I'm buying tires at SimpleTire and the default sort is "recommended" but other options are "highest to lowest" and "lowest to highest" choices.
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current philosophy is that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set), then you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
Hence I sort tires online by spec first, not by price nor by brand.
1. It has to fit (for example, P225/75R15 if buying for all four wheels)
2. It has to be right (for example, All-Season, load range 102S or better)
3. It has to be good (for example, TRACTION=AA TREADWEAR=500 TEMPERATURE=A)
I know people who buy by warranty, which means that what they care about isn't the price performance qualities of the tire itself since warranty is
an artificial marketing component of the tire sale.
Others will tell you that they buy the most well advertised brand (for example, Michelin or GoodYear) but they usually don't even know WHERE their tires are built (Indonesia for example) before that brand is stamped on the tires (the point being that multiple brands are the same exact tire in many cases).
And yet, others buy by price, but from highest to lowest, and they're often the same people claiming that "you get what you pay for" which is never correct (you get what others set the price at which is almost always a function of brand marketing and almost never of quality in tires).
In the end, the price is a function of the basics:
A. The cost of the tire (for example, $100/tire)
B. The cost of sales tax (for example 10%)
C. The cost of shipping (for example $15/tire)
D. The cost of mounting/balancing/valves/disposal (for example $20/wheel)
While any online tire seller (Tire Rack, Simple Tire, Carid, etc.) will ship directly to the tire mounting shop, I mount/balance my own so I save on a
few things (e.g., SimpleTire doesn't charge for shipping and dynamic balance DIY tests are free, or if you don't trust your own dynamic balance tests, I think Costco will check the dynamic balance for $5/tire last I asked and
they will dispose of old tires for $1/tire plus local sales tax).
Anyway, I was just shopping for tires and wondered why the default sort
order is what it is, given the default should be lowest-to-highest within spec, in my humble opinion.
What's your humble opinion?
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
(Maybe I can learn something from your experience and acumen.)
On 12/9/21 4:32 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
I'm buying tires at SimpleTire and the default sort is "recommended" butFor the first tire replacement on a purchased-new vehicle, I usually
other options are "highest to lowest" and "lowest to highest" choices.
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current
philosophy is
that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set),
then
you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are
almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
Hence I sort tires online by spec first, not by price nor by brand.
1. It has to fit (for example, P225/75R15 if buying for all four wheels)
2. It has to be right (for example, All-Season, load range 102S or
better)
3. It has to be good (for example, TRACTION=AA TREADWEAR=500
TEMPERATURE=A)
I know people who buy by warranty, which means that what they care about
isn't the price performance qualities of the tire itself since
warranty is
an artificial marketing component of the tire sale.
Others will tell you that they buy the most well advertised brand (for
example, Michelin or GoodYear) but they usually don't even know WHERE
their
tires are built (Indonesia for example) before that brand is stamped
on the
tires (the point being that multiple brands are the same exact tire in
many
cases).
And yet, others buy by price, but from highest to lowest, and they're
often
the same people claiming that "you get what you pay for" which is never
correct (you get what others set the price at which is almost always a
function of brand marketing and almost never of quality in tires).
In the end, the price is a function of the basics:
A. The cost of the tire (for example, $100/tire)
B. The cost of sales tax (for example 10%)
C. The cost of shipping (for example $15/tire)
D. The cost of mounting/balancing/valves/disposal (for example $20/wheel)
While any online tire seller (Tire Rack, Simple Tire, Carid, etc.)
will ship
directly to the tire mounting shop, I mount/balance my own so I save on a
few things (e.g., SimpleTire doesn't charge for shipping and dynamic
balance
DIY tests are free, or if you don't trust your own dynamic balance
tests, I
think Costco will check the dynamic balance for $5/tire last I asked and
they will dispose of old tires for $1/tire plus local sales tax).
Anyway, I was just shopping for tires and wondered why the default sort
order is what it is, given the default should be lowest-to-highest within
spec, in my humble opinion.
What's your humble opinion?
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
(Maybe I can learn something from your experience and acumen.)
install the same ones that the manufacturer supplied. Of course that
assumes I liked how they handled and gave reasonable tread life.
