• ChatGPT on Mars: How AI can help scientists study the Red Planet

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    ChatGPT on Mars: How AI can help scientists study the Red Planet

    By Leonard David published 2 days ago
    "This is not trivial. It is not just a paper. It is about who we really
    want to become as a species."

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    Could robots on Mars be supercharged with AI to perform on-the-spot
    research, relaying their discoveries in real-time? (Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech)
    The world is abuzz, perhaps even befuddled, about the growing use of
    artificial intelligence. One of the most popular artificial intelligence
    (AI) tools available to the public today is ChatGPT, an AI-powered
    language model that has been "trained" and fed vast amounts of online information. After taking all that in, ChatGPT can regurgitate
    human-like text responses to a given prompt. It can respond to queries,
    discuss a lot of topics and crank out pieces of writing.

    It isn't difficult to imagine a robot wheeling and dealing on the
    surface of Mars, factory-wired with ChatGPT or a similar artificial intelligence language model. This smartbot could be loaded with a suite
    of science devices. It could analyze what its scientific instruments are finding "on-the-spot," perhaps even collating any evidence of past life
    it uncovers nearly instantly.

    That data could be digested, assessed, appraised and assembled in some scientific form. The product, in well-paginated condition, with
    footnotes to boot, could then be transmitted directly from the robot to
    a scientific journal, like Science or Nature, for publication. Of
    course, that paper would then be peer reviewed — maybe by AI/ChatGPT reviewers. Sound far-fetched?

    I reached out to several leading researchers, presenting this off-Earth, on-Mars scenario, with a variety of reactions in return.

    Related: Artificial intelligence could help hunt for life on Mars and
    other alien worlds

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    Prone to hallucination
    "It could be done but there could be misleading information," said
    Sercan Ozcan, Reader in Innovation and Technology Management at the
    University of Portsmouth in the United Kingdom. "ChatGPT is not 100%
    accurate and it is prone to 'hallucination.'"

    Ozcan said he's not sure if ChatGPT would be valuable if there is no
    prior volume of work for it to analyze and emulate. "I believe humans
    can still do better work than ChatGPT, even if it is slower," he said.

    His advice is to not use ChatGPT "in areas where we cannot accept any
    error."

    Humans in the loop
    Steve Ruff, associate research professor at Arizona State University's
    School of Earth and Space Exploration in Tempe, Arizona, is keenly tied
    to studying Mars.

    "My immediate reaction is that it's highly unlikely that 'on-the-spot' manuscripts would be a realistic scenario given how the process involves debates among the team over the observations and their interpretation,"
    Ruff said. "I'm skeptical that any AI, trained on existing observations,
    could be used to confidently interpret new observations without humans
    in the loop, especially with new instrument datasets that have not been available previously. Every such dataset requires painstaking efforts to
    sort out."

    For the near term, Ruff thinks AI could be used for rover operations,
    like picking targets to observe without humans in the loop, and for
    navigation.

    NASA's Ingenuity Mars helicopter, photographed by the agency's
    Perseverance rover on April 16, 2023. The rover captured this
    enhanced-color image using its Mastcam-Z instrument.

    NASA's Ingenuity Mars helicopter, photographed by the agency's
    Perseverance rover on April 16, 2023. Ingenuity has been used as a
    'scout' to help identify locations for Perseverance to study. (Image
    credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/ASU/MSSS)
    First things first
    In what world do we want to live?

    Perhaps that is the strongest question, said Nathalie Cabrol, Director
    of the Carl Sagan Center for Research at the SETI Institute in Mountain
    View, California.

    "First things first," Cabrol said. "AI is a formidable tool and should
    be used as such to support humans in their activity. We actually do that already every day, in one form or another," she added, "and improved
    versions might make things better."

    On the other hand, like any human tools, they are double-edged swords
    and sometimes lead people to start thinking "nonsense," Cabrol added,
    and she believes that to be the case here.

    "I do personally like writing papers. It is a great time where I see my
    work coming to fruition and can put my ideas together on paper," Cabrol
    said, and sees that as an important part of her creative process.

    "But let's assume for a moment that I let this algorithm write it for
    me. Then, I am being told that it's okay because the paper will be
    reviewed," Cabrol said. "But by whom? I would assume that if you let
    algorithms do the job for you it's because you assume they will be less
    biased and do a better job? Following that logic, I would assume that a
    human is not qualified to review that paper."

    Specters of "transhumanism"
    Cabrol senses that a next question is: Where do we stop? What if all researchers ask AI to write their research grant proposals? What if they
    do and don't tell?

