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Seriously?! Russia Sustains Record Number of Deaths
How can these numbers be real?
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Brent Cooper
Fri
November 5 Update-Russia Sustains Record Number of Deaths On Wednesday
Russia has suffered the largest number of casualties in a single day on November 2 as Ukrainian troops targeted unequipped Russian soldiers,
killing at least 1,000. This information was reported by the India
Today. Ukraine's defense ministry has claimed that up to 71,200 Russian soldiers have so far been killed in the conflict. Contrast this number
with 14,000 Soviets killed in the Afghanistan War in a 10 year period.
The Ukraine War has gone on for less than 1/10th of that time.
Earlier Russia had lost 950 in a single day.
Ukraine claimed that many of the 1,000 who were killed, died because
they had not been equipped or trained to fight. It appears those who
fled Russia to avoid conscription knew what lay ahead of them.
Since Putin ordered the partial mobilization, many have been sent to the
front lines with little or no training and little or no equipment. We
should expect more routs by Ukraine and the casualty rates of Russia to skyrocket. Sending troops with little training or equipment to the front
lines to fight may be added to Putin’s war crimes.
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Dave Calhoun
· Fri
Where are all the trolls? Probably trying to hide from mobilization.
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David Koon
· Fri
Fred Willard has weighed in above.
Robert Wright
Now what does that last name make me think of?
William Houston
· Fri
Well keep reading the comments. One or two have come out already…
C Carroll Heyward
· Fri
Not good to be Russian conscript. It is truly sad that Putin is
sacrificing the future of Russia for nothing.
Andreas Wellna
· Sat
That megalomaniac cares s**t about anybody’s life, Russian or other. For
lack of options he throws the criminals and Burjats, Tuva and the like
into the front battle lines, makes them run towards the Ukrainians who
kill them. This is Russian intel gathering. This way the find out where
the other side have soldiers and what kind of equipment they have to
expect. And if those poor meat grinder devils run back the are shot by
the cowards who comfortly wait way back. - New Lada for those left
behind?! Forget it! The bodies will be cremated on the spot and declared
MIA. Problem solved
Charles Moore
Taking a page out of Stalin’s playbook on how to clear mine field: March
a couple of brigades through it. Why these kind of leaders are allowed
to breathe by their own people is beyond me.
David Koon
· Sat
More of the future of the country is fleeing Russia. That exceeds the
number killed and injured. Either way, this is costing Russia its future.
Morten
Read his work from RUC and seen his answers on Q Updated Thu
Is Carl Hamilton a historian?
Virtually anyone can call themselves an 'historian' if they do indeed
read and study history, even if they do so at the most basic level and
without any prior formal training. In this respect, history is quite
different from most other 'professional' pursuits.
He doesn't work as a historian and according to his LinkedIn he never
have. So he is as much an historian as you and me. It's not a protected
titel.
If it was, I'd say he wouldn't fall under it. Few titles of meaning can
be had without any relevant work experience.
You can read all of his 'publications’ here. The link goes to the Danish Royal Library which contains all research papers by students and later
in their career:
https://soeg.kb.dk/discovery/search?query=creator,contains,Suadicani,%20David%20Mathias,AND&search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&vid=45KBDK_KGL:KGL&mode=advanced&offset=0
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Nothing meaningful. Most relevant report is about lend/lease where he
concludes that this didn't really change anything.
His profile here on Quora shows that he have a hard time understandind a historic event even though he is living through it. So I'd not expect
him to get any real understanding of something which happened long ago.
I think Carl/David gives a meaningful description of him self in the two
quotes below. Like the Russians which he adores, he loves to criticize
others for the behavior he himself is guilty of.
He claims that he isn't into censorship and doesn't delete comments (…. 10/2022 he tried to have this answer deleted). But I've seen him throw
tantrums at 3 different people within 24 hours and delete their comments afterwards.
Others experience the same. If you present statistics which he doesn't
like, he'll go on a rant/tantrum and block you:
Disclaimer: I haven’t met him yet, but he invited me to his wedding. So 23/9-2023 I’ll meet the guy in Hvalsø. I’ll update this answer afterwards.
He likes to throw around invitations like to another guy here below
(none of her previous jobs are as a singer, don't know where he gets
that from).
Plot-twist: She is of course not a singer and haven't listed singer once
as a profession in her LinkedIn. Carl just can't help lying about both
his and his wife's profession. Maybe singing at her husband's birthday
makes her a singer and writing on Quora makes him a historian.
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This guy is still writing a lot of loooong articles explaining how
Russia is winning and a great country. It's a classic example on how you
can find a source for any conclusion you wish to make. He have always
started with the conclusion and then found what he needed from there.
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Seamus Luke
Ah … he makes “inductions” as opposed to “deductions”?
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Tim Chavez
· Fri
Who reports what numbers isnt neararly as relevant as the point that
lots of good Russian men .. have just died. And for no reward to the
state. But at incredible Cost of lives and the enormous cost of
rebuilding… on Russia's dime.
