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    ‘TOO SLOW TO ADAPT’ – BUT CHADWICK’S US MOVE COULD YET PAY OFF
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    By Jack Benyon
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    A pair of top 10s in a row mark Jamie Chadwick’s best Indy NXT results
    of the season so far.

    That might not sound like the results you expect, but one of those 10ths
    was on an oval – no mean feat – and as for the rest of the campaign, she’s learning a new tyre and a host of new tracks in a way few others
    are doing.



    And yet, scrolling through Twitter, there’s still negativity towards Chadwick’s performances. Contrary to accidentally retweeting an
    anti-Chadwick tweet while looking through – I’m so sorry, Jamie! – I’m not ready to accept that this season has been a failure for a multitude
    of reasons.

    It’s perhaps because people in Europe expect so much of Chadwick because
    she won W Series three times, perhaps because there’s an element of underrating the level of the Indy Lights (now NXT) series, and perhaps
    because people have just put all of their eggs in Chadwick’s basket as
    the future of women in motorsport at the elite level, driver-wise anyway.


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    Fortunately, Chadwick’s feet are so well planted on the ground that
    they’re effectively welded to it at this stage, and she’s not interested
    in anything other than her own improvement and development.

    “In Europe, it’s very different to what it is here,” Chadwick tells The Race, speaking ahead of her Iowa oval debut two weeks ago.

    “Here it’s maybe what I was expecting and how I felt like it maybe
    should be [what people think of her adaptation so far].

    “We’re making progress. OK, we want to be further up. I would say the potential is there. But there wasn’t the expectation to be winning races
    off the bat.

    Jamie Chadwick Indy Nxt By Firestone At Iowa Speedway By James Black Ref
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    “In Europe, maybe there was [the expectation to win straight away], but
    I know exactly what I’ve come from, the step up that I’ve got, I’m not claiming that I want to be a Formula 1 driver next year or anything like
    that.

    “I think it’s a long road for all of that. But what’s really positive is that from W Series it’s a big step up, but I feel like I’ve been
    welcomed well over here and there is an opportunity to do well.

    “And hopefully for the young girls now coming through it does showcase
    that there are opportunities, both sides of the pond, and there is a
    chance to have success.”


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    Expanding later on, Chadwick adds: “I think I was flattered in W Series
    with results.

    “But I’m under no illusions that it’s going to take me time to get there and I feel like there’s nothing wrong with that.

    “I can take a bit of time and it’s great that I’m in an environment that’s allowing me to do that and Williams has been very supportive of
    that as well.

    “I’m not in a position to jump in F2 and win in my first year, so it’s great to be in an environment where I’m given that time to learn and develop.”

    The realists who know Indy NXT knew this would be a tough test for
    Chadwick. The car itself was described as being more like a rally car by
    last year’s champion, Linus Lundqvist, and to get the most out of an eight-minute qualifying you have to drive the car beyond its edge.

    Jamie Chadwick Indy Nxt Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix Presented By Lear
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    “I’ve always just left a little bit too much on the table,” Chadwick acknowledges.

    It’s a departure from the more tyre-conscious, conservative driving
    style which sacrifices everything to avoid sliding in Europe. That’s
    before you consider driving an oval or street course which you don’t get
    as much experience of on the lower rungs of the junior single-seater ladder.

    The problem is, when Chadwick does make leaps, it feels like something
    bad then happens. Qualifying seven tenths off the pace at Mid-Ohio in
    ninth was a strong effort, but she felt she was taken out of the race by avoidable contact.


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    And when she does make avoidable errors, of course, she’s judged more
    harshly than others because of the reputation that has been attached to her.

    The results on paper are far less important at this stage than assessing
    the adaptation, especially with the car itself.

    “The car’s a handful, we’ve actually made quite a lot of changes to help me physically with the car, which has helped,” Chadwick adds.

    “Yeah, just getting used to that. It will be the same for the rest of
    the year, a lot of the tracks I go to for the first time on the Friday
    and just adapting.

    “I’ve been, actually, to be honest, too slow to adapt anyway. But I
    think it’s not easy when you see some of these tracks for the first
    time. They’re not like European tracks with a lot of runoff. The general trait is that I’ve been more competitive at tracks that are a bit more
    like European kinds of circuits.