    "This depends in which world you want to live and what part you want
    left to humanity," Cabrol said. "We are creative beings and we are not perfect," she continued, "but we learn from our mistakes and that's part
    of our evolution. Mistake and learning are other words for
    'adaptation'," she said.

    By letting AI getting into what makes us human, we are messing with our
    own evolution, Cabrol added, and she sees specters of "transhumanism" in
    all of this. Transhumanism can be defined as a loose ideological
    movement united by the belief that the human race can evolve beyond its
    current physical and mental limitations, especially by means of science
    and technology.

    "Of course, that's not a chip in our brain and that's only a paper, you
    will say. Unfortunately, it is part of a much broader, and very
    disturbing, discourse on the (mis) use of AI," Cabrol concluded. "This
    is not trivial. It is not just a paper. It is about who we really want
    to become as a species. Personally, I see AI useful as a tool, and I
    will confine it as that."

    Knowledge cutoff
    "How funny that we still argue about the definition of life as we know
    it, and we're starting to use a tool in that search that also stretches
    the definition of life," said Amy Williams, assistant professor in
    Geological Sciences at the University of Florida in Gainesville. She is
    a participating scientist on the NASA Curiosity and Perseverance rover
    missions that have robots scouting about on Mars.

    Williams reacted to the AI-ChatGPT off-world setting in full disclosure
    mode. "The first time I used ChatGPT was in preparing for this response,
    asking it: 'What organic molecules have the Mars rovers found?' The
    question was based on my particular field of expertise," she told
    Space.com.

    The Perseverance rover on the surface of Mars

    Perseverance rover on the surface of Mars. (Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS)
    "It was illuminating in that it did a great job providing me with
    statements that I would describe as robust and appropriate for a summary
    that I could give in an outreach talk to the general public about
    organic molecules on Mars," said Williams.

    But it also demonstrated to Williams its limitation in that it could
    only access data from, in her case, September 2021 — flagging it as a "knowledge cutoff."

    "So its responses did not encompass the full breadth of published
    results about organics on Mars that I know about since 2021," she said.

    Emphasizing that she is not a specialist in AI or machine learning,
    Williams said that future iterations of ChatGPT + AI will likely be able
    to incorporate more recent data and generate a complete synthesis of the
    recent results from any given scientific exploration.

    "However, I still see these as tools to use in step with humans, instead
    of in place of humans," Williams remarked. "Given the limitations in
    data uplink and downlink with our current Deep Space Network, it is
    difficult for me to see a way to upload the knowledge base for something
    as complex as, for example, the current and historic data and context
    for the sources, sinks, and fates of organic molecules on Mars so that
    the onboard AI could generate a manuscript for publication," she said.

    Putting it into context
    RELATED STORIES:
    — How artificial intelligence is helping us explore the solar system

    — Machine learning spots 8 potential technosignatures

    — Tricky alien worlds easier to find when humans and machines team up

    Williams views cutting edge planetary research as something that
    requires "retrospection, introspection and prospection." We push forward
    the boundaries of science by considering options, she added, that have
    never before been considered.

    "Right now, my experience with ChatGPT showed me it is great at a
    literature search and turning that information into, effectively, an
    annotated bibliography. It could certainly save me time in looking up fundamental knowledge. It told me what we already know — and typed it up
    very nicely! — but it was not anything that any Mars organic
    geochemistry graduate student couldn't tell me."

    In the end, Williams said that while ChatGPT + AI is a powerful tool
    that can positively augment the process of conveying information and new discoveries, "I don't see it replacing the human-driven process of
    synthesizing new information and putting it into context to generate new insights into science. However, if every AI sci-fi movie I've seen is predictive of the future, I may be wrong!"

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    as Space.com's Space Insider Columnist among his other projects, Leonard
    has authored numerous books on space exploration, Mars missions and
    more, with his latest being "Moon Rush: The New Space Race" published in
    2019 by National Geographic. He also wrote "Mars: Our Future on the Red
    Planet" released in 2016 by National Geographic. Leonard has served as
    a correspondent for SpaceNews, Scientific American and Aerospace America
    for the AIAA. He was received many awards, including the first Ordway
    Award for Sustained Excellence in Spaceflight History in 2015 at the AAS Wernher von Braun Memorial Symposium. You can find out Leonard's latest
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  • From Dorit fokner@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 22:03:32 2023
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 9:26:14 PM UTC+5:30, a425couple wrote:
    Of course you have to use something like artificial intelligence, to
    learn, then make decisions. The time lag for communications makes
    it impossible for it to wait for human command to make any movement.

    from
    https://www.space.com/artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-mars

    ChatGPT on Mars: How AI can help scientists study the Red Planet

    By Leonard David published 2 days ago
    "This is not trivial. It is not just a paper. It is about who we really
    want to become as a species."

