• 2013 Corolla instrument cluster

    From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 22 11:52:04 2021
    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is
    this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the brightness, but only with the headlights on.

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sat May 22 18:03:58 2021
    On 5/22/21 2:52 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying.  Is
    this normal or is something broken?  One of the little knobs adjusts the brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Sounds like normal function in a car of that age. They should also come
    on with the parking lights.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Sat May 22 23:02:04 2021
    On 05/22/2021 03:03 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 5/22/21 2:52 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is
    this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the
    brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Sounds like normal function in a car of that age. They should also come
    on with the parking lights.

    That age? Older cars (92 Acura, for instance) have instrument lights
    that are on whenever the key is in an ON position!

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Mon May 24 09:35:13 2021
    On 5/23/21 2:02 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 05/22/2021 03:03 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 5/22/21 2:52 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying.  Is
    this normal or is something broken?  One of the little knobs adjusts the >>> brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Sounds like normal function in a car of that age. They should also come
    on with the parking lights.

    That age?  Older cars (92 Acura, for instance) have instrument lights
    that are on whenever the key is in an ON position!

    Sorry, you're right and I apologize. I don't know what I was thinking
    when I posted!

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Mon May 24 08:06:24 2021
    On 05/24/2021 06:35 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 5/23/21 2:02 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 05/22/2021 03:03 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 5/22/21 2:52 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is >>>> this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >>>> brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Sounds like normal function in a car of that age. They should also come
    on with the parking lights.

    That age? Older cars (92 Acura, for instance) have instrument lights
    that are on whenever the key is in an ON position!

    Sorry, you're right and I apologize. I don't know what I was thinking
    when I posted!

    I call those brain farts. Sometimes I have to actually leave the house
    for a while...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to bashley101@gmail.com on Sun Aug 15 17:56:10 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 22 May 2021 11:52:04 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is
    this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Not the same problem but similar effect. My 2005 Toyota Solara clock
    cluster lights, for the clock and 2 or 3 other things, only go on at
    night, even though I can't see what they say during the day time unless
    I'm driving away from the sun. Even with the headlights on. Even
    worse when the top is down. I think it's a mistake in design by
    Toyota.

    Even if I block the light sensor on the dash so that the car thinks it's
    night time, the headlights go on but not these lights.

    I've tried rewiring the dash, but ended up with a little flashlight in
    the console to shine on the LCDs.

    emailed also because it's an old thread.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Aug 15 22:44:57 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 08/15/2021 02:56 PM, micky wrote:
    In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 22 May 2021 11:52:04 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is >>this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >>brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Not the same problem but similar effect. My 2005 Toyota Solara clock
    cluster lights, for the clock and 2 or 3 other things, only go on at
    night, even though I can't see what they say during the day time unless
    I'm driving away from the sun. Even with the headlights on. Even
    worse when the top is down. I think it's a mistake in design by
    Toyota.

    They clearly put all their expertise into reliability, etc. And it
    never occurred to them to make the driver's seat raise up a few more
    inches for us NORMAL people? I'm not even that short, I just want to be higher, especially with the reduced window area so prevalent in cars now!

    Even if I block the light sensor on the dash so that the car thinks it's night time, the headlights go on but not these lights.

    I've tried rewiring the dash, but ended up with a little flashlight in
    the console to shine on the LCDs.

    emailed also because it's an old thread.

    Not necessary, usenet is sufficiently immortal!



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  • From micky@21:1/5 to bashley101@gmail.com on Mon Aug 16 04:41:53 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:44:57 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 08/15/2021 02:56 PM, micky wrote:
    In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 22 May 2021 11:52:04 -0700, The Real Bev
    <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is >>>this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >>>brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Not the same problem but similar effect. My 2005 Toyota Solara clock
    cluster lights, for the clock and 2 or 3 other things, only go on at
    night, even though I can't see what they say during the day time unless
    I'm driving away from the sun. Even with the headlights on. Even
    worse when the top is down. I think it's a mistake in design by
    Toyota.

    They clearly put all their expertise into reliability, etc. And it
    never occurred to them to make the driver's seat raise up a few more
    inches for us NORMAL people? I'm not even that short, I just want to be >higher, especially with the reduced window area so prevalent in cars now!

    They make other mistakes too. In the 2005 Solara, the fob opens the
    trunk but not if the engine is running. There's a lever on the floor
    to open it, like in 2000, but in 2000, if you were parked with the top
    down, or even the window open, anyone could climb over the trunk or lean
    in the window and open the trunk. So in 2005, they let you lock that,
    but then the only way to open it was to turn off the engine and use the
    fob. (I installed a button on the dash, but I had to root through the
    wires at the bottom of the left kick panel to find the one to the trunk
    lock.)

