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  • Re: Spain 2022 - What's with this stupid drone thing?

    From News@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon May 23 17:00:54 2022
    On 5/23/2022 4:46 PM, geoff wrote:

    Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

    Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used to.

    geoff


    Helicopters are hideously expensive per hour to operate, during
    practices, quallies, and races. The impact of rapidly and persistently escalating JET-A prices has only amplified costs.

    Cable-cams have been used along the pit straight for years, and in
    stadium events for a decade before that.

    Liberty's production cost cutting will undoubtedly continue to eliminate
    as much union scale camera and related video production labor as possible.

    Welcome to the penny-pinching spectacle.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 24 08:46:24 2022
    Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

    Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic, helo shots we are used to.

    geoff

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  • From bra@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 24 11:04:03 2022
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

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  • From News@21:1/5 to bra on Tue May 24 14:16:39 2022
    On 5/24/2022 2:04 PM, bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."


    Losing a great way to promote future events at his track, but WTH.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to bra on Tue May 24 11:43:49 2022
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
    came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue May 24 15:44:31 2022
    On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    And yes: goody for them
    Fuck off you miserable cock sucker.

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  • From build@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue May 24 23:13:53 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:43:55 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
    came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    Cool footage.

    build

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  • From Brian Lawrence@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed May 25 09:37:58 2022
    On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:

    Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

    Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used to.

    Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 07:58:30 2022
    On 5/24/2022 11:43 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
    came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    Yes. That was very nicely done.

    But in general, I dislike them and find them
    suddenly distracting. Them being allowed should
    definitely be announced at the driver's meeting.

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to Brian Lawrence on Wed May 25 18:04:05 2022
    Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:
    On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:
    Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

    Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used
    to.

    Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.

    I did some fermi calcs, and it's probably two orders of magnitude
    cheaper. Given that drones can do 0-200 in less than a second, I expect
    to see them bringing a new perspective on the starts too. Bring it on -
    I like it; I certainly prefer it to the helmet wobblicam. But we need
    more of them to make sure they pull their weight.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Phil Carmody on Wed May 25 11:46:38 2022
    On 5/25/2022 11:04 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
    Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:
    On 23/05/2022 21:46, geoff wrote:
    Ghastly overly wide-angle rushing (low altitude ?) swoops.

    Missed the well-thought-out, even artistic,  helo shots we are used
    to.

    Presumably it's a fraction of the cost of a dedicated helicopter.

    I did some fermi calcs, and it's probably two orders of magnitude
    cheaper. Given that drones can do 0-200 in less than a second, I expect
    to see them bringing a new perspective on the starts too. Bring it on -
    I like it; I certainly prefer it to the helmet wobblicam. But we need
    more of them to make sure they pull their weight.

    Phil


    Fermi? The back of an envelope without a pencil is all that's needed.

    'More' is not better. Properly thought out and deployed is better.

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  • From Slang@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 19:01:59 2022
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
    came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Slang on Wed May 25 13:16:17 2022
    On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S


    Rallye and Drifto versions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Phil Carmody on Wed May 25 13:51:24 2022
    On 5/25/2022 11:04 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:
    But we need
    more of them to make sure they pull their weight.

    What is the carrying capacity of a (European or African) sparrow?

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 11:37:49 2022
    On 2022-05-25 7:58 a.m., a425couple wrote:
    On 5/24/2022 11:43 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    Yes.  That was very nicely done.

    But in general, I dislike them and find them
    suddenly distracting.  Them being allowed should
    definitely be announced at the driver's meeting.

    And it was.

    They also kept it quite high up so that it wasn't distracting anyone.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Slang on Wed May 25 11:38:23 2022
    On 2022-05-25 10:01 a.m., Slang wrote:
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S

    What's got you so worked up?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to build on Wed May 25 11:28:27 2022
    On 2022-05-24 11:13 p.m., build wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:43:55 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."
    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video company
    came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    Cool footage.

    Yup!

    If you knew what you were looking for, you can see my little aluminum
    trailer and blue pop-up.

    There's another video they did that I couldn't find that shows a couple
    of seconds of the open wheel group headed for either practice or
    qualifying (or perhaps being released after a black flag; it was 9 years
    ago), but I remember having a discussion and it was decided that it
    would be best not to fly over us after that; it being one thing to have
    a drone hit your windshield if it should fall and quite another to be
    hit in the helmet.

    There are also some pretty cool videos that the created by editing
    together video taken by static cameras placed around the track to create
    and after-the-fact "television broadcast" of a race.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGiRe__4Z3o&t=11s>

    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to News on Wed May 25 11:43:35 2022
    On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
    On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to go
    home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S


    Rallye and Drifto versions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

    Yes.

    You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

    But would you rather a drone hit you...

    ...or a helicopter?

    :-)

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 12:17:57 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:43:39 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

    This from the king of stupid.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 12:16:05 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:38:25 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    What's got you so worked up?

    None of your business.
    You trolling creepy freak.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 15:27:56 2022
    On 5/25/2022 2:43 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
    On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to
    go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S


    Rallye and Drifto versions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

    Yes.

    You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

    But would you rather a drone hit you...

    ...or a helicopter?

    :-)


    Only a moron would operate a helicopter as you wrote.

    Which explains what you wrote.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to News on Wed May 25 14:05:52 2022
    On 2022-05-25 12:27 p.m., News wrote:
    On 5/25/2022 2:43 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-25 10:16 a.m., News wrote:
    On 5/25/2022 1:01 PM, Slang wrote:
    Il 24/05/2022 20:43, Alan ha scritto:
    On 2022-05-24 11:04 a.m., bra wrote:
    On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    At my local drag strip, Mister Starter told a drone enthusiast to
    go home and take his dam' drone with him.
    "Anyone who wants to watch can come in and pay their ten bucks."

    A few years ago, a racer who also ran a professional drone video
    company came out to our track and did some cool stuff...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG42Klp-rY>

    And yes: they had permission to fly directly over the track.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ECs-9A4oXs
    Aaarghhhhh...
    S


    Rallye and Drifto versions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo5gScJ-IU8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7QZmMtSD8

    Yes.

    You have discovered that humans can be stupid about anything.

    But would you rather a drone hit you...

    ...or a helicopter?

    :-)


    Only a moron would operate a helicopter as you wrote.

    Which explains what you wrote.

    Way to completely miss the point.

    Yes: both of those drone operators screwed up...

    ...but everyone walked away safely...

    ...because they were DRONES!

    Helicopter pilots wouldn't operate that way of course...

    ...but it's still an extreme regime to get low enough to follow a race.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 14:11:07 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    If you knew what you were looking for, you can see my little aluminum
    trailer and blue pop-up.

    Where is the footage of you getting
    the fuck kicked out of yourself
    for being a mouthpiece dumb cunt?

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 13:43:44 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    They also kept it quite high up so that it wasn't distracting anyone.

    You are fucking high.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed May 25 14:59:38 2022
    On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    my little aluminum trailer

    this from a little man

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