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    From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 9 13:15:58 2023
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this generation of tires just last to long.

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  • From fleemos876@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Sun Jul 9 21:53:02 2023
    On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:15:58 -0700 (PDT), XYXPDQ wrote:

    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of the
    season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this generation of tires just last to long.

    It was really nice to see McLaren back in the fight. It's the happiest
    we've ever seen Lando and Piastri. Let's hope they can be up there for the
    rest of the season. It would be nice to see Ferrari back in the fight as
    well. Albon put on a good drive as well.

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Sun Jul 9 17:59:21 2023
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this generation of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least) two
    different compounds in each race. Apparently some folks think pit stops
    are exciting: I am not one of them. They -- pit stops -- *can be*
    exciting -- if there is an error or delay. But this is relatively rare.

    The same objective or requiring at least one pit stop could be obtained
    by mandating that all cars needed to change their front wing. Or making
    a stop-and-go pass through the pit. It's an artificial ploy whichever
    way you look at it.

    If a team can get a single set of tires to last for the entire race,
    then kudos to them. If another team thinks they can do better by
    switching to a new set, then they should be free to do so.

    The requirement to make at least one pit stop hurts any team which
    doesn't need to make one. The pit stop introduces potential errors and
    is an unnecessary risk for those teams who would not otherwise make a stop.

    It follows from this that I am not a big fan of tires that only last for
    a minimum number of laps. In the normal course of things, a soft tire is
    not going to be as long lasting as a hard tire. If the rules were to
    specify that the soft should -- for the average car -- only last, let's
    say 1/3rd distance, and mediums only last 1/2 distance, teams could
    still opt for the hard, which should last the full distance (on average)
    and skip any pit stops if they can manage to either design a car that is
    easy on its tires or drive in a manner to preserve the tires.

    Teams who prioritize maximum speed may design a car that is faster but
    harder on its tire. Depending on how hard on its tires will either mean
    use of the soft or medium compound and a resulting pit stop as the tires
    wear out. A team that maximizes tire life can run the hard compound and
    avoid stopping, or run the mediums with one stop or, run the softs and
    make multiple stops. Lots of options.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Darryl Johnson on Mon Jul 10 09:27:38 2023
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of the
    season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this generation
    of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least) two different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte tyres is
    part of the 'spectacle.'

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 10 13:47:39 2023
    On 7/10/2023 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-10 06:27, News wrote:
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of
    the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this
    generation of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least) two
    different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte tyres
    is part of the 'spectacle.'


    And you'd be the first one to start whining if the tires weren't "shyte" about how the races were "boring".


    Nope, they're boring, including multi-year mandated use of shyte tyres.

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to News on Mon Jul 10 10:31:38 2023
    On 2023-07-10 06:27, News wrote:
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of the
    season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this generation
    of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least) two
    different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte tyres is
    part of the 'spectacle.'


    And you'd be the first one to start whining if the tires weren't "shyte"
    about how the races were "boring".

    Yes: the requirement to use at least two compounds is an artificiality
    to promote more interesting racing.

    And so is DRS.

    And so are the limits on spending and on use of computer analysis of aerodynamics, and wind tunnel time.


    So what?

    The races are fun to watch. We've had more than half of the teams get
    onto the podium this year.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 16:00:33 2023
    On 7/10/2023 3:54 PM, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 12:47, News wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-10 06:27, News wrote:
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of
    the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this
    generation of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least)
    two different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte tyres
    is part of the 'spectacle.'


    And you'd be the first one to start whining if the tires weren't
    "shyte" about how the races were "boring".


    Nope, they're boring, including multi-year mandated use of shyte tyres.

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

    Okay, so what would you do to make things not boring and the tires not shyte?  You have a free hand...what would you do?


    On this specific issue, invite tyre manufacturer competition, impose no
    tyre usage rules.

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to News on Mon Jul 10 14:54:44 2023
    On 7/10/2023 12:47, News wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-10 06:27, News wrote:
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of
    the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this
    generation of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least) two
    different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte tyres
    is part of the 'spectacle.'


    And you'd be the first one to start whining if the tires weren't
    "shyte" about how the races were "boring".


    Nope, they're boring, including multi-year mandated use of shyte tyres.

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

    Okay, so what would you do to make things not boring and the tires not
    shyte? You have a free hand...what would you do?
    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to News on Mon Jul 10 14:19:54 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 11:47:42 AM UTC-6, News wrote:

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

    x2

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to texas gate on Mon Jul 10 14:35:22 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:19:56 PM UTC-6, texas gate wrote:

    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 11:47:42 AM UTC-6, News wrote:

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

    x2

    check out his juvenile trolling behavior
    same as here

    https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Q4YShHRVfnE

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to News on Mon Jul 10 14:58:29 2023
    On 2023-07-10 13:00, News wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 3:54 PM, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 12:47, News wrote:
    On 7/10/2023 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-10 06:27, News wrote:
    On 7/9/2023 5:59 PM, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-09 4:15 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Good race today.

    Nice to see Mclaren has improved so much, should make the rest of >>>>>>> the season much more interesting.

    That teams could go medium-hard once again shows that this
    generation of tires just last to long.

    I have never been a big fan of the requirement to use (at least)
    two different compounds in each race.


    Despite recent durability developments, mandatory use of shyte
    tyres is part of the 'spectacle.'


    And you'd be the first one to start whining if the tires weren't
    "shyte" about how the races were "boring".


    Nope, they're boring, including multi-year mandated use of shyte tyres.

    Now fuck off and go back to bleating about iphone batteries.

    Okay, so what would you do to make things not boring and the tires not
    shyte?  You have a free hand...what would you do?


    On this specific issue, invite tyre manufacturer competition, impose no
    tyre usage rules.

    And you quickly get a tire war...

    ...huge expense...

    ...and in the end get the exact same result: tires that are awfully
    close to equal.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 10 15:09:40 2023
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:58:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And you quickly get a tire war...

    ...huge expense...

    ...and in the end get the exact same result: tires that are awfully
    close to equal.

    he told you to fuck off
    are you fucking stupid?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to texas gate on Mon Jul 10 16:30:57 2023
    On 2023-07-10 15:09, texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:58:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And you quickly get a tire war...

    ...huge expense...

    ...and in the end get the exact same result: tires that are awfully
    close to equal.

    he told you to fuck off
    are you fucking stupid?

    I've told you to fuck off numerous times...

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 12 17:46:41 2023
    On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 16:30:57 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2023-07-10 15:09, texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 3:58:32?PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And you quickly get a tire war...

    ...huge expense...

    ...and in the end get the exact same result: tires that are awfully
    close to equal.

    he told you to fuck off
    are you fucking stupid?

    I've told you to fuck off numerous times...

    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting
    different results.”

    Albert Einstein

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