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    robots on Mars
    Could robots on Mars be supercharged with AI to perform on-the-spot research, relaying their discoveries in real-time? (Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech)
    The world is abuzz, perhaps even befuddled, about the growing use of artificial intelligence. One of the most popular artificial intelligence (AI) tools available to the public today is ChatGPT, an AI-powered
    language model that has been "trained" and fed vast amounts of online information. After taking all that in, ChatGPT can regurgitate
    human-like text responses to a given prompt. It can respond to queries, discuss a lot of topics and crank out pieces of writing.

    It isn't difficult to imagine a robot wheeling and dealing on the
    surface of Mars, factory-wired with ChatGPT or a similar artificial intelligence language model. This smartbot could be loaded with a suite
    of science devices. It could analyze what its scientific instruments are finding "on-the-spot," perhaps even collating any evidence of past life
    it uncovers nearly instantly.

    That data could be digested, assessed, appraised and assembled in some scientific form. The product, in well-paginated condition, with
    footnotes to boot, could then be transmitted directly from the robot to
    a scientific journal, like Science or Nature, for publication. Of
    course, that paper would then be peer reviewed — maybe by AI/ChatGPT reviewers. Sound far-fetched?

    I reached out to several leading researchers, presenting this off-Earth, on-Mars scenario, with a variety of reactions in return.

    Related: Artificial intelligence could help hunt for life on Mars and
    other alien worlds

    Click here for more Space.com videos...
    CLOSE

    Prone to hallucination
    "It could be done but there could be misleading information," said
    Sercan Ozcan, Reader in Innovation and Technology Management at the University of Portsmouth in the United Kingdom. "ChatGPT is not 100% accurate and it is prone to 'hallucination.'"

    Ozcan said he's not sure if ChatGPT would be valuable if there is no
    prior volume of work for it to analyze and emulate. "I believe humans
    can still do better work than ChatGPT, even if it is slower," he said.

    His advice is to not use ChatGPT "in areas where we cannot accept any error."

    Humans in the loop
    Steve Ruff, associate research professor at Arizona State University's School of Earth and Space Exploration in Tempe, Arizona, is keenly tied
    to studying Mars.

    "My immediate reaction is that it's highly unlikely that 'on-the-spot' manuscripts would be a realistic scenario given how the process involves debates among the team over the observations and their interpretation,"
    Ruff said. "I'm skeptical that any AI, trained on existing observations, could be used to confidently interpret new observations without humans
    in the loop, especially with new instrument datasets that have not been available previously. Every such dataset requires painstaking efforts to sort out."

    For the near term, Ruff thinks AI could be used for rover operations,
    like picking targets to observe without humans in the loop, and for navigation.

    NASA's Ingenuity Mars helicopter, photographed by the agency's
    Perseverance rover on April 16, 2023. The rover captured this
    enhanced-color image using its Mastcam-Z instrument.

    NASA's Ingenuity Mars helicopter, photographed by the agency's
    Perseverance rover on April 16, 2023. Ingenuity has been used as a
    'scout' to help identify locations for Perseverance to study. (Image
    credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/ASU/MSSS)
    First things first
    In what world do we want to live?

    Perhaps that is the strongest question, said Nathalie Cabrol, Director
    of the Carl Sagan Center for Research at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California.

    "First things first," Cabrol said. "AI is a formidable tool and should
    be used as such to support humans in their activity. We actually do that already every day, in one form or another," she added, "and improved versions might make things better."

    On the other hand, like any human tools, they are double-edged swords
    and sometimes lead people to start thinking "nonsense," Cabrol added,
    and she believes that to be the case here.

    "I do personally like writing papers. It is a great time where I see my
    work coming to fruition and can put my ideas together on paper," Cabrol said, and sees that as an important part of her creative process.

    "But let's assume for a moment that I let this algorithm write it for
    me. Then, I am being told that it's okay because the paper will be reviewed," Cabrol said. "But by whom? I would assume that if you let algorithms do the job for you it's because you assume they will be less biased and do a better job? Following that logic, I would assume that a human is not qualified to review that paper."

