• Car won't start...

    From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 30 22:55:24 2021
    Aforementioned 1968 Ford Galaxie 302 engine won't start. It cranks over
    just fine, but won't try to catch or even "pop off" just once. Seems
    exactly like a no-spark condition.

    It's been a wet day, so I popped the distributor cap, but no
    condensation. Wiped off the metal parts and rotor anyway (not dirty).
    I pulled a random plug wire and put a spark tester on it, resting on the
    block. It sure lit up, that cylinder had spark.

    Drats... I really thought that the coil went, but it still has spark to
    the distributor cap. I dumped a bit of fuel down the throttle. No
    difference. Cranks just fine, but it won't even pop as if it were
    trying to catch; not even on one cylinder.

    I guess I'll try again in the morning. Any ideas? How ironic that I
    get stumped like this, after posting a couple of times today how old
    cars are so much easier to work on... LOL. Thanks in advance.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Dec 31 06:45:53 2021
    On 12/30/2021 9:55 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    Aforementioned 1968 Ford Galaxie 302 engine won't start.  It cranks over just fine, but won't try to catch or even "pop off" just once.  Seems exactly like a no-spark condition.

    It's been a wet day, so I popped the distributor cap, but no
    condensation.  Wiped off the metal parts and rotor anyway (not dirty). I pulled a random plug wire and put a spark tester on it, resting on the block.  It sure lit up, that cylinder had spark.

    Drats... I really thought that the coil went, but it still has spark to
    the distributor cap.  I dumped a bit of fuel down the throttle.  No difference.  Cranks just fine, but it won't even pop as if it were
    trying to catch; not even on one cylinder.

    I guess I'll try again in the morning.  Any ideas?  How ironic that I
    get stumped like this, after posting a couple of times today how old
    cars are so much easier to work on... LOL.  Thanks in advance.

    How many miles on the timing chain ? Put a timing light on it and see
    when the spark occurs .
    --
    Snag
    Let's Go Brandon !

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Dec 31 14:30:05 2021
    On 12/30/2021 9:55 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    Drats... I really thought that the coil went, but it still has spark to
    the distributor cap.  I dumped a bit of fuel down the throttle.  No difference.  Cranks just fine, but it won't even pop as if it were
    trying to catch; not even on one cylinder.

    If it's not spark and it's not fuel, it's air or timing. First step is to
    get out the timing light.

    I guess I'll try again in the morning.  Any ideas?  How ironic that I
    get stumped like this, after posting a couple of times today how old
    cars are so much easier to work on... LOL.  Thanks in advance.

    If you had a newer car, you could go into the menus and look at a plot of the crankshaft position sensor and the timing diagram without even having to get your hands dirty.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Dec 31 08:58:36 2021
    On 12/30/2021 9:55 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    Aforementioned 1968 Ford Galaxie 302 engine won't start. It
    cranks over just fine, but won't try to catch or even "pop
    off" just once. Seems exactly like a no-spark condition.

    It's been a wet day, so I popped the distributor cap, but no
    condensation. Wiped off the metal parts and rotor anyway
    (not dirty). I pulled a random plug wire and put a spark
    tester on it, resting on the block. It sure lit up, that
    cylinder had spark.

    Drats... I really thought that the coil went, but it still
    has spark to the distributor cap. I dumped a bit of fuel
    down the throttle. No difference. Cranks just fine, but it
    won't even pop as if it were trying to catch; not even on
    one cylinder.

    I guess I'll try again in the morning. Any ideas? How
    ironic that I get stumped like this, after posting a couple
    of times today how old cars are so much easier to work on...
    LOL. Thanks in advance.

    Is 'a bit of fuel' something like 1/4oz? More than 'a bit'
    makes its own trouble. Try ether instead.

    If not a fuel problem, likely a timing issue. Does your
    distributor turn easily (clamp bolt not tight)? May have
    wandered. If it's tight, check position with timing light
    since you have spark.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Dec 31 21:47:59 2021
    On 12/31/2021 7:45, Snag wrote:
    On 12/30/2021 9:55 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    Aforementioned 1968 Ford Galaxie 302 engine won't start. It cranks
    over just fine, but won't try to catch or even "pop off" just once.
    Seems exactly like a no-spark condition.

    It's been a wet day, so I popped the distributor cap, but no
    condensation. Wiped off the metal parts and rotor anyway (not dirty).
    I pulled a random plug wire and put a spark tester on it, resting on
    the block. It sure lit up, that cylinder had spark.

    Drats... I really thought that the coil went, but it still has spark
    to the distributor cap. I dumped a bit of fuel down the throttle. No
    difference. Cranks just fine, but it won't even pop as if it were
    trying to catch; not even on one cylinder.

    I guess I'll try again in the morning. Any ideas? How ironic that I
    get stumped like this, after posting a couple of times today how old
    cars are so much easier to work on... LOL. Thanks in advance.

    How many miles on the timing chain ? Put a timing light on it and see
    when the spark occurs .


    Thanks all. I considered timing after I went to bed. Same issue in the morning when cranking. Late this afternoon, I came back to tear into
    it, but it fired right up, how odd.

    I pulled each spark plug afterward, and they weren't bad looking. I
    sanded them down, checked the gap to about .035. I also took a brass
    wire brush to the contacts inside of the distributor cap. All in all,
    it's actually running a bit more smoothly than before. Plugs are wires
    didn't look too old.

    I'll be in for a carburetor rebuild not too long from now. Probably a
    fuel filter also. It starts to die when you first get into the
    throttle, unless you feather it. It was sitting in a garage for
    decades. I guess the last guy did a quick tuneup and got bored.

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