• Elden Sports Racer for sale (draft)

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 18 16:03:32 2018
    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension was made by Elden in 1972 as
    one of 3 Mark 12s for the London car show for Formula 3 racing.
    Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified it is PRH 12 / 002 chassis no
    87/1972. It was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland in
    August 1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976, and
    also in 1977 where he finished the Run Offs / National Championship race
    in 5th position. Steve Doty later purchased it, put a 1600cc inline 4
    cylinder (US Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as a Formula Libre.
    Doty on 9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC race in Portland.
    Steve Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and raced it seriously
    and took the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer with it in 1985 and 1986. (Which was Elden = the 1991 Steve Doty 1991 DSR champ,
    or 1991 Mike Oberholtzer 1991 CSR champ????


    To recap:
    Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    Engine is inline water cooled 4, 1600cc (Rabbit)
    Best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    Carbaration by dual side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2007.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 20 07:42:35 2018
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis

    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension was made by Elden in 1972 as
    one of 3 Mark 12s displayed for the London car show for Formula 3
    racing. Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified this car is PRH 12 / 002
    chassis no 87/1972 (In 1973 Elden also produced three very similar
    Mk15s). This one was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland
    in August 1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976
    in FC, and also in 1977, where he finished the Run Offs / National
    Championship race in 5th position. Steve Doty later purchased it, put a
    VW 1600cc inline 4 cylinder (US Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as
    a Formula Libre. Doty on 9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC
    race in Portland. Steve Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and
    raced it seriously and took the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer
    with it in 1985 and 1986. Mike Oberholtzer bought it and raced it 1987
    to 1990, placing high regularly in the season points in ICSCC, but not
    winning the championship. In 1990 both Oberholtzer, and next owner Norm Hernandez drove it several times. Hernandez drove it frequently in
    1991, 1992 and 1993. Norm Hernandez had bought a Formula Mazda and in
    1993 when the Elden's engine broke, he left it parked until March 16,
    2005 when he sold it to Lee Fjellanger. Lee Fjellanger chose to race it
    as a CSR from 2007 through Sept. 2009 and won the ICSCC CSR Championship
    2007, 2008 & 2009. He turned laps at 1:35 at Pacific Raceways.

    A purchaser can choose to race this in any organization, or race it in Sovereign / Vintage as it was racing as currently configured as a Sports
    Racer in 1985, or the expensive option of restoring it to original F3 configuration.

    Issues that need to be addressed to race this car.
    The fuel cell needs to be replaced (the foam is disintegrating).
    The Hewland case has a crack by the clutch arm
    (remove & weld, or replace case, ` around $1,100).
    It should have a valve job.
    The Webber carbs should be cleaned and adjusted.
    No doubt, it needs new battery, tires, break & clutch fluids
    (decent used tires are cheap = Formula Mazda castoffs).

    To recap:
    Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    Engine is VW block inline water cooled 4, 1600cc (VW Rabbit)
    The best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    Carboration by dual side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2007.
    4 extra steel wheels for rain tires.

    Currently offered at $8,000
    Lee Fjellanger
    206-321-6886
    leegobothell@hotmail.com


    ----------------------------
    from
    http://www.classicf3.org.uk/2017/Manufacturers/Elden/elden.html

    The PRH12 (sans rear wing) at its announcement.
    The PRH12 (also listed as a Mk12) was basically the PRH9 with revised
    bodywork, notably a full-width nose, higher cockpit sides and a high
    tapering engine cover. In addition the water pipes ran externally along
    the bottom of the chassis. Three cars were built, two going to the USA
    for Formula B racing, the best result in the UK was a 3rd at Brands
    Hatch for Andy Sutcliffe who showed that given a decent driver it wasn't
    far away from the March/GRD combinations.

    Mike Catlow in the Elden PRH12 at Snetterton.
    Drivers:
    1973
    PRH12 Mike Catlow, Andy Sutcliffe, Ted Wentz.
    1974
    PRH15 Steve Farnsworth, Jorge Koechlin, Bertram Schäffer.
    ? Tim Brise.

    http://sovrenracing.org/pacific-northwest-historics/ http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016_Car_Eligibility.pdf

    https://www.ebay.com/bhp/hewland

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 24 10:35:24 2018
    On 9/20/2018 7:42 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis
    This car's monocoque chassis

