• Object downed by idiots Joe Biden & Mark Milley may have been amateur h

    From The DC idiot show@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 18 04:09:42 2023
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    A group of amateur balloon enthusiasts in Illinois might have solved the mystery of one of the unknown flying objects shot down by the US military
    last week, a saga that had captivated the nation.

    The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade says one of its hobby
    craft went “missing in action” over Alaska on 11 February, the same day a
    US F-22 jet downed an unidentified airborne entity not far away above
    Canada’s Yukon territory.

    In a blogpost, the group did not link the two events. But the trajectory
    of the pico balloon before its last recorded electronic check-in at
    12.48am that day suggests a connection – as well as a fiery demise at the
    hands of a sidewinder missile on the 124th day of its journey, three days before it was set to complete its seventh circumnavigation.

    Biden in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building in Washington on
    Thursday.
    Biden says latest objects shot down over US not linked to China spy
    program
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    If that is what happened, it would mean the US military expended a missile costing $439,000 (£365,000) to fell an innocuous hobby balloon worth about
    $12 (£10).

    “For now we are calling pico balloon K9YO missing in action,” the group’s website says, noting that its last recorded altitude was 37,928ft
    (11,560m) while close to Hagemeister island, a 116 sq mile (300 sq km)
    landmass on the north shore of Bristol Bay.

    The object above Yukon was the second of three felled on Joe Biden’s
    orders on successive days last weekend after a Chinese spy balloon – a
    fourth separate object – was shot down over the Atlantic after it crossed
    the South Carolina coast on 4 February.

    US officials said during the week that the three objects shot down after
    the destruction of the Chinese spy balloon were probably benign and likely
    to have been commercial or linked to climate research.

    On Thursday, after several days of pressure from Democratic and Republican lawmakers, and amid an escalating diplomatic row with China, Biden broke
    his silence. The president said: “Nothing right now suggests they were
    related to China’s spy balloon program or that they were surveillance
    vehicles from any other country.”

    He said they were eliminated because authorities considered they posed a
    threat to aviation, although some observers say the downings were an overreaction amid political pressure over the discovery of the Chinese
    balloon.

    The Illinois brigade’s membership is a “small group of pico balloon enthusiasts” which has been operating since June 2021, according to its website.

    It says pico balloons have a 32in diameter and 100in circumference, and
    they have a cruising altitude between 32,000 and 50,000ft, a similar range
    to commercial aircraft.

    They contain trackers, solar panels and antenna packages lighter than a
    small bird, and the balloons are filled using less than a cubic foot of
    gas. According to Aviation Week, they are small hobby balloons starting at about $12 that allow enthusiasts to combine their interests in high-
    altitude ballooning and ham radio in an affordable way.

    Scientific Balloon Solutions founder Ron Meadows, whose Silicon Valley
    company makes purpose-built pico balloons for hobbyists, educators and scientists, told the publication that he attempted to alert authorities
    but was knocked back.

    “I tried contacting our military and the FBI, and just got the runaround,
    to try to enlighten them on what a lot of these things probably are,” he
    said. “They’re going to look not too intelligent to be shooting them
    down.”

    National security council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters that
    efforts were being made to locate and identify the remains of the objects
    that were shot down, but the process was hampered by their remote
    locations and freezing weather.

    Kirby also said there was “no evidence” that extraterrestrial activity was
    at play in any of the downed objects, but the president had ordered the formation of an interagency team “to study the broader policy implications
    for detection, analysis and disposition of unidentified aerial objects
    that pose either safety or security risks”.

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/17/object-us-military-shot- down-amateur-hobbyists-balloon>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to The DC idiot show on Fri Feb 17 22:50:23 2023
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    On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:09:42 +0100 (CET), The DC idiot show <dc_idiots@outlook.com> wrote:

    A group of amateur balloon enthusiasts in Illinois might have solved the >mystery of one of the unknown flying objects shot down by the US military >last week, a saga that had captivated the nation.

    More Republican hypocrisy. They whine because Biden didn't immediately shoot down a
    ballon. Now they're whining because he DID immediately shoot down a balloon.

    Any of you fuckheads want to volunter to ride on the wing of an F22 and shoot the next one
    down with a bow and arrow.

    Swill
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  • From 25B.R866@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 23:06:09 2023
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    We apparently have NOTHING that can get up high
    enough to take a good look at these things. So,
    we're shooting blind.

    A 1/4-scale U2 is needed - cameras, and a weapon
    of some kind. The U2 was whipped together REAL
    quick back in the day - follow the same plans,
    just scaled down, and no need for a human pilot
    so that's where you can stash the weapon. With
    modern engines, maybe a rocket boost, it should
    at least briefly manage to scoot up to around
    100,000-ft.

    We'd want maybe six or eight, spread across the
    country for timely response.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to dc_idiots@outlook.com on Sat Feb 18 04:34:00 2023
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    On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:09:42 +0100 (CET), The DC idiot show <dc_idiots@outlook.com> wrote:

    A group of amateur balloon enthusiasts in Illinois might have solved the >mystery of one of the unknown flying objects shot down by the US military >last week, a saga that had captivated the nation.

    The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade says one of its hobby
    craft went “missing in action” over Alaska on 11 February, the same day a
    US F-22 jet downed an unidentified airborne entity not far away above >Canada’s Yukon territory.

    The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade told Aviation Week
    that one of its balloons had gone missing, and that it may have been
    among the objects shot down by the US Air Force using a Sidewinder heat-seeking missile.

    Not all Sidewinders are infrared guided. The AIM 9C uses
    semi-active radar homing (AIM-9C)

    Flying a balloon at altitudes commonly used by commercial aircraft
    could have resulted in the loss of hundreds of lives, both in the air
    and on the ground.

    Everyone involved in this terrorist act should be arrested, tried, and imprisoned.

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