On 12/9/21 4:32 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
I'm buying tires at SimpleTire and the default sort is "recommended" butFor the first tire replacement on a purchased-new vehicle, I usually
other options are "highest to lowest" and "lowest to highest" choices.
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current philosophy is >> that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set), then >> you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are
almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
Hence I sort tires online by spec first, not by price nor by brand.
1. It has to fit (for example, P225/75R15 if buying for all four wheels)
2. It has to be right (for example, All-Season, load range 102S or better) >> 3. It has to be good (for example, TRACTION=AA TREADWEAR=500 TEMPERATURE=A) >>
I know people who buy by warranty, which means that what they care about
isn't the price performance qualities of the tire itself since warranty is >> an artificial marketing component of the tire sale.
Others will tell you that they buy the most well advertised brand (for
example, Michelin or GoodYear) but they usually don't even know WHERE their >> tires are built (Indonesia for example) before that brand is stamped on the >> tires (the point being that multiple brands are the same exact tire in many >> cases).
And yet, others buy by price, but from highest to lowest, and they're often >> the same people claiming that "you get what you pay for" which is never
correct (you get what others set the price at which is almost always a
function of brand marketing and almost never of quality in tires).
In the end, the price is a function of the basics:
A. The cost of the tire (for example, $100/tire)
B. The cost of sales tax (for example 10%)
C. The cost of shipping (for example $15/tire)
D. The cost of mounting/balancing/valves/disposal (for example $20/wheel)
While any online tire seller (Tire Rack, Simple Tire, Carid, etc.) will ship >> directly to the tire mounting shop, I mount/balance my own so I save on a
few things (e.g., SimpleTire doesn't charge for shipping and dynamic balance >> DIY tests are free, or if you don't trust your own dynamic balance tests, I >> think Costco will check the dynamic balance for $5/tire last I asked and
they will dispose of old tires for $1/tire plus local sales tax).
Anyway, I was just shopping for tires and wondered why the default sort
order is what it is, given the default should be lowest-to-highest within
spec, in my humble opinion.
What's your humble opinion?
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
(Maybe I can learn something from your experience and acumen.)
install the same ones that the manufacturer supplied. Of course that
assumes I liked how they handled and gave reasonable tread life.
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
On 2021-12-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
i don't.
support your local community by not buying them online. i've been using Cooper tires purchased from the same locally owned family business for
the last 30 years. that kind of loyalty, when you walk into a business
and they treat you like part of the family, really pays off well when
you need something in a pinch.
what happens when you purchase tires online and find out one is
defective after the tires are mounted and driven on? defects happen,
nothing is perfect. yeah, good luck getting that straightened out.
I'm buying tires at SimpleTire and the default sort is "recommended" but other options are "highest to lowest" and "lowest to highest" choices.
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current philosophy is that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set), then you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
On 12/9/2021 16:32, Andy Burnelli wrote:
I).
Depends on the car. I own a lot of cars. If a decent vehicle, I'll try
to not buy the cheapest brand. Most Walmart tires are not recommended.
I'd prefer to go to a local shop to get tires and keep the money in my local economy.
On 12/10/21 9:02 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 12/9/2021 16:32, Andy Burnelli wrote:
I).
Depends on the car. I own a lot of cars. If a decent vehicle, I'll
try to not buy the cheapest brand. Most Walmart tires are not
recommended. I'd prefer to go to a local shop to get tires and keep
the money in my local economy.
What's the problem with Walmart tires?
They sell many of the same brands other tire retailers do-- and since
they order them six or seven bazillion at a time, the tire manufacturers
give them a good price- which is why they can give you the same.
...And don't tell me that Michelin and Goodyear, etc., send Wally their rejects and Walmart-only special models poorly made with cheap materials...
I look at Tirerack reviews for a reviewer driving the same car
On 12/11/2021 7:37, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 12/10/21 9:02 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 12/9/2021 16:32, Andy Burnelli wrote:
I).
Depends on the car. I own a lot of cars. If a decent vehicle, I'll
try to not buy the cheapest brand. Most Walmart tires are not
recommended. I'd prefer to go to a local shop to get tires and keep
the money in my local economy.