    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension was made by Elden in 1972 as
    one of 3 Mark 12s displayed for the London car show for Formula 3
    racing. Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified this car is PRH 12 / 002
    chassis no 87/1972 (In 1973 Elden also produced three very similar
    Mk15s). This one was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland
    in August 1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976
    in FC, and also in 1977, where he finished the Run Offs / National
    Championship race in 5th position. Steve Doty later purchased it, put a
    VW 1600cc inline 4 cylinder (US Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as
    a Formula Libre. Doty on 9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC
    race in Portland. Steve Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and
    raced it seriously and took the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer
    with it in 1985 and 1986. Mike Oberholtzer bought it and raced it 1987
    to 1990, placing high regularly in the season points in ICSCC, but not
    winning the championship. In 1990 both Oberholtzer, and next owner Norm Hernandez drove it several times. Hernandez drove it frequently in
    1991, 1992 and 1993. Norm Hernandez had bought a Formula Mazda and in
    1993 when the Elden's engine broke, he left it parked until March 16,
    2005 when he sold it to Lee Fjellanger. Lee Fjellanger chose to race it
    in ICSCC as a CSR from 2007 through Sept. 2009 and won the ICSCC CSR Championship 2007, 2008 & 2009. He turned laps at 1:35 at Pacific Raceways.

    A purchaser can choose to race this in any organization, or race it in Sovereign / Vintage as it was racing as currently configured as a Sports
    Racer in 1985, or the expensive option of restoring it to original F3 configuration. Or, they could part it out.

    Issues that need to be addressed to race this car.
    The fuel cell needs to be replaced (the foam is disintegrating).
    The Hewland case has a crack by the clutch arm
    (remove & weld, or replace case, ` around $1,100).
    It should have a valve job.
    The Webber carbs should be cleaned and adjusted.
    No doubt, it needs new battery, tires, break & clutch fluids
    (decent used tires are cheap = Formula Mazda castoffs).

    To recap:
    Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    Engine is VW block inline 4 water cooled 1600cc (VW Rabbit)
    The best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    Carburetor is dual, side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2007.
    4 extra steel wheels for rain tires.
    Manuals = Pat Braden's "Weber Carburetors", Haynes VW Rabbit
    Automotive repair Manual, the Bently "Rabbit service Manual".
    At this price there are 18 additional Hewland gear sets included.

    Currently offered at $10,500
    Lee Fjellanger
    206-321-6886
    leegobothell@hotmail.com


    ----------------------------
    from
    http://www.classicf3.org.uk/2017/Manufacturers/Elden/elden.html

    The PRH12 (sans rear wing) at its announcement.
    The PRH12 (also listed as a Mk12) was basically the PRH9 with revised
    bodywork, notably a full-width nose, higher cockpit sides and a high
    tapering engine cover. In addition the water pipes ran externally along
    the bottom of the chassis. Three cars were built, two going to the USA
    for Formula B racing, the best result in the UK was a 3rd at Brands
    Hatch for Andy Sutcliffe who showed that given a decent driver it wasn't
    far away from the March/GRD combinations.

    Mike Catlow in the Elden PRH12 at Snetterton.
    Drivers:
    1973
    PRH12 Mike Catlow, Andy Sutcliffe, Ted Wentz.
    1974
    PRH15 Steve Farnsworth, Jorge Koechlin, Bertram Schäffer.
    ? Tim Brise.

    http://sovrenracing.org/pacific-northwest-historics/ http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016_Car_Eligibility.pdf

    https://www.ebay.com/bhp/hewland

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 26 10:21:22 2018
    On 9/24/2018 10:35 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/20/2018 7:42 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis
    On 9/20/2018 7:42 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis
    This car's monocoque chassis

    For sale, Sports Racer made by Elden
    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension were made by Elden in 1972
    as one of three Mark 12s displayed for the London car show for Formula 3 racing. Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified this car is PRH 12 / 002
    chassis no 87/1972 (In 1973 Elden also produced three very similar
    Mk15s). This one was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland
    in August 1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976
    in FC, and also in 1977, where he finished the Run Offs / National
    Championship race in 5th position. Steve Doty later purchased it, put a
    VW 1600cc inline 4 cylinder (US Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as
    a Formula Libre. Doty on 9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC
    race in Portland. Steve Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and
    raced it seriously and took the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer
    with it in 1985 and 1986. Mike Oberholtzer bought it and raced it 1987
    to 1990, placing high regularly in the season points in ICSCC, but not
    winning the championship. In 1990 both Oberholtzer, and next owner Norm Hernandez drove it several times. Hernandez drove it frequently in
    1991, 1992 and 1993. Norm Hernandez had bought a Formula Mazda, and in
    1993 when the Elden's prior engine broke, he left it parked until March
    16, 2005 when he sold it to Lee Fjellanger. Lee Fjellanger chose to
    race it in ICSCC as a CSR from 2007 through Sept. 2009 and won the ICSCC
    CSR Championship 2007, 2008 & 2009. He turned laps at 1:35 at Pacific Raceways.

    A purchaser can choose to race this in any organization, or race it in Sovereign / Vintage as it was racing as currently configured as a Sports
    Racer in 1985, or the expensive option of restoring it to original F3 configuration. Or, they could part it out.

