• Russia Loses 2 Tanks, 18 Armored Vehicles and 690 Troops in a Day

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 11 14:29:39 2023
    XPost: sci.military.naval, soc.history.war.misc

    Always the question,, how much do we believe?

    from https://www.newsweek.com/russia-loses-tanks-armored-vehicles-troops-day-1799367

    Russia Loses 2 Tanks, 18 Armored Vehicles and 690 Troops in a Day: Kyiv
    BY BRENDAN COLE ON 5/10/23 AT 7:27 AM EDT
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    As Russia celebrated Victory Day and marked the Soviet role in defeating
    Nazi Germany, Moscow's forces continued to suffer high losses of
    military vehicles and troops in its invasion of Ukraine, according to Kyiv.

    In its update on Wednesday, the Ukrainian armed forces said that over
    the previous 24 hours, Russian forces had lost two tanks, 18 armored
    vehicles and 690 troops. Newsweek has contacted the Russian Defense
    Ministry about the figures which have not been independently verified.

    These losses add to Russia's equipment challenges that were seemingly
    evidenced by its scaled-down display in Moscow's Red Square during
    Victory Day celebrations. They also come ahead of an expected Ukrainian counteroffensive, which has been talked about for weeks.

    Kyiv's estimates of Russian losses of tanks have risen to 3,736, and of
    armored vehicles to 7,275, since the start of President Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion in February 2022. The open-source intelligence
    website Oryx puts Russian losses of armored vehicles of tanks at 838 and
    1,938 respectively, as of Wednesday.

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    Regarding Russian troop losses, Kyiv's latest estimate stands at
    196,310. Other estimates are much lower. In February, the U.S. said that
    up to 43,000 Russian troops had been killed in action, according to a
    leaked Pentagon report carried by U.S. news outlets.

    Ukrainian servicemen of the Adam tactical group
    Ukrainian servicemen ride a T-64 tank towards a front line near the town
    of Bakhmut, Donetsk region, on May 7, 2023. Ukraine has said on May 10
    that more than 196,000 Russian troops have been killed since the start
    of Moscow's invasion.
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    Earlier in May, U.S. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said
    more than 20,000 Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine since
    December, half of them mercenaries fighting for the Wagner Group headed
    by Yevgeny Prigozhin. Russia has not updated its tally of troops killed
    in action since September 2022, when it was just under 6,000.

    Ukraine's Defense Ministry also said on Wednesday that Russian attacks
    had taken place across nine Ukrainian regions over the previous 24
    hours, in which two civilians had been killed and five others injured.

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    Russian troops launched 25 Kalibr and Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles and
    nine S-300 surface-to-air missiles in Ukraine overnight Wednesday,
    according to Ukraine's military.

    Since late April, Russia has intensified large-scale series of missile
    and drone attacks. The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said that
    Moscow was looking to launch "almost daily" missile strikes to create
    the impression that it is stopping the counteroffensive expected from
    Ukraine's forces in the coming weeks.

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    The missile strikes were on a smaller scale than during its campaign
    against Ukrainian energy infrastructure during the fall and winter and
    were "likely" not having a significant impact on Ukraine's forces, the
    think tank said on Tuesday.

    During curtailed Victory Day celebrations in Russia, an old T-34 was the
    only main battle tank on show in Moscow's Red Square while most of the
    8,000 military personnel reportedly in the parade were auxiliaries, paramilitary forces and cadets, the U.K. Ministry of Defense said in its
    update on Wednesday.

    Russian authorities likely refrained from fielding more equipment
    "because they want to avoid domestic criticism about prioritizing
    parades over combat operations," the update added.

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    william barker
    1 day ago

    The true Russian casualty figure, should include wounded who died from
    poor Russian medical care, which using the Italian economist Pareto,
    ratio of 20/80, increased the number of dead by nearly 100,000, to
    nearly 300,000.

    The standard ratio of 2.5 (2-3), multiplies the dead figure to calculate woun...
    The standard ratio of 2.5 (2-3), multiplies the dead figure to calculate wounded. Obviously my preceding observation implied 20% of Russian
    wounded died from poor medical care, so the net wounded figure would
    then be 196,310 x 2= 392,620 net wounded. Adding the wounded and dead
    provides a total casualty figure of 690,000 approximate.

    As verification multiply recent daily dead figure of 690 x 429 days =
    296,010 dead projection.


    Timekeeper
    1 day ago

    Just think how quick this WAR would have been over if russia had freedom
    of the press. The truth would be known, the russian people may have said
    we don't want this.

    But they are censored from knowing much about the WAR.


    Miguel
    1 day ago

    Not to worry comrades... they still have one in reserve! the engine
    sound is very very similar to a washing machine, full throtle...

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  • From Keith Willshaw@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 12:18:40 2023
    XPost: sci.military.naval, soc.history.war.misc

    On 11/05/2023 22:29, a425couple wrote:
    Always the question,, how much do we believe?

    from https://www.newsweek.com/russia-loses-tanks-armored-vehicles-troops-day-1799367



    As Russia celebrated Victory Day and marked the Soviet role in defeating
    Nazi Germany, Moscow's forces continued to suffer high losses of
    military vehicles and troops in its invasion of Ukraine, according to Kyiv.

    In its update on Wednesday, the Ukrainian armed forces said that over
    the previous 24 hours, Russian forces had lost two tanks, 18 armored
    vehicles and 690 troops. Newsweek has contacted the Russian Defense
    Ministry about the figures which have not been independently verified.


    Well given that media companies including CNN and the leader of the
    Russian Wagner group are openly stating that Russian Troops are not
    simply leaving Bakhmut but are in full flight not even carrying personal weapons and the Ukrainians have not even launched theircounter attack
    yet what do you think ?

    Morale in the Russian Army is terrible and that is no surprise when you
    take conscripts, give them minimal training and make frontal attacks on experienced soldiers who are dug in and defending their homeland. Modern
    AT weapons like Javelin are lethal against armies using tactics that
    were much the same in WW2.

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