Fred, it seems, would rather play number doodles and do irrelevent
magnitude comparisons, than address the fact that all those strong young Russian men.. some quite honorable people.. their lives were WASTED on a paranoid pipe dream of just waltzing in like a bully bear, and taking
what belongs to Ukraine. And they tried to take it.. just because they
can. All the excuses have been smoke thin. Snd yet..people died because
Russia started the shooting and the killing. And they are now being
shot..and killed in great and in unnecessary numbers.
Oh wait, maybe they cant take Ukraine's sovereig territory.. So far that
didnt work out so well. Maybe they can't win, even if they target
Ukrainian civilians: hospitals, schools, day cares, and the powerplants
that keep them warm in the winter. This is the big scary Russian Bear?
The world hates what they are seeing. So much unnecessary cruelty and
death… to justify a paranoid dream. And the terror of the bear? Yawn.
The number of Ukraine dead isn't in a contest with the number of Russian
dead. They are all unnecessary tragedies. Address that without lying
about the NATO bogeyman coming to get you.
Russia didn't show up to fight the Ukrainian army. There isnt any honor
or respectable pov in this special military operation. They just wanted
to mow down the citizens of a sovereign neighbor,.. again. Same play
book, different year. This will likely be Russia’s siren song as they
sink their own ship by overreaching and proving their lack of metal in
the spine,… following Moscva, … down the drain.
imo.
David Kidd
· Fri
And therein lies the problem. Strategic, moral and ethical malfeasance
by Russia’s leadership toward its own conscripted populace. While the
smart ones bolted, the ones who maintained blind faith in the regime
hung around to get slaughtered. It’s a shameful waste of humanity and
you know it, ‘Fred.’
Guy Nimmo
‘FRED' is a keyboard warrior careful not to be conscripted. Also Moscow
and St. Petersburg residents are very unrepresented in t
Robert Stevens
· Fri
No, the conscription is for the survival of Putin. Russia’s existence is
not and has not been threatened. Ukraine certainly doesn’t have the population to invade Russia, and the population of the NATO countries wouldn’t support an attempt to occupy it. The only existential threat
would come if Putin launches nuclear missiles or other weapons of mass destruction, and even then, the initial retaliation would probably be non-nuclear destruction of Russia’s nuclear capability, weapons storage
and military concentrations.
The war was intended to be for the glory of Putin.
15,000 is not credible. Ukraine has probably got far more bodies in
storage than that: not all tank crew, for instance, left enough remains.
There is an internet project (Ищи своих )
launched which holds evidence (pictures of bodies and identity tags,
photos, phone data, etc.) but I can’t read it and it’s officially
blocked in Russia.
If ‘only’ 15,000 had died so far, there would have been no need to try
and recruit mercenaries from Syria, or from Russian prisons (both are
well documented), or for the conscription , and certainly no need to put
them into combat with minimal training and incomplete equipment.
We don’t actually know how many Ukrainian casualties there have been so
far (they said from the outset that they wouldn’t be publishing those numbers: Russian numbers have been wildly inflated from the start -
claiming more in several categories than existed.
David Koon
· Fri
If Russia looses, perhaps the country does start to break apart from
Moscow. perhaps Putin should have considered that before invading.
Likewise, hundreds of thousands of draft age men have fled the country.
Of course, those are the ones with money leaving the dying to poor
conscripts.
Phil
· Fri
Well there Fred Willard, why aren't you there in Ukraine showing your
fellow Russians how it is done? Its for the life and death of Russia,
you should proud to go risk your life for the cause in Putin's war. If
you died it would only be 1/1500000 of a percent of the Russian
population. Put your money where your mouth is, or are you a hypocrite?
Steven Bobulsky
· Fri
Unusual name for a St. Petersburg resident. My granddaughter was adopted
from there.
I'm sad for Russia. Wonderful cultural heritage and they had a great
shot at becoming a world power before Putin blew it all to hell with his
ethnic imperialism and wet dreams of being Peter the Great.
What incredible potential flushed down the loo for a land grab and the trillions of cubic feet of gas in the Donbas.
Putin is neither truly Russian nor Orthodox. He's just another mongol.
Let's talk again this spring Fred. But Russia's been sent back 30 years
and may end up China's boot licker.
Chris Allen
I would think that xi jin is somewhat disappointed in his best friend
putin’s behaviour. He needs him to help shore up the grand communist
plan of a new world order with china at the centre. A very large ugly
spider sitting in the middle of a very large web.
Rodger Hempfing
· Fri
Ukraine never attacked Russia. Looks like Ukraine might get Crimea back,
so that's a bonus.
Steve Mapua
· Fri
Ha ha ha comrade Fred Willard. Actually this will hasten the population collapse of Russia. After this, Russia will no longer have military age
men to fight out of a paper bag
Michael LeBauer
· Fri
Former teacher, now surviving on Putin’s troll stipend?
Silly that you think 150m is the pool of available suckers serving
Putin’s megalomaniacal ambitions.
15k was the US estimate from like 3 months ago. Even the conservative
death toll estimates are far above that by now.
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