• FIA "Academy" races for women drivers

    From bra@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 09:46:50 2022
    After three successful years of racing by women in the W Series, using the spec Tatus T318 1.8 litre turbo, the FIA has done an odd step back by creating a women's series using the slower Tatus T421 1.4 litre turbo.

    Why?

    W series racer Abbi Pulling recently did 50 laps in an F3, (six-cyl, 3.4 litre) and said the car was SO EASY to drive because an F3 car is extremely adaptable to any driver, whereas for some 'economy/equality' reason, the W Series cars were spec and
    barely adjustable at all.

    Three-time W Series champion Jamie Chadwick, who had won the UK's GT4 championship at age 16, could not get a seat with any F3 team

    So why would the FIA imagine that a big slow F4 'academy' cars is the way to attract women or sponsors?

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to bra on Sat Nov 19 20:19:58 2022
    On 11/18/22 09:46, bra wrote:
    After three successful years of racing by women in the W Series, using the spec Tatus T318 1.8 litre turbo, the FIA has done an odd step back by creating a women's series using the slower Tatus T421 1.4 litre turbo.

    Why?

    W series racer Abbi Pulling recently did 50 laps in an F3, (six-cyl, 3.4 litre) and said the car was SO EASY to drive because an F3 car is extremely adaptable to any driver, whereas for some 'economy/equality' reason, the W Series cars were spec and
    barely adjustable at all.

    Three-time W Series champion Jamie Chadwick, who had won the UK's GT4 championship at age 16, could not get a seat with any F3 team

    So why would the FIA imagine that a big slow F4 'academy' cars is the way to attract women or sponsors?


    Reformatting and continuing a "W series" for women in open wheel racing
    seems to me to be just continuing a failed concept.

    If "Three-time W Series champion Jamie Chadwick" can not get a good
    offer, what makes anyone think another year will do the trick?

    The "W Series" is not a financial success. It seems to be that
    a better way to spend the money is to sponsor Jamie, or another
    driver in a series where women have had success in the past.

    I think Pippa Mann is correct,
    "Pippa Mann, one of GB’s best IndyCar racers has called the
    new initiative ‘a backwards step.’ She would prefer to see
    women racers encouraged and financially supported in already
    existing competitions, elevating them to equal status.
    Segregating female racing drivers highlights the perceived
    disparity between men and women in motorsport."

    A couple women have made decent inroads in Indycar racing.
    Danica Patrick has won a race.
    Simona de Silvestro has come in 2nd.
    An investment in Paretta Autosport might make more sense
    than reinventing an entirely new wheel.

    see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paretta_Autosport

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 00:23:11 2022
    On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:20:01 PM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:

    Danica Patrick has won a race.

    on fuel strategy
    not speed

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  • From Geoff May@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 08:54:36 2022
    On 20/11/2022 04:19, a425couple wrote:
    [snipped]

    Reformatting and continuing a "W series" for women in open wheel racing
    seems to me to be just continuing a failed concept.

    I may be wrong but I was under the impression that W-Series was going to continue so this would, in effect, be a competitor series. If I did
    understand that correctly, that makes it harder for the efforts to succeed.

    [snipped]

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  • From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 13:39:19 2022
    W series never had a chance because it got no coverage. If they had gotten even one or two races a year on ESPN/Sky/ect it might have found an audience and some sponsorship money.

    One of the perma back marker teams should try to put a female driver in the car, even if she isn't very good it get a ton of media and the money that seems to always come with that. (yes, the super license system makes that really difficult)

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to texas gate on Sun Nov 20 18:35:45 2022
    On 11/20/22 00:23, texas gate wrote:

    On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 9:20:01 PM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:

    Danica Patrick has won a race.

    on fuel strategy

    That is true.

    not speed

    Well, partly true. She put herself in position by her speed,
    to be one of only 7 on the lead lap, so that she had the fuel
    conservation option. And she made it work, while all the
    other tried driving too fast, so had to pit again.

    "On lap 142, Roger Yasukawa stalled on the mainstretch with a brake
    failure. The ensuing caution period set up an exciting finish due to
    fuel strategy,[citation needed] as most teams were getting 51 laps on a
    single tank of fuel. The top seven leaders all pitted together, with
    Dixon coming out in the lead once again. On lap 148, Castroneves,
    Patrick, and Carpenter all returned to the pits to top off their tanks,
    in hopes of going the distance without one last pit stop, hoping that
    the race would go green to the finish.

    Shortly after the restart on lap 149, Patrick dropped back to seventh
    place (last car on the lead lap) in a fuel conservation strategy to have
    enough fuel to challenge the leader at the end of the race. With the
    race remaining green, during the final ten laps, most of the leaders,
    not having enough fuel to get to the end, ducked off the track for "splash-and-go" pit stops for fuel. Despite topping off his tank
    earlier, Ed Carpenter, getting poorer fuel economy than the rest of the lead-lap cars, was forced to pit for fuel. Castroneves inherited the
    lead with less than 5 laps to go, with Patrick charging in second place. Castroneves slowed his pace to conserve fuel, and Patrick took the lead
    with 2 laps to go. Patrick held on to win, and became the first female
    to win a race in the history of top-level American open wheel racing."

    Everyone can interpret that win how ever they wish.
    But Danica raced at pretty high levels of racing from 1998 thru 2004.
    Then raced in Indycar from 2005 thru 2011.
    Then raced in NASCAR Sprint Cup from 2012 thru 2016.

    There are a fair number of posters around here that keep saying
    the only way to get to the top levels of racing is to have very
    rich parents.
    Danica proves that false.
    She worked very hard and did very well to market herself.
    And, to me, that is the big thing.

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  • From Calum@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Mon Nov 21 09:56:08 2022
    On 20/11/2022 21:39, XYXPDQ wrote:
    W series never had a chance because it got no coverage. If they had gotten even one or two races a year on ESPN/Sky/ect it might have found an audience and some sponsorship money.

    It probably got more viewers on Channel 4 in the UK than it ever would
    have done on Sky. C4 gets higher viewing figures for their (now
    occasional) F1 races than Sky does - this year they got 2.4m for the
    British Grand Prix compared to Sky's 1.6m, and for last year's Abu Dhabi
    finale they attracted a peak of 4.4m compared to Sky's peak of 3.3m.

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