"M Benton" <REMOVEfourbez@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<TF%b8.7200$tu6.685790@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
Wasn't going to mention that but since you did I will add the common: "CrashHawk"
Mike
"Sergeant Mikey" <sergeantmikey@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020217210824.17979.00001024@mb-fl.aol.com...
Well, it was known as the Lawn Dart after it first came out, due to the tendency for the stabilator to go to full down and nose the aircraft intothe
ground....
The belief that Black Hawk stabilators caused a bunch of accidents is
an old wive's tale. The problem was whenever an accident happened in
the early days, the Army sent out a message to inspect the stabilator (nervous reaction) and that triggered the natural response in the
field that the stab must be the culpret. To set the record straight,
ther have been two accidents that in any way involved the stab. A
test aircraft, early in the program had a fatal, due to the fact that
the stabilator electronics were not connected to the airspeed probes,
due to maintenance error where the airspeed sensor cannon plugs were
left disconnected during an engineering test, and not reconnected. I
was there, and lost three friends in that one. The crew made a sporty takeoff, and pitched nose down for a rapid takeoff, which caught them
badly when the stab stayed in low speed mose (it never knew the
aircraft was accelerating). Not a stab fault, really.
The second was a foreign aircraft that went into severe icing
conditions, with the pitot heat off. Same outcome, with the crew
quite confused as the airspeed slowly bled off.
In short, there have been no accidents where the stabilator caused an accident, but there have been two where other errors made the
stabilator a contributer. That reflects about 4 million hours among
2500 Hawks.
For the record, the Black Hawk has the best safety record of any Army helicopter, ever, even though it does the typical nasty night missions
that the Army has to do.
Nick Lappos
WORWAC 69-5
D 1/1 Cav 1969-1970
"M Benton" <REMOVEfourbez@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<TF%b8.7200$tu6.685790@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
Wasn't going to mention that but since you did I will add the common: "CrashHawk"
Mike
"Sergeant Mikey" <sergeantmikey@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020217210824.17979.00001024@mb-fl.aol.com...
Well, it was known as the Lawn Dart after it first came out, due to the tendency for the stabilator to go to full down and nose the aircraft intothe
ground....
The belief that Black Hawk stabilators caused a bunch of accidents is
an old wive's tale. The problem was whenever an accident happened in
the early days, the Army sent out a message to inspect the stabilator (nervous reaction) and that triggered the natural response in the
field that the stab must be the culpret. To set the record straight,
ther have been two accidents that in any way involved the stab. A
test aircraft, early in the program had a fatal, due to the fact that
the stabilator electronics were not connected to the airspeed probes,
due to maintenance error where the airspeed sensor cannon plugs were
left disconnected during an engineering test, and not reconnected. I
was there, and lost three friends in that one. The crew made a sporty takeoff, and pitched nose down for a rapid takeoff, which caught them
badly when the stab stayed in low speed mose (it never knew the
aircraft was accelerating). Not a stab fault, really.
The second was a foreign aircraft that went into severe icing
conditions, with the pitot heat off. Same outcome, with the crew
quite confused as the airspeed slowly bled off.
In short, there have been no accidents where the stabilator caused an accident, but there have been two where other errors made the
stabilator a contributer. That reflects about 4 million hours among
2500 Hawks.
For the record, the Black Hawk has the best safety record of any Army helicopter, ever, even though it does the typical nasty night missions
that the Army has to do.
Nick Lappos
WORWAC 69-5
D 1/1 Cav 1969-1970
The belief that Black Hawk stabilators caused a bunch of accidents is
an old wive's tale. The problem was whenever an accident happened in
the early days, the Army sent out a message to inspect the stabilator (nervous reaction) and that triggered the natural response in the
field that the stab must be the culpret. To set the record straight,
ther have been two accidents that in any way involved the stab. A
test aircraft, early in the program had a fatal, due to the fact that
the stabilator electronics were not connected to the airspeed probes,
due to maintenance error where the airspeed sensor cannon plugs were
left disconnected during an engineering test, and not reconnected. I
was there, and lost three friends in that one. The crew made a sporty takeoff, and pitched nose down for a rapid takeoff, which caught them
badly when the stab stayed in low speed mose (it never knew the
aircraft was accelerating). Not a stab fault, really.
The second was a foreign aircraft that went into severe icing
conditions, with the pitot heat off. Same outcome, with the crew
quite confused as the airspeed slowly bled off.
In short, there have been no accidents where the stabilator caused an accident, but there have been two where other errors made the
stabilator a contributer. That reflects about 4 million hours among
2500 Hawks.
For the record, the Black Hawk has the best safety record of any Army helicopter, ever, even though it does the typical nasty night missions
that the Army has to do.
Nick Lappos
WORWAC 69-5
D 1/1 Cav 1969-1970
Can any readers please suggest any (preferably humorous and witty) alternative name/s you'd give to a Black Hawk helicopter, instead of
the Black Hawk name
and any reason why you like that better.
Can any readers please suggest any (preferably humorous and witty) alternative name/s you'd give to a Black Hawk helicopter, instead of
the Black Hawk name
and any reason why you like that better.
Can any readers please suggest any (preferably humorous and witty) alternative name/s you'd give to a Black Hawk helicopter, instead of
the Black Hawk name
and any reason why you like that better.
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