• Vettel had a busy day last Thursday

    From Brian Lawrence@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 14 10:39:18 2022
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-no-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a
    hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time. Yes,
    he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an hour, and
    yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air travel regime
    that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used the
    hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a five-star
    hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car repair workshop
    for young offenders and telling them that “prejudice” should not deter
    them from contemplating careers in Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven car,
    but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining the panel
    on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show, fielding questions
    on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in
    his second language. These are the standards to which many would like to
    hold their MPs, never mind an F1 driver.

    ....."

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  • From build@21:1/5 to Brian Lawrence on Sat May 14 21:53:26 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:39:21 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-no-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time. Yes,
    he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an hour, and yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air travel regime
    that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used the
    hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a five-star
    hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car repair workshop for young offenders and telling them that “prejudice” should not deter them from contemplating careers in Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven car,
    but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining the panel
    on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show, fielding questions
    on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in his second language. These are the standards to which many would like to hold their MPs, never mind an F1 driver.

    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.

    build

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 17:16:32 2022
    On 15/05/2022 4:53 pm, build wrote:


    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    His initial only language was German. English is his 'second language',
    no matter how long for, how much, or how well he speaks and thinks in it.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.

    I am (tri-), or at least was to a reasonable level of proficiency at one
    point. Now somewhat diminished. Hardly relevant.


    geoff

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  • From Brian Lawrence@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 07:56:02 2022
    On 15/05/2022 05:53, build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:39:21 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-no-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a
    hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time. Yes,
    he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an hour, and
    yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air travel regime
    that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used the
    hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a five-star
    hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car repair workshop >> for young offenders and telling them that “prejudice” should not deter >> them from contemplating careers in Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven car,
    but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining the panel
    on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show, fielding questions
    on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in >> his second language. These are the standards to which many would like to
    hold their MPs, never mind an F1 driver.

    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.

    build

    Are you clueless? I didn't write the article, I was quoting from a DT
    article, written by a journo.

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  • From build@21:1/5 to Brian Lawrence on Sun May 15 02:10:30 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 4:56:04 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 05:53, build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:39:21 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-no-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a
    hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time. Yes, >> he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an hour, and >> yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air travel regime
    that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used the
    hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a five-star
    hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car repair workshop
    for young offenders and telling them that “prejudice” should not deter
    them from contemplating careers in Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven car,
    but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining the panel
    on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show, fielding questions >> on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in
    his second language. These are the standards to which many would like to >> hold their MPs, never mind an F1 driver.

    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.

    build
    Are you clueless? I didn't write the article, I was quoting from a DT article, written by a journo.

    Brian,
    My apology's, I was clearly mistaken and withdraw the comment. Sorry.

    build

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  • From Brian Lawrence@21:1/5 to build on Mon May 16 06:31:50 2022
    On 15/05/2022 10:10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 4:56:04 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 05:53, build wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:39:21 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-no-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a
    hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time. Yes, >>>> he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an hour, and >>>> yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air travel regime
    that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used the
    hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a five-star
    hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car repair workshop >>>> for young offenders and telling them that “prejudice” should not deter >>>> them from contemplating careers in Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven car, >>>> but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining the panel >>>> on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show, fielding questions >>>> on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in
    his second language. These are the standards to which many would like to >>>> hold their MPs, never mind an F1 driver.

    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.

    build
    Are you clueless? I didn't write the article, I was quoting from a DT
    article, written by a journo.

    Brian,
    My apology's, I was clearly mistaken and withdraw the comment. Sorry.

    build

    OK thanks.

    FWIW the journo was Oliver Brown, the Telegraph's Chief Sports Writer.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Mon May 16 09:56:56 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    My compliments sir, I have rarely seen a dick so large and all entirely
    your own work; you give a whole new, more phallic, interpretation to
    the term, self made.

    go fuck yourself idiot

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to build on Mon May 16 16:18:53 2022
    build wrote:

    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 7:39:21 PM UTC+10, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2022/05/13/sebastian-vettel-n o-hypocrite-elevating-athlete-activism-better/>

    "It is too glib, too uncharitable, to dismiss Sebastian Vettel as a hypocrite for expressing his ecological awareness on Question Time.
    Yes, he drives a car that burns through fuel at a rate of 220lbs an
    hour, and yes, his journeys to 23 races a year necessitate an air
    travel regime that would challenge Michael Palin.

    But before accusing him of sanctimony for airing his environmental
    concerns on national TV, it is worth considering how he had used
    the hours prior to his surprise appearance at the BBC’s Hackney
    studio.

    The four-time world champion had spent his morning not at a
    five-star hotel but at Her Majesty’s Prison Feltham, opening a car
    repair workshop for young offenders and telling them that
    “prejudice” should not deter them from contemplating careers in
    Formula One after their release.

    He later made his way into central London not by chauffeur-driven
    car, but on South West Trains. It was all as a prelude to joining
    the panel on a notoriously unpredictable current affairs show,
    fielding questions on everything from ‘Partygate’ to the Northern Ireland Protocol, all in his second language. These are the
    standards to which many would like to hold their MPs, never mind an
    F1 driver.

    ....."

    Seb has been speaking English his entire life. Since, say F3, most of
    his communication is in English. Saying it's his second language in
    the way you did is wrong. If anything German is his second language.

    Are you multi-lingual? i presume not.


    My compliments sir, I have rarely seen a dick so large and all entirely
    your own work; you give a whole new, more phallic, interpretation to
    the term, self made.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Mon May 16 10:02:04 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    I have rarely seen a dick so large

    and this is coming from a guy that has seen a lot of dicks

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  • From Inky Black@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 11:30:37 2022
    Thanks for the fab info and so good to see your name after all of these years. I have no idea what name I'm posting under. I'm Jefferson Rose, once Inky Black and other names?

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