• keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 25 21:53:01 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the
    opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to
    search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at
    sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Sep 25 21:08:35 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 9/25/2021 6:53 PM, micky wrote:
    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to
    search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at sundown, on a day like today.


    Have you tried searching for "2005 Toyota Solara visor swings in turns".

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Sep 26 14:26:33 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to
    search for a product that does that.)

    Loctite has a variety of products that do that.

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Charlie+@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 26 07:16:12 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 21:53:01 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote
    as underneath :

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the fitting a bit. Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into the vertical
    bearing C+

    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the >opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to
    search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space >between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 26 09:51:45 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 14:26:33 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to charlie@xxx.net on Mon Sep 27 16:50:55 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the fitting a bit.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn >>left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the >>opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to >>search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space >>between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it. >>Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop >>this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >>sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 09:39:57 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 09:40:52 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 17:13:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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  • From Charlie+@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Tue Sep 28 08:02:10 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote as underneath :

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the
    fitting a bit.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    Yep! All expensive! C+

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  • From Ali Baba@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Sep 28 06:25:20 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 9/25/21 9:53 PM, micky wrote:
    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.


    A democrat, who truly believes in saving the planet, would buy a new Chang li Explorer 4 seat 4 wheel electric car that doesn't contribute to climate change.

    Only $2195.00

    https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Electric-Car-Electric-Electric-Car-New_1600157153717.html


    And if $2195 is too rich for you, maybe obama's boy will have a cash-for-clunkers program soon.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Ali Baba on Tue Sep 28 12:45:30 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 9/28/2021 6:25 AM, Ali Baba wrote:
    that doesn't contribute to climate change.

    Sure they do. Electricity doesn't just appear by magic.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Wed Sep 29 16:35:12 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit. There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction. Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???

    Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia. Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what
    such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is
    the same as tan. A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.



    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn >>>left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the >>>opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to >>>search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space >>>between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it. >>>Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop >>>this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >>>sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to Xeno on Wed Sep 29 22:11:29 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 9/29/2021 9:25 PM, Xeno wrote:
    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it
    up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out
    the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit.  There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually manufactured
    of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a friction surface
    or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing indented location. Once
    upon a time, it was possible to *tighten* these through provision of a
    screw. These are no longer extant, certainly not in my Toyota nor any
    car I have had in the past 30+ years. Some vehicles had a replaceable friction sleeve, like this one from a Citroen; https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html

    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours has
    lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such, needs
    to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction.  Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
        Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the >> US and Australia.  Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled    increase friction    and    liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree of functionality to it.


    How about taking it out, lay it on the ground and smack with a hammer?
    Distort it enough to get friction.

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  • From Xeno@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Sep 30 11:25:31 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a >>> bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the >>> fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit. There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually manufactured
    of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a friction surface
    or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing indented location. Once
    upon a time, it was possible to *tighten* these through provision of a
    screw. These are no longer extant, certainly not in my Toyota nor any
    car I have had in the past 30+ years. Some vehicles had a replaceable
    friction sleeve, like this one from a Citroen; https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html
    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours has
    lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such, needs
    to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction. Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???

    Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia. Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree of functionality to it.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what
    such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is
    the same as tan. A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.

    Ivory is *not* the same as tan. Tan is a distinct brown hue whereas
    ivory is tending towards pink. Of course, if the car is an old dunger,
    does it really matter if the colour isn't a perfect match? For safety
    reasons, you *need* the functionality. BTW, if you forage through the
    wrecking yards for a used one, you can readily *assess* the
    serviceability of the friction bearing on any you come across so what is
    the issue with hunting up a used visor?



    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn >>>> left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the
    opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to >>>> search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space >>>> between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it. >>>> Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop >>>> this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >>>> sundown, on a day like today.



    --

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Wed Sep 29 23:22:16 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 9/29/2021 10:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    On 9/29/2021 9:25 PM, Xeno wrote:
    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it
    up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding
    out the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit.  There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what >>> I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually
    manufactured of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a
    friction surface or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing
    indented location. Once upon a time, it was possible to *tighten*
    these through provision of a screw. These are no longer extant,
    certainly not in my Toyota nor any car I have had in the past 30+
    years. Some vehicles had a replaceable friction sleeve, like this one
    from a Citroen;
    https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html

    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours
    has lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such,
    needs to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction.  Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
        Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the >>> US and Australia.  Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled    increase friction    and    liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree
    of functionality to it.


    How about taking it out, lay it on the ground and smack with a hammer? Distort it enough to get friction.

    Or squeeze it. Hard to argue with a hammer in most cases.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Sep 30 17:10:51 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up a >>> bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out the >>> fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit. There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction. Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???

    Fraid not, someone said that in a usenet group when the Loctite
    came up. I never had a need for that myself, I just remembered
    the comment. I agree, the Loctite web site is fucked.

    Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia. Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    It isn't a liquid once it sets, that is likely the problem.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what
    such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is
    the same as tan. A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.