What's the problem with Walmart tires?
They sell many of the same brands other tire retailers do-- and since
they order them six or seven bazillion at a time, the tire manufacturers
give them a good price- which is why they can give you the same.
Don't people only go to Walmart for cheap stuff? I've never bought
their tires, but I've owned a couple cars where people bought Walmart tires. They are usually not very good. I guess that depends on the brand.
...And don't tell me that Michelin and Goodyear, etc., send Wally their
rejects and Walmart-only special models poorly made with cheap
materials...
That isn't what I was going to say, but you bring up an excellent point.
Walmart cuts deals with name-brand manufacturers to get their products cheaper. This is well known.
There was a documentary made about Snapper mowers that stood up to
Walmart, and said they wouldn't sell a cheaper version of their mower to
make a ton of money retailing them at Walmart stores.
Unfortunately, someone later bought the Snapper brand, and they
immediately caved into corporate pressure. You now find cheap Snapper mowers at Walmart, that are not quality -- they only retain the old name.
--------------------
From an example article online:
"*Walmart is well known for demanding lower prices from manufacturers
each year. In order to meet low prices, manufacturers can use lower
quality components, use marginally failing devices, or remove some
features. In many cases, the SKUs at different stores are different."
On 12/12/21 12:03 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
Walmart cuts deals with name-brand manufacturers to get their
products cheaper. This is well known.
There was a documentary made about Snapper mowers that stood up to
Walmart, and said they wouldn't sell a cheaper version of their mower
to make a ton of money retailing them at Walmart stores.
Unfortunately, someone later bought the Snapper brand, and they
immediately caved into corporate pressure. You now find cheap Snapper
mowers at Walmart, that are not quality -- they only retain the old name.
--------------------
From an example article online:
"*Walmart is well known for demanding lower prices from manufacturers
each year. In order to meet low prices, manufacturers can use lower
quality components, use marginally failing devices, or remove some
features. In many cases, the SKUs at different stores are different."
Yeah, some owners aren't concerned about the image slide that occurs
from selling a cheap version of their brand. I'd think it would mostly
be done by investment/financial firms that buy a brand, milk it dry,
then flip it- not caring about the damage done to a household name
that's been around for 50-100 years.
What you said about Walmart squeezing vendors (as many other companies
do as well) is true. I used to regularly visit a client in Rogers,
Arkansas- flying into Fayetteville, AR which is just down the road from Bentonville.
Half the guys on the plane were salesmen and account managers heading to Walmart headquarters. Seatmate conversation frequently centered around
how they were getting beaten up and price-squeezed and thinking about
whether it was time to pull the plug.
I'm a sentimental person to boot, and it's quite unfortunate, but what
can you do? There aren't many brands that I buy for the name anymore.
I regularly buy old appliances and tools that were built to last second
hand. I no longer shop at Walmart either.
There was a documentary made about Snapper mowers that stood up to
Walmart, and said they wouldn't sell a cheaper version of their mower to
make a ton of money retailing them at Walmart stores.
Unfortunately, someone later bought the Snapper brand, and they
immediately caved into corporate pressure. You now find cheap Snapper
mowers at Walmart, that are not quality -- they only retain the old name.
On 12/10/2021 10:48 AM, fos wrote:
On 2021-12-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
How do YOU choose a set of new tires when you order them online?
i don't.
support your local community by not buying them online. i've been using
Cooper tires purchased from the same locally owned family business for
the last 30 years. that kind of loyalty, when you walk into a business
and they treat you like part of the family, really pays off well when
you need something in a pinch.
what happens when you purchase tires online and find out one is
defective after the tires are mounted and driven on? defects happen,
nothing is perfect. yeah, good luck getting that straightened out.
The local shop where I buy is usually within $5 per tire of online
source prices.
On 2021-12-12, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
There was a documentary made about Snapper mowers that stood up to
Walmart, and said they wouldn't sell a cheaper version of their mower to
make a ton of money retailing them at Walmart stores.
Unfortunately, someone later bought the Snapper brand, and they
immediately caved into corporate pressure. You now find cheap Snapper
mowers at Walmart, that are not quality -- they only retain the old name.
