• Road & Track non-story

    From David Lesher@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 01:12:19 2024
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/03/05/formula-one-road-track-kate-wagner/>

    So this piece appeared on Road & Track's website briefly before it vanished.

    BUT too late, because Brewster Kahle had scooped it up.

    It's fun to speculate who exactly was so offended by it that is was Disappeared.

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20240301170542/https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a46975496/behind-f1-velvet-curtain/>

    I found it an enjoyable read.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Wed Mar 6 09:36:24 2024
    On 3/5/2024 8:12 PM, David Lesher wrote:
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/03/05/formula-one-road-track-kate-wagner/>

    So this piece appeared on Road & Track's website briefly before it vanished.

    BUT too late, because Brewster Kahle had scooped it up.

    It's fun to speculate who exactly was so offended by it that is was Disappeared.

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20240301170542/https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a46975496/behind-f1-velvet-curtain/>

    I found it an enjoyable read.



    To Liberty, #F1 and sponsors, virtue signaling is Job One.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to David Lesher on Wed Mar 6 10:39:32 2024
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.nascar, rec.autos.sport.indycar

    On 3/5/24 17:12, David Lesher wrote:
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/03/05/formula-one-road-track-kate-wagner/>

    So this piece appeared on Road & Track's website briefly before it vanished.

    BUT too late, because Brewster Kahle had scooped it up.

    It's fun to speculate who exactly was so offended by it that is was Disappeared.

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20240301170542/https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a46975496/behind-f1-velvet-curtain/>

    I found it an enjoyable read.
    (
    I do not know why, this seems to have a bug in it that has lost
    everything 3 times when I have hit send. I'll try again. Sorry for
    errors.)


    Thank you for providing us that.
    However, I found it mostly irritating.

    "If you wanted to turn someone into a socialist you could do it in about
    an hour by taking them for a spin around the paddock of a Formula 1
    race. The kind of money I saw will haunt me forever."

    She thinks viewing ostentatious wealth will turn a person from economic freedom, and capitalistic free enterprise into socialists. I think
    most people after viewing Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, will
    disagree. There are reasons that in the last 5 years 7.5 million
    people have swarmed into the USA.

    "We know there is a class system in America, a great divide between the
    haves and have-nots. To be a have-not and be talked to by the haves has
    an air of the farcical to it."

    No, there is not. There is a spread, with many constantly moving up,
    and many moving down. But the averages are regularly moving up.
    Adam Smith's unseen hand moving through the world's market have
    made most well fed and equipped.

    "The corporate entity in question was Mercedes-AMG sponsor INEOS, the petrochemical company. Not exactly the kind of institution a
    bicycle-loving, card-carrying socialist wants to get involved with."

    That show her bias clearly. Her mind was made up before she even started.
    Why mess with observations when the mind is closed?
    In motorsports F1 is the epitome of competitive capitalism. Winners
    are allowed to win. Is anyone here advocating that F1 make a rule
    that puts a 8 pound penalty on a car for each race they win?
    How about making the Concorde payments to each team equal?
    How about making them all use the same chassis?

    "I learned that I'm the kind of person who would rather be right than
    happy, would rather stand in my ivory tower than frolic in the fields
    below. I experienced firsthand the intended effect of allowing riffraff
    like me, those who distinguish themselves by way of words alone, to
    mingle with the giants of capitalism and their cultural attachés."

    The young lady who seems proud of being unable to drive,
    is quite disparaging of people who develop wealth. She will most likely continue to think of herself as 'righter' than most people in the world.





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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 09:33:57 2024
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.nascar, rec.autos.sport.indycar

    On 2024-03-06 10:39, a425couple wrote:
    On 3/5/24 17:12, David Lesher wrote:
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/03/05/formula-one-road-track-kate-wagner/>

    So this piece appeared on Road & Track's website briefly before it
    vanished.

    BUT too late, because Brewster Kahle had scooped it up.

    It's fun to speculate who exactly was so offended by it that is was
    Disappeared.

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20240301170542/https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a46975496/behind-f1-velvet-curtain/>

    I found it an enjoyable read.
    (
    I do not know why, this seems to have a bug in it that has lost
    everything 3 times when I have hit send.  I'll try again.  Sorry for errors.)


    Thank you for providing us that.
    However, I found it mostly irritating.

    "If you wanted to turn someone into a socialist you could do it in about
    an hour by taking them for a spin around the paddock of a Formula 1
    race. The kind of money I saw will haunt me forever."

    She thinks viewing ostentatious wealth will turn a person from economic freedom, and capitalistic free enterprise into socialists.  I think
    most people after viewing Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, will
    disagree.  There are reasons that in the last 5 years 7.5 million
    people have swarmed into the USA.

    "We know there is a class system in America, a great divide between the
    haves and have-nots. To be a have-not and be talked to by the haves has
    an air of the farcical to it."

    No, there is not.  There is a spread, with many constantly moving up,
    and many moving down.  But the averages are regularly moving up.
    Adam Smith's unseen hand moving through the world's market have
    made most well fed and equipped.

    Yes, there is a class system, and most who are down never have any
    chance of moving up.

    If the average wealth is rising, it is because the extremely rich are
    getting extremely richer.

    I suggest you look at the MEDIAN, rather than the mean.

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Apr 4 13:00:13 2024
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.nascar, rec.autos.sport.indycar

    On 4/4/2024 12:33 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-03-06 10:39, a425couple wrote:

    "We know there is a class system in America, a great divide between
    the haves and have-nots. To be a have-not and be talked to by the
    haves has an air of the farcical to it."

    No, there is not.  There is a spread, with many constantly moving up,
    and many moving down.  But the averages are regularly moving up.
    Adam Smith's unseen hand moving through the world's market have
    made most well fed and equipped.

    Yes, there is a class system, and most who are down never have any
    chance of moving up.

    If the average wealth is rising, it is because the extremely rich are
    getting extremely richer.

    I suggest you look at the MEDIAN, rather than the mean.

    It's important to examine the distribution.

    https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-03-25

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    Women tend to fare poorly in religions created by men.
    - Julia Scheeres

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Thu Apr 4 15:04:45 2024
    XPost: rec.autos.sport.nascar, rec.autos.sport.indycar

    On 2024-04-04 10:00, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 4/4/2024 12:33 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-03-06 10:39, a425couple wrote:

    "We know there is a class system in America, a great divide between
    the haves and have-nots. To be a have-not and be talked to by the
    haves has an air of the farcical to it."

    No, there is not.  There is a spread, with many constantly moving up,
    and many moving down.  But the averages are regularly moving up.
    Adam Smith's unseen hand moving through the world's market have
    made most well fed and equipped.

    Yes, there is a class system, and most who are down never have any
    chance of moving up.

    If the average wealth is rising, it is because the extremely rich are
    getting extremely richer.

    I suggest you look at the MEDIAN, rather than the mean.

    It's important to examine the distribution.

    https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-03-25


    Oh, I love that!

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