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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 19 09:21:16 2021
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    from https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/04/19/brawn-bottas-left-russell-nowhere-to-go-in-imola-crash/?fbclid=IwAR1I9S8wofGG31iiENoOx7_TU_MbvL8_EFHSulP65Top9oskzecxfQrZZHo

    Brawn: Bottas left Russell ‘nowhere to go’ in Imola crash
    by Fergal Walsh 1 hour ago 0

    Formula 1 Managing Director Ross Brawn believes Valtteri Bottas left
    George Russell “nowhere to go” before their clash at Imola on Sunday.

    Both drivers were eliminated from the race in the violent impact at Turn
    2, with both men blaming each other for the collision.

    Russell was attempting to overtake Bottas for ninth place on the road,
    but claims the Finnish driver changed his position on the run into the
    corner, which ultimately resulted in Russell losing control after he
    touched the grass.

    Bottas affirmed that he always left enough space for a car on the
    outside line.

    A stewards’ investigation followed, but no punishment was handed out as
    they deemed the crash a racing incident.

    Writing in post-race column, Brawn indicated that Bottas was more to
    blame for the accident as he left Russell with little room at the high
    speed section of the track.

    “There will no doubt be an intense post-mortem of the accident between Valtteri Bottas and George Russell,” Brawn said.

    “The positive thing is that both drivers escaped unhurt and the cars
    held up on impact to show how far we’ve come regarding the safety standards.

    “Imola is quite a narrow track so there’s not much space. When you add
    wet grass either side from the rain, it becomes very, very tricky.

    “I’m sure both drivers will analyse the incident and learn from it but
    it did look like Valtteri drifted across and left George nowhere to go.”

    Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff refused to pin blame on a single driver,
    but stated that Russell, who is managed by Mercedes, has “lots to learn”.

    Tags: bottasBrawnF1Russell

    (In other words, Wolff says, since we supply your engines,
    no Williams is allowed to pass a Mercedes!)

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 19 12:38:04 2021
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    What a pathetic, little, entitled, whinger, Wolff.

    (Saved you a click and the read.)



    On 4/19/2021 12:21 PM, a425couple wrote:
    from https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/04/19/brawn-bottas-left-russell-nowhere-to-go-in-imola-crash/?fbclid=IwAR1I9S8wofGG31iiENoOx7_TU_MbvL8_EFHSulP65Top9oskzecxfQrZZHo


    Brawn: Bottas left Russell nowhere to go in Imola crash
    by Fergal Walsh 1 hour ago 0

    Formula 1 Managing Director Ross Brawn believes Valtteri Bottas left
    George Russell nowhere to go before their clash at Imola on Sunday.

    Both drivers were eliminated from the race in the violent impact at Turn
    2, with both men blaming each other for the collision.

    Russell was attempting to overtake Bottas for ninth place on the road,
    but claims the Finnish driver changed his position on the run into the corner, which ultimately resulted in Russell losing control after he
    touched the grass.

    Bottas affirmed that he always left enough space for a car on the
    outside line.

    A stewards investigation followed, but no punishment was handed out as
    they deemed the crash a racing incident.

    Writing in post-race column, Brawn indicated that Bottas was more to
    blame for the accident as he left Russell with little room at the high
    speed section of the track.

    There will no doubt be an intense post-mortem of the accident between Valtteri Bottas and George Russell, Brawn said.

    The positive thing is that both drivers escaped unhurt and the cars
    held up on impact to show how far weve come regarding the safety
    standards.

    Imola is quite a narrow track so theres not much space. When you add
    wet grass either side from the rain, it becomes very, very tricky.

    Im sure both drivers will analyse the incident and learn from it but
    it did look like Valtteri drifted across and left George nowhere to go.

    Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff refused to pin blame on a single driver,
    but stated that Russell, who is managed by Mercedes, has lots to learn.

    Tags: bottasBrawnF1Russell

    (In other words, Wolff says, since we supply your engines,
    no Williams is allowed to pass a Mercedes!)

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 19 09:49:01 2021
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    I think this is racing incident for me.

    Yes: Bottas moves a little to the right as the pass the gentle bend in
    the track, but he pretty much has to do so. On a drying track, on
    slicks, it would be extremely dangerous to try and tighten your line and
    thus leave the driest part of the track.