Snapper was bought by Simplicity and Briggs and Stratton bought
Simplicity not long after that. I'm pretty sure it was Briggs and Stratton that caved and put Snapper mowers on Walmart shelves.
i refuse to even purchase power equipment at big box stores such as Home Depot and Lowes. That equipment suffers from the same thing as equipment
at Walmart, it's made cheaper.
riding mowers for example.
back to tires, or anything auto related, at walmart. the tire shop i use
and the collision shop down the street from them both say they see vehicles with loose wheels or damaged vehicles from improperly tightened lug nuts on vehicles serviced by walmart several times a year. i can't vouch for
whether walmart has lower gradetires as i've never compared specs, but if i did ever buy tires from there, i sure as hell would not have them
mounted and balanced there based on their crappy reputation alone. if
you ever do, check the lug nuts for proper torque.
On 12/13/2021 9:02, fos wrote:
i refuse to even purchase power equipment at big box stores such as Home
Depot and Lowes. That equipment suffers from the same thing as equipment
at Walmart, it's made cheaper.
riding mowers for example.
Agreed, my father has been through a few cheap big box riding mowers in
past years. I have a 1975 Wheelhouse that keeps chugging along.
I tried to take an '83 F150 to Walmart to have a new valve stem put on.
Truck has a 3 on the tree. Not one of the guys working there knew how
to drive it up on the rack. They asked me to do it. Whatever, I'd
prefer that over them breaking the linkage or whatever.
On 2021-12-13, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/13/2021 9:02, fos wrote:
i refuse to even purchase power equipment at big box stores such as Home >>> Depot and Lowes. That equipment suffers from the same thing as equipment >>> at Walmart, it's made cheaper.
riding mowers for example.
Agreed, my father has been through a few cheap big box riding mowers in
past years. I have a 1975 Wheelhouse that keeps chugging along.
i have a 1985 Ford snow blower. and just picked up a late 70's Sears
chipper shredder off craigslist that needed a carb rebuild and now runs great. both still have many years left in them.
I tried to take an '83 F150 to Walmart to have a new valve stem put on.
Truck has a 3 on the tree. Not one of the guys working there knew how
to drive it up on the rack. They asked me to do it. Whatever, I'd
prefer that over them breaking the linkage or whatever.
the only way i'd ever have service done at a Walmart would be if i was
on the road far from home, and on a sunday when in many places it'd be
the only place open for business.
On 12/15/2021 8:14, fos wrote:
i have a 1985 Ford snow blower. and just picked up a late 70's Sears
chipper shredder off craigslist that needed a carb rebuild and now runs
great. both still have many years left in them.
Yes, the old stuff just goes on and on. I have a 70's JcPenney brand (Penncraft?) 1100 watt generator that I paid $40 for from Craigslist,
and it works well to keep the fridge, DSL modem, and a light on if the
power goes out.
I picked up a Gilson late 60's front tine tiller from the original owner (with original manual) last spring for a similar price to turn over a
small plot of soil. I had to pick the soil first, but that's a really
nice little machine.
People, don't piss away good money on department or big box store power equipment. That deal you think you're getting is 5 year recycle bin scrap,
if even that long. Invest in quality products from knowledgeable and reputable dealers, maintain them well, and they'll last you nearly a lifetime.
On 12/18/2021 07:23 PM, fos wrote:
People, don't piss away good money on department or big box store power
equipment. That deal you think you're getting is 5 year recycle bin scrap, >> if even that long. Invest in quality products from knowledgeable and
reputable dealers, maintain them well, and they'll last you nearly a
lifetime.
Haunt the estate sales. I bought a new Craftsman 10mm socket maybe 10
years ago and I peeled some of the chrome off with my thumbnail.
On 2021-12-15, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/15/2021 8:14, fos wrote:
i have a 1985 Ford snow blower. and just picked up a late 70's Sears
chipper shredder off craigslist that needed a carb rebuild and now runs
great. both still have many years left in them.
Yes, the old stuff just goes on and on. I have a 70's JcPenney brand
(Penncraft?) 1100 watt generator that I paid $40 for from Craigslist,
and it works well to keep the fridge, DSL modem, and a light on if the
power goes out.
