed back down after round trip to space

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 09:34:00 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, alt.fan.heinlein

    This is only a partial story.
    But still, quite interesting idea.
    How fast did an object have to hit the earth,
    to blast earth into space?

    Was it Jules Verne that wrote a book about this,
    "Off on a Comet" ?

    yes,
    Off On A Comet: Verne, Jules: 9781481853538 - Amazon.com
    Amazon.com
    https://www.amazon.com › Off-Comet-Jules-Verne
    Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Off_on_a_Comet
    Off on a Comet (French: Hector Servadac) is an 1877 science fiction
    novel by French writer Jules Verne. It recounts the journey of several
    people carried ...

    from https://www.newscientist.com/article/2381928-meteorite-left-earth-then-landed-back-down-after-round-trip-to-space/

    Meteorite left Earth then landed back down after round trip to space
    Most of the meteorites found on Earth come from asteroids, but a few
    come from other bodies like Mars and the moon. Now, researchers say they
    have discovered a new kind - a rock originally from Earth that went to
    space then came back

    By Alex Wilkins

    11 July 2023

    The meteorite NWA 13188 seems to have travelled to space and back

    Albert Jambon

    A meteorite found in the Sahara desert in Morocco may have originated on
    Earth, before being blasted into space and returning from orbit
    thousands of years later. If confirmed, this boomerang space rock would
    be the first of its kind we know about.

    Almost all the meteorites we have found come from asteroids, but a tiny fraction are from planetary bodies, such as Mars and the moon. These
    come from violent impacts that launch debris into space before …

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 18:31:26 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, alt.fan.heinlein

    "a425couple" wrote in message news:ZBArM.340585$fNr5.118073@fx16.iad...

    This is only a partial story.
    But still, quite interesting idea.
    How fast did an object have to hit the earth,
    to blast earth into space?

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    The minimum velocity for a low Earth orbit is about 7.8 km/Sec. Above 11.2 km/Sec an object will escape Earth's gravity and orbit the Sun. The ratio between them is the square root of 2, a fairly small window. Meteors have arrived at as high as 70 km/Sec, so far. Otherwise everything depends on the fraction of energy transferred as velocity versus destroyed in fracturing,
    and velocity lost to air resistance which can be huge. Colliding billiard
    balls transfer energy efficiently but rocks shatter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_gun
    A serious complication is that an uncorrected orbit will try to pass back through its launch point. Rockets start vertical so they won't tip over and then curve into the direction of the orbit.

    In college Physics a homework problem was to calculate the return time of a weight dropped into an evacuated well that passed clear through an Earth of uniform density. The tricky part was finding a formula to integrate that compensated for depth. It turned out that if you are anywhere within a uniformly thick hollow shell its gravitational attractions in any pair of opposing directions cancel to zero, i.e. you float weightless. You are drawn toward only the mass in the sphere below you. They left that for us to
    discover mathematically. Also the return time equals the period of a low
    orbit.

    https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=46531.0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld

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