    Issues that need to be addressed to race this car.
    The fuel cell needs to be replaced (the foam is disintegrating).
    The Hewland transmission case has a crack by the clutch arm
    (remove & weld, or replace case, ` around $1,100).
    It should have a valve job.
    The Webber carbs should be cleaned and adjusted.
    No doubt, it needs new battery, tires, break & clutch fluids
    (decent used tires are cheap = Formula Mazda castoffs).

    To recap, this is:
    Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    Engine is VW block inline 4 water cooled 1600cc (VW Rabbit)
    The best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    Carburetor is dual, side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2008.
    4 extra steel wheels for rain tires.
    Manuals = Pat Braden's "Weber Carburetors", Haynes VW Rabbit
    Automotive repair Manual, the Bently "Rabbit service Manual".
    At this price there are 18 additional Hewland gear sets included.

    Currently offered at $10,500
    Lee Fjellanger
    206-321-6886
    leegobothell@hotmail.com


    ----------------------------
    from
    http://www.classicf3.org.uk/2017/Manufacturers/Elden/elden.html

    The PRH12 (sans rear wing) at its announcement.
    The PRH12 (also listed as a Mk12) was basically the PRH9 with revised
    bodywork, notably a full-width nose, higher cockpit sides and a high
    tapering engine cover. In addition the water pipes ran externally along
    the bottom of the chassis. Three cars were built, two going to the USA
    for Formula B racing, the best result in the UK was a 3rd at Brands
    Hatch for Andy Sutcliffe who showed that given a decent driver it wasn't
    far away from the March/GRD combinations.

    Mike Catlow in the Elden PRH12 at Snetterton.
    Drivers:
    1973
    PRH12 Mike Catlow, Andy Sutcliffe, Ted Wentz.
    1974
    PRH15 Steve Farnsworth, Jorge Koechlin, Bertram Schäffer.
    ? Tim Brise.

    https://www.ebay.com/bhp/hewland

    http://sovrenracing.org/pacific-northwest-historics/ http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016_Car_Eligibility.pdf

    racingjunk.com

    http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?184-Vintage-Classifieds-Cars-For-Sale

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 26 13:23:53 2018
    On 9/26/2018 10:21 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/24/2018 10:35 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/20/2018 7:42 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis
    On 9/20/2018 7:42 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 9/18/2018 4:03 PM, a425couple wrote:
    This car's monocoque chassis
    This car's monocoque chassis

    For sale, Sports Racer made by Elden
    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension were made by Elden in 1972
    as one of three Mark 12s displayed for the London car show for Formula 3 racing. Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified this car is PRH 12 / 002 chassis no 87/1972 (In 1973 Elden also produced three very similar
    Mk15s).  This one was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland
    in August 1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976
    in FC, and also in 1977, where he finished the Run Offs / National Championship race in 5th position.  Steve Doty later purchased it, put a
    VW 1600cc inline 4 cylinder (US Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as
    a Formula Libre. Doty on 9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC
    race in Portland.  Steve Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and
    raced it seriously and took the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer
    with it in 1985 and 1986.  Mike Oberholtzer bought it and raced it 1987
    to 1990, placing high regularly in the season points in ICSCC, but not winning the championship.  In 1990 both Oberholtzer, and next owner Norm Hernandez drove it several times.  Hernandez drove it frequently in
    1991, 1992 and 1993.  Norm Hernandez had bought a Formula Mazda, and in
    1993 when the Elden's prior engine broke, he left it parked until  March
    16, 2005 when he sold it to Lee Fjellanger.  Lee Fjellanger chose to
    race it in ICSCC as a CSR from 2007 through Sept. 2009 and won the ICSCC
    CSR Championship 2007, 2008 & 2009.  He turned laps at 1:35 at Pacific Raceways.

    A purchaser can choose to race this in any organization, or race it in Sovereign / Vintage as it was racing as currently configured as a Sports Racer in 1985, or the expensive option of restoring it to original F3 configuration.  Or, they could part it out.

    Issues that need to be addressed to race this car.
    The fuel cell needs to be replaced (the foam is disintegrating).
    The Hewland transmission case has a crack by the clutch arm
      (remove & weld, or replace case, ` around $1,100).
    It should have a valve job.
    The Webber carbs should be cleaned and adjusted.
    No doubt, it needs new battery, tires, break & clutch fluids
       (decent used tires are cheap = Formula Mazda castoffs).

    To recap, this is:
    Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    Engine is VW block inline 4 water cooled 1600cc (VW Rabbit)
    The best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    Carburetor is dual, side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2008.
    4 extra steel wheels for rain tires.
    Manuals = Pat Braden's "Weber Carburetors", Haynes VW Rabbit
       Automotive repair Manual, the Bently "Rabbit service Manual".
    At this price there are 18 additional Hewland gear sets included.

