• afghanistan- US military equipment left behind? counterbattery

    From patrick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 31 05:42:19 2021
    So the US military used some counterbattery fire to fend off the ISIS-K rockets fired at kabul airport the day before the US military pulled out of the airport. Did that equipment get left behind? pyrotechnically deconstructed or c-17'd out? TIA Pat

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to patrick on Tue Aug 31 10:58:04 2021
    On 8/31/2021 5:42 AM, patrick wrote:
    So the US military used some counterbattery fire to fend off the ISIS-K rockets fired at kabul airport the day before the US military pulled out of the airport. Did that equipment get left behind? pyrotechnically deconstructed or c-17'd out? TIA Pat

    Good Questions.

    Sadly, we will probably never really know.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 31 15:39:05 2021
    XPost: soc.history.war.misc

    On 8/31/2021 10:58 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 8/31/2021 5:42 AM, patrick wrote:
    So the US military  used some counterbattery fire to fend off the
    ISIS-K rockets fired at kabul airport the day before the US military
    pulled out of the airport. Did that equipment get left behind?
    pyrotechnically deconstructed or c-17'd out?   TIA Pat

    Good Questions.

    Sadly, we will probably never really know.


    As to other equipment left behind, I see this on Facebook:

    Profile photo for Bob Frome
    Bob Frome
    Updated August 23

    What leftover US weapons in Afghanistan worry you the most?

    I know a lot of people are upset over the weapons that the US left in Afghanistan. I recall being very upset over US weapons left after the
    Vietnam War, however my thinking on this has changed a lot over the past
    few decades. Not only what worries you the most, but probably the more important question is what equipment did we leave behind that will LAST
    the longest?

    Armies leave equipment after war, period. That will never change.
    More complex equipment requires spare parts and people to maintain that equipment (helicopters, aircraft). You need people and spares, both in combination.
    Soviet small arms have lasted for decades with small, local shops
    fabricating replacement parts. Most large equipment was depleted during
    the 90’s civil war.
    A big different between Afghanistan and Vietnam was the sheer volume of
    weapons that we left the SV military, along with personnel on both sides
    who knew how to maintain planes, armor and helicopters. Vietnam used US weapons, large & small for decades after……… that’s not the Taliban in my
    humble opinion.
    Can this gentleman fly this helo and maintain it?

    Are the Taliban better off just continuing to use pickup trucks vs
    Humvee’s? Can only canibilize Humvee parts for so long.

    The million dollar argument… can the M16A variants survive for decades
    in comparison to the AK in Afghanistan? What about ammo depletion over
    time and ability to resupply 556?

    Can anyone picture your average Taliban soldier keeping the gas tube
    clean in an M16 variant? Then again, did we send any piston systems to Afghanistan?

    Update: Impressed with most of the answers from the posters below. Just
    adding an equipment list below (not sure on 556 numbers):

    2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
    75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans,
    Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
    45 UH-60 Blachhawk Helicopters
    50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
    ScanEagle Military Drones
    30 Military Version Cessnas
    4 C-130’s
    29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft
    208+ Aircraft Total
    At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50
    Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns
    and Ammunition
    61,000 M203 Rounds
    20,040 Grenades
    Howitzers
    Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
    162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Communications Gear
    16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
    Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
    Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
    10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
    Reconnaissance Equipment (ISR)
    Laser Aiming Units
    Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
    2,520 Bombs
    Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops all operational
    Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
    Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600
    rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
    Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
    US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Inter-agency Identity Detection
    Equipment Biometrics
    Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators

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