• Interesting view = lack of Russian volunteers and reserves

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 6 14:08:36 2023
    From a Quora

    Is Putin losing the invasion by conscripting Russian soldiers?
    Yes, but not how you think.

    Every Russian male is required to serve in the military, yet they cannot
    get any of these experienced men to volunteer. Why not?

    Because during their mandatory service they are heavily abused by their superiors and treated like expendable animals. They are treated like
    subhumans by their own country.

    This is why Russia cannot find volunteers, because everyone already
    served in the existing conscription system and they know how bad it is.

    So yes, conscription is why they are losing the war. The decades of
    abusive unfair conscription that has destroyed citizen’s trust in the
    Russian military.


    George Rix
    · Dec 25
    Remember the Holodomor, I bet lots of Ukrainians do!


    John Bradshaw
    · Dec 29
    There is no end game now for Russia they are now the new world enemy ,
    the Adolph Hitlers Germany… of the 21st century.

    They invaded it didn’t work out.

    Now without the courage to realise that they only have two outcomes, no
    matter what they do from today onward.

    Outcome 1 is to not become the hated of the world, and pull out of this
    now senseless war, with no advantage.

    Or if they are not stopped , they will enter into a horrible war of
    attrition with Ukraine, who will fight them until the end, this will
    make Russia the “Americans of the 60’s and 70’s” this willmakeRussia have their own Vietnam, but worse, this willmake Russia who have
    attacked a neighbour smack up against the border , who will face the
    terrorism and the hatred and an on going horror of guerrilla warfare,
    and sabotage right inside its own borders. from people who live next door.

    It may well see some Russians in their own country turn on this mad
    government who is burying them in a sewer of misery, how ever they the
    civilian population of that poor misguided nation Russia think today, if Ukraine turns into a long drawn out under ground affair , where the
    supposed winner is constantly being attacked from inside and outside by terrorism and by regular Ukraine military, as well as under cover
    underground operations,, to keep their country free, like the Vietnamese
    did, Russia will invite its worst nightmare, that could see it vanish as
    any kind of large power, because it will go broke.

    But they never let up. They don’t seem to know when to stop hitting themselves on the head with a hammer, their own young men leave the
    country rather than get sucked into this rotten deadly war.

    Besides becoming a real third world nation the population will still see
    the body-bags of Russian soldiers, of course Ukraine have plenty of
    those but they are defenders not the cause of this idiocy, with no
    decent outcome , its almost too late, .

    I wonder what anyone else out there thinks of the absolutely most stupid ridiculous aggravated arrogant foolish thing it was for Putin to invade Ukraine, thinking it’d take a week, and now 10 months later he sits in
    winter stalemate, and really even if he over ran Ukraine, he would not
    win, he would tie a gigantic rock of economic misery and death and
    dislike and distrust from inside his own nation.

    I’m amazed how dills get to lead nations, and some dills do believe me.

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  • From DAN@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 7 17:53:33 2023
    a425couple wrote:

    I wonder what anyone else out there thinks of the absolutely most stupid >ridiculous aggravated arrogant foolish thing it was for Putin to invade >Ukraine, ...
    Im amazed how dills get to lead nations, and some dills do believe me.

    I can see three outcomes:

    1- Putin dies naturally of whatever ailment is eating him. Next guy, if halfway smart, somehow declares victory and goes home.

    2- Russians with some backbone left come to rescue of the motherland, uprise and
    kill him. That's the one outcome where Russia recovers her honor, but it'd be horribly costly. (IMO not likely. They've never had a democracy or any power by the people)

    3a- Russian generals realize that Putin is a terribly bad war leader who's going
    to lose, and just like Hitler's generals, they plot to kill him. Hopefully with more success.

    3b- Like 3a, but it's not even generals to save the country, it's plutocrats to save their loot.

    My personal expectation is 80% for 3b, 19% for 3a. But 1% for Armageddon.

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  • From Keith Willshaw@21:1/5 to DAN on Wed Feb 8 11:39:30 2023
    On 07/02/2023 16:53, DAN wrote:
    a425couple wrote:

    I wonder what anyone else out there thinks of the absolutely most stupid
    ridiculous aggravated arrogant foolish thing it was for Putin to invade
    Ukraine, ...
    I’m amazed how dills get to lead nations, and some dills do believe me.

    I can see three outcomes:

    1- Putin dies naturally of whatever ailment is eating him. Next guy, if halfway
    smart, somehow declares victory and goes home.

    2- Russians with some backbone left come to rescue of the motherland, uprise and
    kill him. That's the one outcome where Russia recovers her honor, but it'd be horribly costly. (IMO not likely. They've never had a democracy or any power by
    the people)

    3a- Russian generals realize that Putin is a terribly bad war leader who's going
    to lose, and just like Hitler's generals, they plot to kill him. Hopefully with
    more success.

    3b- Like 3a, but it's not even generals to save the country, it's plutocrats to
    save their loot.

    My personal expectation is 80% for 3b, 19% for 3a. But 1% for Armageddon.




    Option 4 is to do a Khruschev and denounce his predecessor as a tyrant,
    explain he was always against it and call a summit meeting to restore peace.

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