    Jamie Chadwick Indy Nxt By Firestone Grand Prix At Mid Ohio By Joe
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    “We are making progress, more than maybe it looks on paper, like you
    said, the focus isn’t really on results.

    “The reality is those don’t matter so much at the moment, we just need
    to make bigger steps as we can to genuinely be competitive and there on
    merit, rather than just picking up pieces.”

    As I’d written after Chadwick’s first race of the year in St Petersburg,
    it was too soon to judge her transition to America then, and it still is
    now. Although the last few races have shown signs that Chadwick is
    getting a handle on what’s needed.


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    The time to judge would be in the second year. The Race understands
    Andretti is keen to continue with Chadwick and vice versa, although all
    of that needs to be hashed out in the coming weeks.

    When asked if it is her goal to continue, Chadwick replies: “Honestly, I
    can say, yeah, I do [want to].

    “It does come down to performance and results, which needs to improve
    for sure.

    “I’d like to have the opportunity to do a second year of Indy NXT
    because I think with that second year, we can make a really good step
    and be really competitive, in my opinion.

    “But yeah, I could really see myself over here.

    Jamie Chadwick Indy Nxt By Firestone Grand Prix At Road America By Karl
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    “It comes down to performance anywhere you are, if it’s in Europe or
    over here, but yeah, I love the environment.

    “I love the kind of vibe, the way everyone goes racing over here is
    quite refreshing. And let’s see how next year maybe goes and go from
    there. But it’s been fun so far.

    “Honestly, I’m absolutely loving it. I think that’s kind of why even though the results haven’t been what I would have liked, I’ve still had
    a great time this year so far, because the environment I’ve loved.”

    Jamie Chadwick Indy Nxt By Firestone At Iowa Speedway By Travis Hinkle
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    Chadwick will be given the time in the States to progress without being
    thrown under the bus, too.

    Unlike in something like F2, where if you don’t win in your first year you’ll struggle to be considered a future F1 driver and have to work
    extra hard to turn your chances around there or buy your way in, in
    America the ladder is more forgiving.

    “You only have to look at some of the European drivers that have ended
    up over here that have had success to kind of further that point,”
    Chadwick adds to that.


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    A second season in Indy NXT would not rule Chadwick out of making the
    jump to IndyCar if she demonstrates the improvement and ability to
    warrant an IndyCar drive. If she doesn’t, there are no excuses, just
    like for any driver and Chadwick knows that.

    Chadwick does not expect anything to be handed to her on a plate and
    she’s determined to earn it.

    She thinks she can achieve her goals, so before people rule her out,
    let’s give her the time to get on an even playing field with the
    competition and deliver on what Chadwick knows she can do.

    That’ll be the time to judge.

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    hhski
    10 hours ago
    hope she does well.


    Eva Freimann
    12 hours ago
    The season so far has been pretty low on highlights for women in
    motorsports, as far as the categories that I watch go.

    In single seaters, we have Chadwick, who clearly hasn't adapted quickly
    enough, and Flörsch, who tends to qualify 26th or so. And on average
    makes up about ten places, which is respectable, but it's still just
    finishing 18th or whatever (kudos to getting the strategy right in Spa,
    of course). I'm still a bit mystified about what happened to her stint
    in LMP2 last season as she seemed to be actually quick there.
    LMP2 now got Doriane Pin, whom I do rate, but who is having a Mika-Häkkinen-retirement season. Okay, they did get a podium, but then
    were already unlucky to get a 4th next time around, and since they just
    seem to hit some trouble in every race since.
    It's a similar story in GT3. Iron Dames, having switched away from
    Ferrari, are having a really troubled season. They do seem more on pace
    in their Porsche, but not as much in their Lamborghini. And usually
    something happens that takes them out of contention. They are 2nd in
    WEC, which looks good, but the individual results largely haven't been
    there.
    Kinda the opposite, but probably the most bright spot this season so
    far, is Lilou Wadoux with better individual results but less successful
    on average; first woman to get a WEC win in category and did have some
    really good stints. Certainly looks like a quick driver, at least in GTs. Pretty solid over in GT America World Challenge is Ashton Harrison. Also
    had some bad luck and is a bit difficult to rate - but two wins and
    second in PRO category, that's certainly not bad.
    Samantha Tan is also doing GTs but can't say she's shown much pace. When
    she wasn't DNF'd by something.
    IMSA GTD has Legge and Monk but I've only seen a little of that and they
    too seem to be cursed with technical or other kremlins this season. No
    idea about their pace.
    Also British GT randomly had Esmee Hawkey in a Ginetta, but I'm not sure
    she even got to do a single racing lap at speed. That car always had
    some issue, and now she's been ditched (or ditched the team, dunno).

