• Full synthetic oils

    From AK@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 27 14:56:40 2021
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From AK@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Tue Jul 27 16:10:33 2021
    On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 7/27/21 5:56 PM, AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    Open your glove box, remove the owner's manual, open to the chapter
    titled Maintenance, flip to the page headed Oil Change Intervals, read
    what it says, do it. Problem solved.

    --
    Why is it that the people who want more government control over your
    life are the same ones who want you to be disarmed?
    I read the manual. It says use 5w30 oil, but nothing about synthetics.

    Problem not solved.

    Andy

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 27 18:37:00 2021
    On 7/27/21 5:56 PM, AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    Open your glove box, remove the owner's manual, open to the chapter
    titled Maintenance, flip to the page headed Oil Change Intervals, read
    what it says, do it. Problem solved.

    --
    Why is it that the people who want more government control over your
    life are the same ones who want you to be disarmed?

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to scientist77017@gmail.com on Tue Jul 27 23:35:31 2021
    AK <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    That depends on what causes it to fail. Synthetic oils don't break down anywhere near as easily as conventional oils. Modern viscosity improvers
    don't break down as easily either.

    But detergents aren't much better than they used to be, and the ability of
    oil to carry debris and blow-by is no better than it ever was.

    They claim 10K miles.

    If your engine is new and clean and the oil is failing only due to breakdown, that's likely true. If your engine is dirty and a lot of combustion
    byproducts are getting into the oil, it probably isn't.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Has he taken the filter apart and looked inside?
    --scott
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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 27 20:34:10 2021
    AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    2006 Kia Spectra, 98k miles. Wal-Mart full syn.
    I change my oil about every 8k miles and filters every 4k in January.
    I drive at most 4k per year and it does not get cold long enough here to
    worry about condensation. All of my cars have gone 225k miles without
    any major problems.

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  • From Xeno@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Wed Jul 28 12:55:18 2021
    On 28/7/21 11:34 am, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for
    synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
                     Andy

    2006 Kia Spectra, 98k miles.  Wal-Mart full syn.
    I change my oil about every 8k miles and filters every 4k in January.
    I drive at most 4k per year and it does not get cold long enough here to worry about condensation.  All of my cars have gone 225k miles without
    any major problems.

    Given your vehicle use, I would make one change to your schedule - I'd
    change the oil at the same time as the filter, at least *once* per year
    - at a minimum. I do mine twice a year, and the filter at the same time, regardless. You do such a *low* mileage with, I presume, lots of short
    trips, a more frequent oil change definitely won't hurt.

    --

    Xeno


    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Wed Jul 28 08:49:57 2021
    On 7/27/21 9:34 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for
    synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
                     Andy

    2006 Kia Spectra, 98k miles.  Wal-Mart full syn.
    I change my oil about every 8k miles and filters every 4k in January.
    I drive at most 4k per year and it does not get cold long enough here to worry about condensation.  All of my cars have gone 225k miles without
    any major problems.

    225k miles
    <4k miles per year
    56 years to hit 225!!

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 28 09:09:32 2021
    On 7/27/21 7:10 PM, AK wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 5:37:19 PM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 7/27/21 5:56 PM, AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    Open your glove box, remove the owner's manual, open to the chapter
    titled Maintenance, flip to the page headed Oil Change Intervals, read
    what it says, do it. Problem solved.

    --
    Why is it that the people who want more government control over your
    life are the same ones who want you to be disarmed?
    I read the manual. It says use 5w30 oil, but nothing about synthetics.

    Problem not solved.

    Andy

    Actually, it is.

    Just change your oil and filter according to what the manufacturer
    recommends in the owner's manual rather than getting your panties in a
    wad ;-)

    --
    If you look closely enough, you'll see that the high horse you're riding
    on is actually a donkey

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Xeno on Wed Jul 28 23:59:03 2021
    Xeno wrote:
    On 28/7/21 11:34 am, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    AK wrote:
    I use full synthetic oil (non-name brand) and a Fram filter for
    synthetic oil.

    My car has 109K miles.

    At 7K miles, the oil looked pretty dirty, so I had it changed.

    How long can I expect that oil to last?

    They claim 10K miles.

    One person said he changes the filter midway.

    Thanks,
                     Andy

    2006 Kia Spectra, 98k miles.  Wal-Mart full syn.
    I change my oil about every 8k miles and filters every 4k in January.
    I drive at most 4k per year and it does not get cold long enough here
    to worry about condensation.  All of my cars have gone 225k miles
    without any major problems.

    Given your vehicle use, I would make one change to your schedule - I'd
    change the oil at the same time as the filter, at least *once* per year
    - at a minimum. I do mine twice a year, and the filter at the same time, regardless. You do such a *low* mileage with, I presume, lots of short
    trips, a more frequent oil change definitely won't hurt.

    That's a good point. I used to change both oil and filter yearly but
    stopped changing the oil yearly since the oil was always fairly clean.
    But with the wear miles getting up there there will be more combustion
    products in the oil now. I travel quite a bit for my employer but
    usually rent a car locally or fly somewhere and then rent.

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