I picked up a Gilson late 60's front tine tiller from the original owner
(with original manual) last spring for a similar price to turn over a
small plot of soil. I had to pick the soil first, but that's a really
nice little machine.
Ha. We can do this all week it seems. I forgot the 1980 Ariens front
tine tiller I picked up a couple years ago from a retired guy who bought
it new. Came with the manuals and original sales receipt. I've worked
the hell out it tearing up several hundred square feet of sod and dug
down at least a foot, in rocky soil, for garden beds and it doesn't skip
a beat. Local power equipment dealer told me Ariens is great at keeping
track of parts for old equipment like that and getting any common wear components for it are available.
Everything else is much newer. Generator, Briggs, bought new in 2006.
Rarely use it but don't want to be without it. Change the oil, and drain
& replace the fuel annually, and it always starts on the first or second pull. Push mower, Exmark commercial mower, Kawasaki engine, 2010. Weed
eater, sidewalk edger, leaf blower, and chainsaw, Stihl, all the lower
end models of the pro series, not the homeowner series, 1 per year for
the last 4 years.
People, don't piss away good money on department or big box store power equipment.
On 2021-12-19, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/18/2021 07:23 PM, fos wrote:
People, don't piss away good money on department or big box store power
equipment. That deal you think you're getting is 5 year recycle bin scrap, >>> if even that long. Invest in quality products from knowledgeable and
reputable dealers, maintain them well, and they'll last you nearly a
lifetime.
Haunt the estate sales. I bought a new Craftsman 10mm socket maybe 10
years ago and I peeled some of the chrome off with my thumbnail.
Bought my first Craftsman tool set when I was but a wee young lad in the
late 70's. The ratchets that came with that set were indestructible. I
still have the severely abused 3/8 drive ratchet that came with that set
and it has never been rebuilt.
The 1/2 drive ratchet I left setting in an engine compartment in the
late 80's and I'm sure it's still decomposing into iron oxide on the side
of a frequently traveled road. That motherfucker was much more severely abused than the 3/8 ratchet. I have a 30 inch piece of pipe leverage
extender I used on that 1/2 inch Craftsman ratchet to break either nuts
and bolts loose or failing that, break sockets, including impact sockets.
I was a broke ass bitch back then, had to make do with what I could get
my hands on. I've stood and bounced on that ratchet with the 24 inch lever extender attached and it never winced. I really miss that ratchet. I've broken 3 1/2 inch Craftsman breaker bars with the same leverage extender since.
SIDE NOTE: I do NOT put ethanol fuel into ANY of these small engines.
Not even into my cheap spare power mower that gets used for a rocky part
of the lawn and thrown into the truck to be taken elsewhere. I drive an
hour away to buy at least 5 gallons of ethanol free 90 octane fuel twice
per season for all of the small engines.
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current philosophy is >that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set), then >you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are >almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
It got me wondering...
Who sorts a set of 4 tires by price high to low? Or by brand?
My father would sort by price. He would always buy the cheapest possible tires. It's a wonder he wasn't killed on the highway as a result, too.
I will sort by brand, because in general once I find a tire I like, I will stick with that particular model of tire, or the successor to that model,
as long as possible.
I'm 75 and have replaced my tires for decades where my current philosophy is >>that (a) tires are tires, and (if you're replacing all four as a set), then >>you (b) you buy that set by the spec and finally, (c), if the specs are >>almost or exactly the same, then you decide by price (lower is better).
Tires are not tires. Find a set you like, then keep buying them. Someday they will be discontinued and then you will have an adventure. Put that off as long as possible.
Specs are nice, but two tires with the same numbers on the website may feel totally different on your car.
On 12/20/2021 03:34 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Tires are not tires. Find a set you like, then keep buying them. Someday
they will be discontinued and then you will have an adventure. Put
that off
as long as possible.
Especially if you buy from the Cadillac dealer. The bastard sold my mom
a set of obsolete/discontinued Bridgestones for a premium price and then refused to replace them when the bubbles formed, sending us to the Bridgestone dealer -- who replaced them at no charge, which is what the
damn dealer should have done. Bastard went belly-up a few years later :-)
Never had that trouble with any of the cheap tires I ever bought at Pep
Boys or America's/Discount Tire.