    Currently offered at $10,500
    Lee Fjellanger
    206-321-6886
    leegobothell@hotmail.com


    ----------------------------
    from
    http://www.classicf3.org.uk/2017/Manufacturers/Elden/elden.html

    The PRH12 (sans rear wing) at its announcement.
    The PRH12 (also listed as a Mk12) was basically the PRH9 with revised bodywork, notably a full-width nose, higher cockpit sides and a high
    tapering engine cover. In addition the water pipes ran externally along
    the bottom of the chassis. Three cars were built, two going to the USA
    for Formula B racing, the best result in the UK was a 3rd at Brands
    Hatch for Andy Sutcliffe who showed that given a decent driver it wasn't
    far away from the March/GRD combinations.

    Mike Catlow in the Elden PRH12 at Snetterton.
    Drivers:
    1973
    PRH12 Mike Catlow, Andy Sutcliffe, Ted Wentz.
    1974
    PRH15 Steve Farnsworth, Jorge Koechlin, Bertram Schäffer.
    ? Tim Brise.

    https://www.ebay.com/bhp/hewland

    http://sovrenracing.org/pacific-northwest-historics/ http://sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016_Car_Eligibility.pdf

    racingjunk.com

    http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?184-Vintage-Classifieds-Cars-For-Sale


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    Elden Sports Racer for Sale
    For sale, Sports Racer made by Elden

    This car's monocoque chassis and suspension were made by Elden in 1972
    as one of three Mark 12s displayed for the London car show for Formula 3 racing. Designer Peter Hampsheir has verified this car is PRH 12 / 002
    chassis no 87/1972 (In 1973 Elden also produced three very similar Mk15s).

    This car was brought into the USA and first raced at Portland in August
    1976 by Terry Annis who took it to the SCCA Run Offs in 1976 in FC, and
    in 1977, where he finished the Run Offs / National Championship race in
    5th position.

    Steve Doty later purchased it, put a VW 1600cc inline 4 cylinder (US
    Rabbit style) engine in it and ran it as a Formula Libre. Doty on
    9-16-84 took 1st in FL in his Elden in a ICSCC race in Portland. Steve
    Doty then converted it to a Sports Racer and raced it seriously and took
    the ICSCC Championships in D Sports Racer with it in 1985 and 1986.

    Mike Oberholtzer bought it and raced it 1987 to 1990, placing high
    regularly in the season points in ICSCC, but not winning the
    championship. In 1990 both Oberholtzer, and next owner Norm Hernandez
    drove it several times. Hernandez drove it frequently in 1991, 1992 and
    1993. Norm Hernandez had bought a Formula Mazda, and in 1993 when the
    Elden's prior engine broke, he left it parked until March 16, 2005 when
    he sold it to Lee Fjellanger.

    Lee Fjellanger chose to race it in ICSCC as a CSR from 2007 through
    Sept. 2009 and won the ICSCC CSR Championship 2007, 2008 & 2009. He
    turned laps at 1:35 at Pacific Raceways.

    A purchaser can choose to race this in any organization, or race it in
    Sovren / Vintage as it was racing as currently configured as a Sports
    Racer in 1985, or the expensive option of restoring it to original F3 configuration. Or, they could part it out.

    Issues that need to be addressed to race this car.

    -The fuel cell needs to be replaced (the foam is disintegrating).
    -The Hewland transmission case has a crack by the clutch arm
    (remove & weld, or replace case, ` around $1,100).
    -It should have a valve job.
    -The Webber carbs should be cleaned and adjusted.
    -No doubt, it needs new battery, tires, break & clutch fluids
    (decent used tires are cheap = Formula Mazda castoffs).

    To recap, this is:
    -Monocoque chassis and suspension is F3 1972 Elden
    -Engine is VW block inline 4 water cooled 1600cc (VW Rabbit)
    -The best head is a Shrike (a stock head is also included)
    -Transmission is a Hewland Mk 9 (5 speed plus reverse)
    -Carburetor is dual, side draft Webbers DCOE 40.
    -Bilstein shocks were re-manufactured in 2008.
    -4 extra steel wheels for rain tires.
    -Manuals = Pat Braden's "Weber Carburetors", Haynes VW Rabbit
    Automotive repair Manual, the Bently "Rabbit service Manual".
    -At this price there are 18 additional Hewland gear sets included
    (It seems they are valued at $100 to $250 each, they can be negotiated separately).

    Currently offered at $10,500


    Lee Fjellanger
    206-321-6886
    leegobothell@hotmail.com

    Additional pictures can be seen at: https://www.facebook.com/marie.fjell...6190308&type=3

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