    2 of my 3 Lebarons had only mechanical trunk releases, which could be
    disabled in the trunk lid, but then I had to get out and use the key.
    Electric trunk releases can be set to only work when the ignition is on.

    The Solara is set so you can't raise or lower the top if you're going
    more than iirc 3 mph, so I had to find and cut that wire. OTOH, the
    recent Buick convertible is set so you can't go more than 30 mph. Yikes.
    Even I would never go over 15 or 20, or I'd sail away like a kite!


    Even if I block the light sensor on the dash so that the car thinks it's
    night time, the headlights go on but not these lights.

    I've tried rewiring the dash, but ended up with a little flashlight in
    the console to shine on the LCDs.

    emailed also because it's an old thread.

    Not necessary, usenet is sufficiently immortal!

    I knew you'd have the thread in your computer, but I thought it might be
    so far up on the page, above the top of the monitor, you wouldn't see
    it.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Aug 16 09:57:07 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 08/16/2021 01:41 AM, micky wrote:
    In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:44:57 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 08/15/2021 02:56 PM, micky wrote:
    In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 22 May 2021 11:52:04 -0700, The Real Bev
    <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is >>>>this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >>>>brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Not the same problem but similar effect. My 2005 Toyota Solara clock
    cluster lights, for the clock and 2 or 3 other things, only go on at
    night, even though I can't see what they say during the day time unless
    I'm driving away from the sun. Even with the headlights on. Even
    worse when the top is down. I think it's a mistake in design by
    Toyota.

    They clearly put all their expertise into reliability, etc. And it
    never occurred to them to make the driver's seat raise up a few more
    inches for us NORMAL people? I'm not even that short, I just want to be >>higher, especially with the reduced window area so prevalent in cars now!

    They make other mistakes too. In the 2005 Solara, the fob opens the
    trunk but not if the engine is running. There's a lever on the floor
    to open it, like in 2000, but in 2000, if you were parked with the top
    down, or even the window open, anyone could climb over the trunk or lean
    in the window and open the trunk. So in 2005, they let you lock that,
    but then the only way to open it was to turn off the engine and use the
    fob. (I installed a button on the dash, but I had to root through the
    wires at the bottom of the left kick panel to find the one to the trunk lock.)

    2 of my 3 Lebarons had only mechanical trunk releases, which could be disabled in the trunk lid, but then I had to get out and use the key. Electric trunk releases can be set to only work when the ignition is on.

    The Solara is set so you can't raise or lower the top if you're going
    more than iirc 3 mph, so I had to find and cut that wire. OTOH, the
    recent Buick convertible is set so you can't go more than 30 mph. Yikes.
    Even I would never go over 15 or 20, or I'd sail away like a kite!


    Even if I block the light sensor on the dash so that the car thinks it's >>> night time, the headlights go on but not these lights.

    I've tried rewiring the dash, but ended up with a little flashlight in
    the console to shine on the LCDs.

    emailed also because it's an old thread.

    Not necessary, usenet is sufficiently immortal!

    I knew you'd have the thread in your computer, but I thought it might be
    so far up on the page, above the top of the monitor, you wouldn't see
    it.

    I used Thunderbird 38 and have it set to show threads with new messages.
    That seems to work better than 'new messages'.

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    Cheers, Bev
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    same manner that fish follow migrating caribou.
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Mon Aug 16 17:30:43 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:56:10 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 22 May 2021 11:52:04 -0700, The Real Bev ><bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    It only lights up when I have the headlights on, which is annoying. Is >>this normal or is something broken? One of the little knobs adjusts the >>brightness, but only with the headlights on.

    Not the same problem but similar effect. My 2005 Toyota Solara clock
    cluster lights, for the clock and 2 or 3 other things, only go on at
    night, even though I can't see what they say during the day time unless
    I'm driving away from the sun. Even with the headlights on. Even
    worse when the top is down. I think it's a mistake in design by
    Toyota.

    Even if I block the light sensor on the dash so that the car thinks it's >night time, the headlights go on but not these lights.

    So a big question is, how does the clock light know it's not really dark
    out, when the headlights are stupid enough to be fooled when I cover the
    light sensor**? If covering the light sensor would work, I'd cover it
    all the time and that would be fine.


    **A one-inch red plastic dome on the dashboard. There are actually two
    of them. I can't remember what the other one does and I can't find it in
    the wiring diagram, but I covered both of them.



    I've tried rewiring the dash, but ended up with a little flashlight in
    the console to shine on the LCDs.

    The flashlight has worked well on two occasions, but I can't just glance
    at the instrument. It's a 5-step process.

    emailed also because it's an old thread.

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