    Not necessarily. One that doesn't get used much
    may well be fine with a decent brand like Toyota.

    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn >>>>left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the >>>>opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to >>>>search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much space >>>>between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it. >>>>Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to stop >>>>this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >>>>sundown, on a day like today.


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  • From Xeno@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Thu Sep 30 16:46:40 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 30/9/21 12:11 pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    On 9/29/2021 9:25 PM, Xeno wrote:
    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it
    up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding
    out the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit.  There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what >>> I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually
    manufactured of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a
    friction surface or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing
    indented location. Once upon a time, it was possible to *tighten*
    these through provision of a screw. These are no longer extant,
    certainly not in my Toyota nor any car I have had in the past 30+
    years. Some vehicles had a replaceable friction sleeve, like this one
    from a Citroen;
    https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html

    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours
    has lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such,
    needs to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction.  Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
        Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the >>> US and Australia.  Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled    increase friction    and    liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree
    of functionality to it.


    How about taking it out, lay it on the ground and smack with a hammer? Distort it enough to get friction.

    Depends on the internal arrangement. They also may not distort as easily
    as you think.
    --

    Xeno


    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Xeno on Thu Sep 30 17:02:42 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:irki0dF1gteU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it up >>>> a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding out
    the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit. There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually manufactured
    of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a friction surface
    or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing indented location. Once upon
    a time, it was possible to *tighten* these through provision of a screw. These are no longer extant, certainly not in my Toyota nor any car I have
    had in the past 30+ years. Some vehicles had a replaceable friction
    sleeve, like this one from a Citroen; https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html
    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours has
    lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such, needs to
    be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction. Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
    Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia. Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree of functionality to it.

    Its only liquid till it sets with the friction increase loctites.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what
    such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is
    the same as tan. A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.

    Ivory is *not* the same as tan. Tan is a distinct brown hue whereas ivory
    is tending towards pink. Of course, if the car is an old dunger, does it really matter if the colour isn't a perfect match? For safety reasons, you *need* the functionality. BTW, if you forage through the wrecking yards
    for a used one, you can readily *assess* the serviceability of the
    friction bearing on any you come across so what is the issue with hunting
    up a used visor?



    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I turn >>>>> left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's the >>>>> opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want to >>>>> search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much
    space
    between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in it. >>>>> Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to
    stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north at >>>>> sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From Xeno@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Thu Sep 30 18:15:07 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 30/9/21 5:02 pm, Rod Speed wrote:


    "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:irki0dF1gteU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 30/9/21 6:35 am, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it
    up a
    bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding
    out the
    fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit.  There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not what >>> I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually
    manufactured of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a
    friction surface or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing
    indented location. Once upon a time, it was possible to *tighten*
    these through provision of a screw. These are no longer extant,
    certainly not in my Toyota nor any car I have had in the past 30+
    years. Some vehicles had a replaceable friction sleeve, like this one
    from a Citroen;
    https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html

    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours
    has lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such,
    needs to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction.  Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
      Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia.  Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled    increase friction    and    liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree
    of functionality to it.

    Its only liquid till it sets with the friction increase loctites.

    Understand but getting the liquid into where it is needed, much less
    spreading it around a little, is the difficult part. I had a look at my
    Toyota visor and I couldn't see how I could easily get anything in where
    it is needed. The friction device isn't necessarily right out near the
    end of the support rod and could even be at the inner end but far away
    from the rod access point. Used would be the way to go if new is $200+.

    Charlie, do you know one?  Even if it's expensive**.   Do you know what >>> such a thing is called, some special terms.  (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is
    the same as tan.   A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.

    Ivory is *not* the same as tan. Tan is a distinct brown hue whereas
    ivory is tending towards pink. Of course, if the car is an old dunger,
    does it really matter if the colour isn't a perfect match? For safety
    reasons, you *need* the functionality. BTW, if you forage through the
    wrecking yards for a used one, you can readily *assess* the
    serviceability of the friction bearing on any you come across so what
    is the issue with hunting up a used visor?



    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I
    turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite.  What's the >>>>>> opposite of oiling called?  (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-)  I
    want to
    search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much >>>>>> space
    between the tube and what surrounds it.   Can't stick a zip-tie in >>>>>> it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to >>>>>> stop
    this?  (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or
    north at
    sundown, on a day like today.




    --

    Xeno


    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Charlie+@21:1/5 to micky on Thu Sep 30 08:20:36 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:35:12 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote
    as underneath :

    snip
    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction
    and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what
    such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )

    There was something called KILOPOISE, clear, sticky as hell but never
    sets, we used to use it sometimes in our scientific instruments in the
    1960s when we used to make real stuff here in the UK! C+

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 10:17:34 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:02:42 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

    <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 10:18:35 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:10:51 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
    Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Xeno on Thu Sep 30 19:47:14 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    micky wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Charlie+ <charlie@xxx.net> wrote
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote

    Probably a plastic sleeve bearing , quick fix would be to tigten it >>>>>> up a bit by stuffing a plastic or wood shaving up the bearing padding >>>>>> out the fitting a bit.