    And Russell's decision to try to overtake on what was going to be a
    wetter part of the track just wasn't very well considered. If you slow
    down the video, you can see and hear that his rear tires clearly lose
    grip BEFORE he gets onto the grass:

    <https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.russell-accuses-bottas-of-breaking-gentlemans-agreement-over-crash-as-finn.3Yt16bd4Z6cEqVb0mNq25B.html>


    Was he entitled to try it? Sure. But if he had that much pace advantage
    over Bottas, he could have waited a little bit for conditions to improve.




    On 2021-04-19 9:21 a.m., a425couple wrote:
    from https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/04/19/brawn-bottas-left-russell-nowhere-to-go-in-imola-crash/?fbclid=IwAR1I9S8wofGG31iiENoOx7_TU_MbvL8_EFHSulP65Top9oskzecxfQrZZHo


    Brawn: Bottas left Russell ‘nowhere to go’ in Imola crash
    by Fergal Walsh  1 hour ago  0

    Formula 1 Managing Director Ross Brawn believes Valtteri Bottas left
    George Russell “nowhere to go” before their clash at Imola on Sunday.

    Both drivers were eliminated from the race in the violent impact at Turn
    2, with both men blaming each other for the collision.

    Russell was attempting to overtake Bottas for ninth place on the road,
    but claims the Finnish driver changed his position on the run into the corner, which ultimately resulted in Russell losing control after he
    touched the grass.

    Bottas affirmed that he always left enough space for a car on the
    outside line.

    A stewards’ investigation followed, but no punishment was handed out as they deemed the crash a racing incident.

    Writing in post-race column, Brawn indicated that Bottas was more to
    blame for the accident as he left Russell with little room at the high
    speed section of the track.

    “There will no doubt be an intense post-mortem of the accident between Valtteri Bottas and George Russell,” Brawn said.

    “The positive thing is that both drivers escaped unhurt and the cars
    held up on impact to show how far we’ve come regarding the safety standards.

    “Imola is quite a narrow track so there’s not much space. When you add wet grass either side from the rain, it becomes very, very tricky.

    “I’m sure both drivers will analyse the incident and learn from it but
    it did look like Valtteri drifted across and left George nowhere to go.”

    Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff refused to pin blame on a single driver,
    but stated that Russell, who is managed by Mercedes, has “lots to learn”.

    Tags: bottasBrawnF1Russell

    (In other words, Wolff says, since we supply your engines,
    no Williams is allowed to pass a Mercedes!)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 20 11:42:45 2021
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    On 20/04/2021 4:21 am, a425couple wrote:
    from https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/04/19/brawn-bottas-left-russell-nowhere-to-go-in-imola-crash/?fbclid=IwAR1I9S8wofGG31iiENoOx7_TU_MbvL8_EFHSulP65Top9oskzecxfQrZZHo


    Brawn: Bottas left Russell ‘nowhere to go’ in Imola crash
    by Fergal Walsh  1 hour ago  0
    .

    A stewards’ investigation followed, but no punishment was handed out as they deemed the crash a racing incident.

    What would the stewards know anyway .


    Writing in post-race column, Brawn indicated that Bottas was more to
    blame for the accident as he left Russell with little room at the high
    speed section of the track.

    Why would he ?


    “There will no doubt be an intense post-mortem of the accident between Valtteri Bottas and George Russell,” Brawn said.

    No, because if was pretty straightforward.


    “The positive thing is that both drivers escaped unhurt and the cars
    held up on impact to show how far we’ve come regarding the safety standards.

    Incredible that only 'injury' was Bottas being 'winded' for a period.


    “Imola is quite a narrow track so there’s not much space. When you add wet grass either side from the rain, it becomes very, very tricky.

    That's something for RUS presumably has now learnt.

    “I’m sure both drivers will analyse the incident and learn from it but
    it did look like Valtteri drifted across and left George nowhere to go.”

    Yep. That is how you defend your position.


    Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff refused to pin blame on a single driver,
    but stated that Russell, who is managed by Mercedes, has “lots to learn”.

    Like "another car isn't going to make it easy for me".

    geoff

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