    Specters of "transhumanism"
    Cabrol senses that a next question is: Where do we stop? What if all researchers ask AI to write their research grant proposals? What if they
    do and don't tell?

    "This depends in which world you want to live and what part you want
    left to humanity," Cabrol said. "We are creative beings and we are not perfect," she continued, "but we learn from our mistakes and that's part
    of our evolution. Mistake and learning are other words for
    'adaptation'," she said.

    By letting AI getting into what makes us human, we are messing with our
    own evolution, Cabrol added, and she sees specters of "transhumanism" in
    all of this. Transhumanism can be defined as a loose ideological
    movement united by the belief that the human race can evolve beyond its current physical and mental limitations, especially by means of science
    and technology.

    "Of course, that's not a chip in our brain and that's only a paper, you
    will say. Unfortunately, it is part of a much broader, and very
    disturbing, discourse on the (mis) use of AI," Cabrol concluded. "This
    is not trivial. It is not just a paper. It is about who we really want
    to become as a species. Personally, I see AI useful as a tool, and I
    will confine it as that."

    Knowledge cutoff
    "How funny that we still argue about the definition of life as we know
    it, and we're starting to use a tool in that search that also stretches
    the definition of life," said Amy Williams, assistant professor in Geological Sciences at the University of Florida in Gainesville. She is
    a participating scientist on the NASA Curiosity and Perseverance rover missions that have robots scouting about on Mars.

    Williams reacted to the AI-ChatGPT off-world setting in full disclosure mode. "The first time I used ChatGPT was in preparing for this response, asking it: 'What organic molecules have the Mars rovers found?' The
    question was based on my particular field of expertise," she told
    Space.com.

    The Perseverance rover on the surface of Mars

    Perseverance rover on the surface of Mars. (Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS)
    "It was illuminating in that it did a great job providing me with
    statements that I would describe as robust and appropriate for a summary that I could give in an outreach talk to the general public about
    organic molecules on Mars," said Williams.

    But it also demonstrated to Williams its limitation in that it could
    only access data from, in her case, September 2021 — flagging it as a "knowledge cutoff."

    "So its responses did not encompass the full breadth of published
    results about organics on Mars that I know about since 2021," she said.

    Emphasizing that she is not a specialist in AI or machine learning,
    Williams said that future iterations of ChatGPT + AI will likely be able
    to incorporate more recent data and generate a complete synthesis of the recent results from any given scientific exploration.

    "However, I still see these as tools to use in step with humans, instead
    of in place of humans," Williams remarked. "Given the limitations in
    data uplink and downlink with our current Deep Space Network, it is difficult for me to see a way to upload the knowledge base for something
    as complex as, for example, the current and historic data and context
    for the sources, sinks, and fates of organic molecules on Mars so that
    the onboard AI could generate a manuscript for publication," she said.

    Putting it into context
    RELATED STORIES:
    — How artificial intelligence is helping us explore the solar system

    — Machine learning spots 8 potential technosignatures

    — Tricky alien worlds easier to find when humans and machines team up

    Williams views cutting edge planetary research as something that
    requires "retrospection, introspection and prospection." We push forward
    the boundaries of science by considering options, she added, that have
    never before been considered.

    "Right now, my experience with ChatGPT showed me it is great at a
    literature search and turning that information into, effectively, an annotated bibliography. It could certainly save me time in looking up fundamental knowledge. It told me what we already know — and typed it up very nicely! — but it was not anything that any Mars organic
    geochemistry graduate student couldn't tell me."

    In the end, Williams said that while ChatGPT + AI is a powerful tool
    that can positively augment the process of conveying information and new discoveries, "I don't see it replacing the human-driven process of synthesizing new information and putting it into context to generate new insights into science. However, if every AI sci-fi movie I've seen is predictive of the future, I may be wrong!"

    Join our Space Forums to keep talking space on the latest missions,
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    Leonard David is an award-winning space journalist who has been
    reporting on space activities for more than 50 years. Currently writing
    as Space.com's Space Insider Columnist among his other projects, Leonard
    has authored numerous books on space exploration, Mars missions and
    more, with his latest being "Moon Rush: The New Space Race" published in 2019 by National Geographic. He also wrote "Mars: Our Future on the Red Planet" released in 2016 by National Geographic. Leonard has served as
    a correspondent for SpaceNews, Scientific American and Aerospace America
    for the AIAA. He was received many awards, including the first Ordway
    Award for Sustained Excellence in Spaceflight History in 2015 at the AAS Wernher von Braun Memorial Symposium. You can find out Leonard's latest project at his website and on Twitter.
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