There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like

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On 8/2/2022 6:22 AM, Martin Harran wrote:

There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like

Playing a DFV or Matra V12 audio file on the speaker works a charm.

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Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> writes:

There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like

Let's face it, nobody likes the tour-de-wherever-the-fuck-they-cycle,
so clearly racing without engine noises is a non-starter.

Phil
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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles.

Last night I got talking to a couple in their new 'MACH E', Ford's electric Mustang. It has an 'engine sound button' you can press.
This gives a V-8 engine sound inside the cabin, but it is available outside only in reverse gear.

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Darryl Johnson wrote:

On 2022-08-05 7:13 PM, bra wrote:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com
wrote:

There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance
of engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about
problems arising from the absence of engine noise in electric
vehicles.

Last night I got talking to a couple in their new 'MACH E', Ford's
electric Mustang. It has an 'engine sound button' you can press.
This gives a V-8 engine sound inside the cabin, but it is available
outside only in reverse gear.

There is something inherently wrong about electronic engine noise
INSIDE THE CABIN!

+1

We talked about this this morning after a runner crossed the road
without a glance behind not far ahead of my diesel. An EV would have
had him.

Eventually there will be enough deaths for someone to take note and
realise EV will populate the roads more quickly than pedestrians and
cyclists will learn to change their habits.
Some noise will need to be generated in residential areas.

I would like it to be standardised sooner rather than later because if
we let manufacturers come up with their own solutions there will be a
mish mash of stylised implementations and we will end up with the same situation we have with indicators that on many cars (in the UK at
least) are not as easily and quickly discerned as they used to be; a
safety feature turned in to a stylised selling point with safety being
the loser.

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Bozo Bin
Alan Baker
Texasgate

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On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 1:45:31 PM UTC-4, Mark Jackson wrote:

On 8/6/2022 5:40 AM, Bigbird wrote:

I would like it to be standardised sooner rather than later because
if we let manufacturers come up with their own solutions there will
be a mish mash of stylised implementations and we will end up with
the same situation we have with indicators that on many cars (in the
UK at least) are not as easily and quickly discerned as they used to
be; a safety feature turned in to a stylised selling point with
safety being the loser.

Don't get me started about in-vehicle touchscreens replacing physical controls.

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Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
There's no nondestructive test
for indestructibility. - Randall Munroe

A year ago, my Subaru Legacy needed some body repairs, so I got a new Outback as a loaner.
I couldn't wait to get my own 7-year-old car back! Those touch screens are dangerously distracting and overcomplicated.

As for the noise issue ... as kids, my friends and I would put playing cards in the spokes of our bicycles to make them sound (sort of) like motorcycles.

Dan

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On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
engine noise in F1.

Two days ago I chatted to a couple who were in a new Ford "Mach E", named but not styled as a Mustang.
I asked the driver if he missed the old V8 sound, and he said LISTEN and pressed a dashboard button ---------- rumble-rumble V8.
He added "But it's only inside the cabin; it's broadcast outside only when you are reversing."

The same weekend I watched a visiting Tesla S Plaid recording a drag meet's highest speeds, and the traditional crowd was perturbed.
Until a young drag racer in a 427 cu.in. 1964 Chevy 2 'cut a perfect light' and beat the electric car, despite the Tesla being 12 mph faster at the finish lights.

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