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    From ELON X.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 29 21:16:01 2023
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    Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison—Here's Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT

    Topline

    Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
    charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
    years in prison, though Trump is highly unlikely to face that much time.
    Donald Trump

    Former President Donald Trump prepares to deliver remarks at a Nevada Republican volunteer ... [+]Getty Images
    Key Facts

    Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
    falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
    campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.

    Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
    charge in that case, but legal experts suggest it’s unlikely he’ll face
    any prison time at all in this case as a first-time offender.

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    Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
    after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
    with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
    national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
    counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.

    That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
    charges carrying potentially five years each.

    Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
    four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
    his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
    the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
    or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
    they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.

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    Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
    for conspiracy against rights.

    Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
    in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41 total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
    racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
    a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer, conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

    Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
    years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
    impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
    counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
    conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
    false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.
    Contra

    While all of the crimes Trump’s been indicted for do carry possible prison sentences, most do not carry mandatory sentences if convicted and can also potentially be punishable by a fine. Criminal solicitation and forgery in Georgia are the only charges against Trump in which the statutes don’t
    specify it can be punishable by a fine instead.
    What We Don’t Know

    What Trump’s actual prison sentences will be, if he’s convicted of any of
    the crimes he’s been charged with. Trump is unlikely to receive maximum
    prison sentences as a first-time offender, Politico notes, and even if
    he’s convicted of multiple crimes, he might be ordered to serve out his sentences concurrently, meaning he could serve sentences for multiple
    counts simultaneously rather than one after the other. Trump could also be helped out in the documents case by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the judge overseeing the case who would sentence him if convicted, who Trump appointed and has been deferential toward him in the past.
    What To Watch For

    Trump’s trial in Manhattan is scheduled to start on March 25, 2024,
    followed by the documents case going to trial on May 20, 2024, though
    those dates could be changed. No date has been set yet for Trump’s federal indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, though prosecutors
    have proposed a trial date of January 2. It’s also still unclear when the Fulton County case will go to trial, and while District Attorney Fani
    Willis suggested prosecutors want the trial to take place within the next
    six months, that may be unlikely given the complex nature of the 19-
    defendant case.
    Chief Critic

    Trump has strongly denied all of the charges against him in each
    indictment, pleading not guilty to the first three sets of charges and
    decrying the Fulton County indictment as a “witch hunt.” “These monsters,
    all controlled and coordinated by the DOJ and Radical Left Lunatics, are Criminalizing Political Speech, a total SHUTDOWN OF DEMOCRACY!” Trump
    claimed on Truth Social Tuesday night. (Legal experts have disputed
    Trump’s claim that his attempts to overturn the election were First Amendment-protected speech.)
    Surprising Fact

    Trump being convicted and sentenced to prison would not in itself stop him
    from serving as president if he were reelected in 2024—or from campaigning
    for the job—though it would likely present some logistical challenges.
    Legal experts cited by Politico said it’s likely any sentences from state courts would likely be postponed until after his presidential term ends,
    and while it’s less clear what would happen in the case of any federal sentences, Trump could try to pardon himself from those charges. (It’s
    still legally uncertain if he could do so.)
    Key Background

    Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony charges. His indictments were brought over the past several months
    following years-long investigations by federal and local prosecutors, with special counsel Jack Smith being appointed in November to oversee the
    Justice Department’s two investigations into the former president. The
    charges in Fulton County were brought Monday against 19 defendants,
    alleging Trump was part of a broader criminal conspiracy to subvert the election results. Polling suggests that Trump’s indictments have only
    bolstered his standing in the Republican presidential primaries among his
    GOP base, though it’s still unclear how his indictments—or by that point,
    any convictions—could impact the ex-president in a general election.

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  • From fudge factor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 02:32:31 2023
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    On 29 Oct 2023, "ELON X." <elonx@protonmail.com> posted some news:uhmi2h$2jnm$7@dont-email.me:

    He'll be much more at home in prison with all the other Portlandian
    pole smokers.

    Newly released dashcam footage shows a seething Portland man driving his
    Chevy through a crowded parade, sending revelers at the city's annual
    Rose Festival running for cover before evading police.

    Due to a shortage of public defenders in Oregon, his former defense
    attorney, Chris Howard, told Fox News Digital 42-year-old Sidney Mecham
    has been waiting for new counsel since August.

    The video was released into court records during an August hearing to
    extend Mecham's preventative detention granted by Multnomah County
    Circuit Judge Judith Matarazzo.

    Mecham has remained in Inverness Jail in Northeast Portland since the
    June 10 incident on 38 charges, including felonies for attempted
    assault, multiple counts of unlawful use of a weapon, attempted assault
    on a police officer and attempting to elude law enforcement by vehicle, according to charges obtained by Fox News Digital from the Multnomah
    County District Attorney's Office.

    Each of 17 unlawful use of a weapon counts corresponds with one person
    nearly hit by the man's Chevy Avalanche, according to the charges.

    The video shows Mecham "nearly collid[ing] with dozens of pedestrians, including small children, along the parade route," prosecutors wrote in
    a probable cause affidavit. "Panic is visible in the pedestrians who
    scream and scatter as Mecham's vehicle continues onward toward them."

    Mecham has pleaded not guilty to all of these charges, according to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. KGW8 reported that his previous
    attorney argued at his first court appearance that Mecham was
    "disoriented and trying to get through a difficult situation" while he
    drove recklessly through the parade.

    According to the outlet, he was also driving without insurance and with
    a suspended license.

    He also faces a series of traffic violations for other infractions
    caught on his own forward, rearview and internal dash cameras, like
    rolling through stop signs and red lights, careening through
    construction sites and speeding.

    Mecham's lengthy prior criminal history includes traffic violations and
    sex crimes, per the Oregon State Police Sex Offender Registry. His first sex-related charges date back to 1996. In 1999, he was convicted of
    attempted first-degree rape and attempted first-degree sodomy, per the registry. In 2016, he was convicted of third-degree sodomy and
    third-degree sexual abuse.

    danieltall
    8 hours ago

    They shouldn't have arrested him, he is a terrorist and we should have
    gone Israeli on him and bombed Portland until we figured we probably got
    him.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/raging-portland-driver-rips-through-rose-parad e-furious-video

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