    Obviously there were also some taking part in different categories in
    N24h and some other places here or there but it's difficult to judge
    that sort of thing. Or it's just in a category I haven't watched.

    So, yeah, not so great this season so far. Certainly some where you feel
    there is more to come in the second half of the motorsport season, so
    hopefully some nice results with that.


    RaceSpider Eva Freimann
    5 hours ago
    Watching Lilou Wadoux at Spa this year in those conditions made me
    believer. Most of her stints this year have been really good, IMO, but
    hers at Spa this year were something special. She did ok in lmp2 last
    year(WEC) and this year(IMSA) when she’s run it, but I agree she really shines in GT. I think she still has plenty of room to grow because of
    her late start in motorsports, her young age, and this being her 2nd
    year sports cars. Also, she definitely can improve in Lmp2, especially
    managing traffic. IMO and in my observations she seems very naturally
    talented. Not to mention her name is fun to say 😛 I wish her all the best.

    Gilles2Charles
    15 hours ago
    "It’s perhaps because people in Europe expect so much of Chadwick
    because she won W Series three times,"

    Lol.


    raul duarte
    16 hours ago
    Do the results Chadwick is getting make a point to celebrate more what AnaBeatriz (Or Bia Figueiredo for us brazilians) did in Indy Lights in
    the last decade?


    BareFoot
    16 hours ago edited
    Question...What's driving the global powers to finance hence push women
    to aspire to male dominated motorsports? Equality of outcome? this is
    the opposite of gender equality.

    I think to give any women a chance of challenging front runners at f3
    level and above, would require a handicap system to achieve this
    outcome. That or genetically modifying the female while in the womb, by manipulating their DNA with the innate mental and physical
    characteristics talents, instincts and abilities males are born with.

    Danica Patrick was a one off genetic freak of nature... in cars slower
    than F2 going round and round. I mean the best female talent in the
    world wouldn't see her anywhere near the front in F2, let alone
    legitimately racing anywhere in F!. This reality isn't sexist in the
    slightest. So the question remains...

    Craig BareFoot
    13 hours ago
    Danica was a "freak" only in the same way Max/Lewis/Charles/etc are,
    "freaks" of talent. The more people that take part in the sport the more
    likely to find a "freak", and naturally the more "freaks" you get the
    more talented "freaks" will rise to the top.
    This is why there is a drive to encourage women in motorsport. It's not
    to force results just to prove women can do it. It's to encourage young
    girls to take part in the male dominated sport. If even 25% of
    grassroots racing is female drivers, there is every chance a "freak"
    will be found to be a female F1 driver.


    BareFoot Craig
    12 hours ago
    Yes, a one-off freak amongst females. One-off freaks are just that
    though - one off. None of those male drivers are one-off freaks because
    all of them can beat the other in F3, F2, F1.

    There's a biological reason why Dani, being freak one-off female, would
    still be a back marker in F3 and F2, and not on the map in F1. A very
    good reason.

    The question still remains...why the global seemingly desperate push to
    entice females to compete against males in a naturally male dominated sport?

    There's nothing stopping anyone from grass roots competition. But there
    is a reason why females aren't naturally attracted to grass roots
    racing. Forcing a million girls by enticing them into a male dominated
    sport, won't change their genetic characteristics or abilities...well
    not unless the female
    was genetically manipulated in the womb of a million mothers that is.


    Craig BareFoot
    11 hours ago
    Who said anything about "forcing" girls to compete? They're not doing it
    now simply because they don't have any heroes to relate to. People like
    Jamie and Danica are heroes, regardless of whether they're champions or not. The only reason it's currently male dominated is because since
    motorsports inception girls have been told they're not able to compete
    in it. But women are now starting to challenge that, like Danica, Jamie,
    Sofia and the Iron Dames. They all show women can win in motorsport.

    You realise that 100 years ago people used the same excuses you're using
    about women to justify why they couldn't vote, or work in factories, or
    be in the armed forces, etc.

    Dan Johnson
    a day ago
    Chadwick is in last place among regular drivers

    For the wiki on the NXT season, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Indy_NXT

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