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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 7 10:54:04 2022
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    https://www.planetf1.com/news/valtteri-bottas-indycar-interesting/

    Valtteri Bottas open to ‘interesting’ US move after F1 career ends
    Jon Wilde 19 hours ago

    Valtteri Bottas smiling in Alfa Romeo garage. Mexico City October 2022. Valtteri Bottas can see himself making a move to IndyCar racing when he
    is done with Formula 1.

    The Finn is into what is probably the third and final phase of his F1
    career, barring an unexpected twist.

    He began racing with Williams in 2013 and after becoming a regular
    visitor to the podium the following year, and backing that up with two
    further solid campaigns, he earned his big opportunity at Mercedes after
    Nico Rosberg retired.

    Five seasons and 10 race wins later, plus a 100% record in the
    Constructors’ Championship with the Silver Arrows, Bottas clambered out
    of the pressure cooker when deposed by the team in favour of George
    Russell and opted for a multi-year contract at Alfa Romeo under a dimmer spotlight.

    Now 33, and no longer a realistic contender for victories, it is
    inevitable that he should start to think about what could be ahead in
    the medium term.

    That could mean a Stateside switch, Bottas has admitted.

    “Maybe I’ll be racing in the US [in the future],” he told The Ringer F1 podcast.

    “IndyCar is quite interesting. The tracks are nice and the racing seems really real.

    “It’s been gaining popularity, at least in Europe, so let’s see.”

    What do the next few years hold for Valtteri Bottas?

    Certainly until the end of 2024, he can be considered the driver team
    leader at Alfa Romeo, with Zhou Guanyu confirmed alongside him for a
    second season.

    In saying that though, despite their difference in experience there has
    not been much between the duo in performance during the second half of
    this season – the Chinese rookie has definitely not been left in Bottas’ wake.

    The big unknown is what will happen when Audi start to get their feet
    under the table at Sauber, with whom they are officially linking up from
    2026 after Alfa Romeo’s sponsorship deal concludes at the end of 2023.

    Will the German manufacturer want a say regarding drivers from, say,
    2024 onwards? Reports suggest they are keen on Mick Schumacher, so that
    could potentially impact upon Bottas or Zhou.

    And we are not suggesting he will be tackling the Tour de France in the foreseeable future but it may also be worth keeping an eye on Bottas’ burgeoning cycling activity, just in case that impacts upon any
    decisions he makes regarding F1.

    His Australian partner, Tiffany Cromwell, is, of course, a professional
    road cyclist – a multiple Giro d’Italia stage winner, no less – and the duo recently teamed up to win a gravel race in Kansas.

    Read more: Zhou Guanyu aiming for longer than one-year contracts in the
    future

    also worth reading
    Sam Cooper
    31 Oct 2022
    Valtteri Bottas ‘planning to stick around’ for ‘huge opportunity’ with Audi

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  • From 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 8 07:55:03 2022
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    Thanks for sharing the article.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
    go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
    in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
    to see those two series constantly cross with each other.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 7 20:23:12 2022
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    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:

    Thanks for sharing the article.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
    go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
    in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
    to see those two series constantly cross with each other.

    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:

    Thanks for sharing the article.


    I am glad to hear you appreciated it.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
    go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
    in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
    to see those two series constantly cross with each other.


    I liked a number of the old rules and realities better.
    For example in the 1960's and 70's and 80's teams had much more
    freedom of choice.
    Mario Andretti had done well in US in USAC racing.
    In 1968 Team Lotus invited Mario to drive one of their
    cars in the US GP, and he did. In 1969 he drove in 3 F1 WDC races.
    In 1970 he drove a STP Corporation March in 5 races and
    finished 3rd in Spain.
    In 1971 he was invited to drive a Ferrari, and won the South Africian
    GP. He gradually did more F1 races and won the WDC in a Lotus in 1978.
    That progression could not be done now.

    A recent irritation is that Simona DeSilvestro was doing well in
    Indycar, but then got offered a test driver position in F1,
    and it just seemed like they took advantage of her time and
    contracts with fool's gold promises.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 9 11:16:01 2022
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    On 8/11/2022 5:23 pm, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:

    Thanks for sharing the article.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are  considering IndyCar as a decent series to
    go to post-F1.  I just wish that the FIA  start treating IndyCar drivers >> in a similar manner  that they would treat F1 drivers.  It would be nice >> to see those two series constantly cross with each other.