Specs are nice, but two tires with the same numbers on the website may
feel
totally different on your car.
And a good alignment can make a world of difference too.
On 12/20/2021 23:49, The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/20/2021 03:34 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Tires are not tires. Find a set you like, then keep buying them. Someday >>> they will be discontinued and then you will have an adventure. Put
that off
as long as possible.
Especially if you buy from the Cadillac dealer. The bastard sold my mom
a set of obsolete/discontinued Bridgestones for a premium price and then
refused to replace them when the bubbles formed, sending us to the
Bridgestone dealer -- who replaced them at no charge, which is what the
damn dealer should have done. Bastard went belly-up a few years later :-)
Never had that trouble with any of the cheap tires I ever bought at Pep
Boys or America's/Discount Tire.
Specs are nice, but two tires with the same numbers on the website may
feel totally different on your car.
And a good alignment can make a world of difference too.
Especially if your car is very out of line. I had a set of very worn
tires on a car, and I did not align it when I put new tires on. I put
off the alignment, even though it was pulling. Long story short, I
trashed the new front tires in short of 10,000 miles, and had to buy two
new ones then got the alignment (first new tie rod ends).
On 12/22/2021 10:24 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 12/20/2021 23:49, The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/20/2021 03:34 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Tires are not tires. Find a set you like, then keep buying them. Someday >>>> they will be discontinued and then you will have an adventure. Put
that off
as long as possible.
Especially if you buy from the Cadillac dealer. The bastard sold my mom
a set of obsolete/discontinued Bridgestones for a premium price and then >>> refused to replace them when the bubbles formed, sending us to the
Bridgestone dealer -- who replaced them at no charge, which is what the
damn dealer should have done. Bastard went belly-up a few years later :-) >>>
Never had that trouble with any of the cheap tires I ever bought at Pep
Boys or America's/Discount Tire.
Specs are nice, but two tires with the same numbers on the website may >>>> feel totally different on your car.
And a good alignment can make a world of difference too.
Especially if your car is very out of line. I had a set of very worn
tires on a car, and I did not align it when I put new tires on. I put
off the alignment, even though it was pulling. Long story short, I
trashed the new front tires in short of 10,000 miles, and had to buy two
new ones then got the alignment (first new tie rod ends).
It's a real bitch finding someone who can do a proper alignment on a
1970 Dodge pickup. The race people (now out of business) said Sure we
can do it, but they didn't. I found an old guy in a neighboring town
who did it by hand while I watched and chatted, and it was like a
miracle. I could have even used a 4-turn steering wheel instead of the 7-turn-lock-to-lock original!
On 12/22/2021 10:24 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 12/20/2021 23:49, The Real Bev wrote:
On 12/20/2021 03:34 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Tires are not tires. Find a set you like, then keep buying them.
Someday
they will be discontinued and then you will have an adventure. Put
that off
as long as possible.
Especially if you buy from the Cadillac dealer. The bastard sold my mom
a set of obsolete/discontinued Bridgestones for a premium price and then >>> refused to replace them when the bubbles formed, sending us to the
Bridgestone dealer -- who replaced them at no charge, which is what the
damn dealer should have done. Bastard went belly-up a few years later
:-)
Never had that trouble with any of the cheap tires I ever bought at Pep
Boys or America's/Discount Tire.
Specs are nice, but two tires with the same numbers on the website may >>>> feel totally different on your car.
And a good alignment can make a world of difference too.
Especially if your car is very out of line. I had a set of very worn
tires on a car, and I did not align it when I put new tires on. I put
off the alignment, even though it was pulling. Long story short, I
trashed the new front tires in short of 10,000 miles, and had to buy two
new ones then got the alignment (first new tie rod ends).
It's a real bitch finding someone who can do a proper alignment on a
1970 Dodge pickup. The race people (now out of business) said Sure we
can do it, but they didn't. I found an old guy in a neighboring town who
did it by hand while I watched and chatted, and it was like a miracle. I could have even used a 4-turn steering wheel instead of the 7-turn-lock-to-lock original!
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