    It's a perfect fit. There's no room to stuff anything in. It's not
    what
    I'd call a bearing, it's just a hole in the plastic.

    What the sunvisor has is a special friction bearing usually manufactured >>> of a nylon like substance (Delrin?). They have either a friction surface >>> or two or a pair of ribbed surfaces providing indented location. Once
    upon a time, it was possible to *tighten* these through provision of a
    screw. These are no longer extant, certainly not in my Toyota nor any
    car I have had in the past 30+ years. Some vehicles had a replaceable
    friction sleeve, like this one from a Citroen;
    https://ds-sassen.de/onlineshop/gb/sky-for-roof/854-friction-sleeve-for-sun-visor.html
    If yours is a cheaper run-of-the-mill car like mine, you're shit outta
    luck finding any such *user serviceable part*. Given that, if yours has
    lost friction, then it is either broken or worn out and, as such, needs
    to be replaced to restore functionality.

    Or if you never want it to move again then wick some
    superglue or Loctite (as another poster suggests) into
    the vertical bearing C+

    There isn't just one Loctite, some just increase the friction,

    I looked at the Loctite page and didn't see anything to increase
    friction. Do you know what it is called, or used to be called???
    Loctite has separate sections for different countries including the
    US and Australia. Also consumer and industrial.


    I also googled increase friction and liquid increase friction >>>> and got technical pages about friction in general but no products.

    Don't bother. If your friction bearing in the visor is not gripping as
    it should, rest assured a *liquid* is not going to restore any degree of >>> functionality to it.

    Its only liquid till it sets with the friction increase loctites.

    Understand but getting the liquid into where it is needed, much less spreading it around a little, is the difficult part.

    Nope, that’s why its liquid initially. Same approach is used with glues.

    I had a look at my Toyota visor and I couldn't see how I could easily get anything in where it is needed.

    Trivial if its liquid initially.

    The friction device isn't necessarily right out near the end of the
    support rod and could even be at the inner end but far away from the rod access point.

    There isn't necessarily any friction device, just
    the metal rod rotating inside a cylinder.

    Used would be the way to go if new is $200+.

    Yep.

    Charlie, do you know one? Even if it's expensive**. Do you know what >>>> such a thing is called, some special terms. (I presume C+ is your
    signature and not a product. )


    **A new sunvisor is $205 and they don't have my color, unless ivory is >>>> the same as tan. A used sunvisor will likely have the same problem.

    Ivory is *not* the same as tan. Tan is a distinct brown hue whereas
    ivory is tending towards pink. Of course, if the car is an old dunger,
    does it really matter if the colour isn't a perfect match? For safety
    reasons, you *need* the functionality. BTW, if you forage through the
    wrecking yards for a used one, you can readily *assess* the
    serviceability of the friction bearing on any you come across so what is >>> the issue with hunting up a used visor?



    How would you keep a sunvisor from swinging to the side?

    When mine, a 2005 Toyota Solara, is against the left window and I >>>>>>> turn
    left, it heads for my head and I have to keep pushing it back.

    It's easy to oil something but I want to do the opposite. What's >>>>>>> the
    opposite of oiling called? (Not de-oiling or unoiling. :-) I want >>>>>>> to
    search for a product that does that.)

    I havent' taken the visor out yet, but I dont' think there is much >>>>>>> space
    between the tube and what surrounds it. Can't stick a zip-tie in >>>>>>> it.
    Maybe pouring talcum powder on the pipe will be abrasive enough to >>>>>>> stop
    this? (I'd like to finish the same day I start.)

    I only notice this when driving south early in the morning or north >>>>>>> at
    sundown, on a day like today.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to xenolith@optusnet.com.au on Thu Sep 30 06:43:55 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:15:07 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


    Its only liquid till it sets with the friction increase loctites.

    Understand but getting the liquid into where it is needed, much less >spreading it around a little, is the difficult part. I had a look at my

    Yes, I've definitely thought about that, and I don't know what would
    happen.


    Toyota visor and I couldn't see how I could easily get anything in where
    it is needed. The friction device isn't necessarily right out near the
    end of the support rod and could even be at the inner end but far away
    from the rod access point. Used would be the way to go if new is $200+.

    The trouble is that used is used, and this is a part that wears out.
    Even if the yard doesn't want to sell a bad one, it could be good now
    and bad 5000 miles from now. Plus once it's removed from the car, one
    can't tell how tight the pivot is, and even when it's in the car, one
    can't tell unless he drives it and turns left. And junk yards don't do
    that.

    Plus carparts.com I think it is had several for my model that are black
    or ivory, and several with no color specified -- so I could call each
    one and ask -- but none marked tan. I thought tan was a popular color
    for these car interiors, but maybe not.

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 15:45:47 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:47:14 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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