    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:

    Thanks for sharing the article.


    I am glad to hear you appreciated it.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are  considering IndyCar as a decent series to go to post-F1.  I just wish that the FIA  start treating IndyCar drivers in a similar manner  that they would treat F1 drivers.  It would be nice to see those two series constantly cross with each other.


    I liked a number of the old rules and realities better.
    For example in the 1960's and 70's and 80's teams had much more
    freedom of choice.
    Mario Andretti had done well in US in USAC racing.
    In 1968 Team Lotus invited Mario to drive one of their
    cars in the US GP, and he did.  In 1969 he drove in 3 F1 WDC races.
    In 1970 he drove a STP Corporation March in 5 races and
    finished 3rd in Spain.
    In 1971 he was invited to drive a Ferrari, and won the South Africian GP.  He gradually did more F1
    races and won the WDC in a Lotus in 1978.
    That progression could not be done now.

    A recent irritation is that Simona DeSilvestro was doing well in
    Indycar, but then got offered a test driver position in F1,
    and it just seemed like they took advantage of her time and
    contracts with fool's gold promises.

    That's not how her Wikipedia bio reads: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro>

    Her best season finish in Indycars over 4 (full) seasons was 13th. She then spent a year as an F1
    test driver then didn't immediately go back to Indycars but went instead to Formula E and Aussie
    Supercars. She didn't return to Indycars for 6 years, going back (part-time) in 2021.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 8 19:56:35 2022
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    On 11/8/22 14:16, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 8/11/2022 5:23 pm, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:

    Thanks for sharing the article.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are  considering IndyCar as a decent series to >>> go to post-F1.  I just wish that the FIA  start treating IndyCar drivers >>> in a similar manner  that they would treat F1 drivers.  It would be nice >>> to see those two series constantly cross with each other.

    On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:
    ;
    Thanks for sharing the article.
    ;

    I am glad to hear you appreciated it.

    It's nice that F1 drivers are  considering IndyCar as a decent
    series to
    go to post-F1.  I just wish that the FIA  start treating IndyCar
    drivers
    in a similar manner  that they would treat F1 drivers.  It would be
    nice
    to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
    ;

    I liked a number of the old rules and realities better.
    For example in the 1960's and 70's and 80's teams had much more
    freedom of choice.
    Mario Andretti had done well in US in USAC racing.
    In 1968 Team Lotus invited Mario to drive one of their
    cars in the US GP, and he did.  In 1969 he drove in 3 F1 WDC races.
    In 1970 he drove a STP Corporation March in 5 races and
    finished 3rd in Spain.
    In 1971 he was invited to drive a Ferrari, and won the South Africian
    GP.  He gradually did more F1 races and won the WDC in a Lotus in 1978.
    That progression could not be done now.

    A recent irritation is that Simona DeSilvestro was doing well in
    Indycar, but then got offered a test driver position in F1,
    and it just seemed like they took advantage of her time and
    contracts with fool's gold promises.

    That's not how her Wikipedia bio reads: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro>

    Her best season finish in Indycars over 4 (full) seasons was 13th. She
    then spent a year as an F1 test driver then didn't immediately go back
    to Indycars but went instead to Formula E and Aussie Supercars. She
    didn't return to Indycars for 6 years, going back (part-time) in 2021.

    In her last season she had a 5th and a 2nd. Pretty good finishes.
    She also had 7 more top 10s.
    Yes, overall for the season she finished 13th. She was just behind Dario Franchitti, Tony Kanaan and Sébastien Bourdais. She was just above Josef Newgarden, Viso, Ed Carpenter, Takuma Sato, and Graham Rahal.
    That seems like pretty impressive and good company.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_IndyCar_Series

    Once a person has walked away from a team and contracts and contacts,
    it is tough to get back.
    In my opinion, for a quality female driver, they are better trying to go
    to Indycar that to any dedicated "W series".
    The 'glass ceiling' has been fairly broken, and I think the
    discrimination will be less than in most European series.
    But, as always, the biggest factor for any driver is MARKETING.
    Male, or female, how well can you sell yourself. To a team,
    or to a corporation wanting a face in an advertisement?

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