• Re: Miami GP a Super Spreader Event

    From texas gate@21:1/5 to News on Tue May 10 12:52:55 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 10 15:33:57 2022
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to texas gate on Tue May 10 15:54:26 2022
    On 5/10/2022 3:52 PM, texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.


    And look what happened.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Edmund on Tue May 10 14:57:35 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 3:23:11 PM UTC-6, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/10/22 21:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.
    Take another three jabs put three mask on behind your keyboard and stop crying.

    lol

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to News on Tue May 10 23:23:08 2022
    On 5/10/22 21:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Take another three jabs put three mask on behind your keyboard and stop crying.

    Edmund

    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to News on Wed May 11 05:59:48 2022
    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 11 13:20:10 2022
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or indeed a
    cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest infections over here.
    Many of my friends/family/clients have been infected recently.
    Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days although feelings of
    fatigue often last for around 10 days.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 11 09:21:38 2022
    On 5/11/2022 6:59 AM, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.



    Go for the $10 bottled water and 100 t-shirts, self-isolate for the free
    case of Covid.

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Wed May 11 10:16:16 2022
    On 5/11/2022 9:20 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or indeed
    a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest infections over
    here. Many of my friends/family/clients have been infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days although feelings of
    fatigue often last for around 10 days.

    Recent New York State experience is consistent. A new subvariant swept
    the state in April, raising the community infection level to CDC "high"
    in nearly every county. This has begun receding over the past week or
    so, beginning downstate and up the Hudson valley. It doesn't seem to
    have spread much elsewhere, although some New England counties have
    recently turned red.

    Where we live (Monroe County) the new case rate peaked last week at
    about 1/4 the early January rate. Rates among the hospitalized were
    more like 2/3 of January's, while rates in ICUs only blipped up a bit.
    And deaths continued their decline, reaching July levels in April.

    This reflects a general picture that, perhaps optimistically, can be
    summarized as "getting less serious but more infectious." But it still
    can be nasty, and the risk of Long COVID (admittedly uncertain in
    absolute terms) hasn't gone away.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Wed May 11 10:45:31 2022
    On 5/11/2022 10:19 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:21:40 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
    On 5/11/2022 6:59 AM, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida. >>>
    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    Go for the $10 bottled water and 100 t-shirts, self-isolate for the free
    case of Covid.
    On the CDC's latest COVID map, New York State and the New England actually stand out as the national hot spot.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html


    Miami-Dade County at 15% with a bullet, visitors bringing back cases.

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to News on Wed May 11 07:19:28 2022
    On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:21:40 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
    On 5/11/2022 6:59 AM, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    Go for the $10 bottled water and 100 t-shirts, self-isolate for the free
    case of Covid.
    On the CDC's latest COVID map, New York State and the New England actually stand out as the national hot spot.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Fri May 13 14:05:05 2022
    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or indeed a
    cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest infections over here.
    Many of my friends/family/clients have been infected recently.
    Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days although feelings of
    fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.

    geoff

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to geoff on Thu May 12 19:34:59 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:05:14 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.

    you forgot to mention trump
    you numb fuck

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to geoff on Thu May 12 19:41:06 2022
    On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:05:14 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Americans

    and penises and anuses and semen and trump.
    fuck, build is right
    get fucking help

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to News on Thu May 12 20:09:26 2022
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    you survived aids, asshole

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to geoff on Fri May 13 10:12:35 2022
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients have been
    infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days
    although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Fri May 13 21:47:37 2022
    On 13/05/2022 8:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients have been
    infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days
    although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    Freedom has a price.

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 14 11:10:23 2022
    On 13/05/2022 11:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/05/2022 8:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here.  Many of my friends/family/clients have been
    infected recently.  Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days
    although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    Freedom has a price.

    As does idiocy.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 13 18:03:21 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 5:10:25 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

    As does idiocy.

    Yup. Pirating sky f1.
    Living on government handouts.
    Stoned out of your scull on prescription meds.
    The idiocy.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Sat May 14 13:37:28 2022
    On 13/05/2022 10:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients have been
    infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days
    although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    That was just the dead ones.

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 13 19:55:07 2022
    On 2022-05-13 4:10 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 13/05/2022 11:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 13/05/2022 8:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here.  Many of my friends/family/clients have been
    infected recently.  Typically described as a bad cold for 2/3 days
    although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    Freedom has a price.

    As does idiocy.

    If only it was only the idiots who suffered the consequences...

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  • From Redneck Rube@21:1/5 to texas gate on Sat May 14 13:12:52 2022
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Redneck Rube on Sat May 14 08:43:48 2022
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Edmund




    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 00:49:01 2022
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't
    wanna!

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 08:40:07 2022
    In article <t5nj34$p4l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida. >>
    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Just like so many other issues there are those that follow the
    narrative led by the nose and the media and others that look at the
    actual data themselves.

    Those that look will see that all over the world mask mandates have
    been brought in a couple of weeks before a massive vertical spike in
    the infection rate graphs, time and time again. Even in Germany where
    the cloth masks so loved by the media in the UK were not good enough,
    it had to be N95 masks but even that made no difference at all.

    There is NO serious evidence that the masks people are forced to wear
    make any difference to covid spread. I've had a good look at all the
    attempts to fudge this and fudge they are.

    If masks did work, then why couldn't we visit people in hospital or
    visit care homes or attend funerals or do nearly anything. The truth
    is the authorities did and do know they do nothing but they want the
    'covid theatre' to spread fear because with fear you can control
    people. In the UK in 2020, the government and its advisors told us
    masks will not help, don't wear them. But them the behaviour advisors
    in sage told the government we near to spread fear and in came mask
    mandates.

    Then we had vaccine passports not for use internationally but to
    prevent people going to clubs and bars. What a nonsense that turned
    out to be. I would remind you that in the end it became clear that
    being vaccinated did nothing to prevent you getting infected or to
    prevent you spreading it. So another complete load of media narrative
    nonsense or more truthfully lying by them and the government.

    But of course by all means, call people who call out this mass
    hysterical nonsense covid idiots or whatever if it makes you feel
    superior. People who like to insult others are almost always wrong.

    People can see the propaganda in Russian media for the Russian people
    but somehow fail to see the same propaganda from the media at home.


    Bob.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Sun May 15 00:19:49 2022
    On 14/05/2022 7:40 pm, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5nj34$p4l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida. >>>>
    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Just like so many other issues there are those that follow the
    narrative led by the nose and the media and others that look at the
    actual data themselves.

    Those that look will see that all over the world mask mandates have
    been brought in a couple of weeks before a massive vertical spike in
    the infection rate graphs, time and time again. Even in Germany where
    the cloth masks so loved by the media in the UK were not good enough,
    it had to be N95 masks but even that made no difference at all.

    There is NO serious evidence that the masks people are forced to wear
    make any difference to covid spread. I've had a good look at all the
    attempts to fudge this and fudge they are.

    If masks did work, then why couldn't we visit people in hospital or
    visit care homes or attend funerals or do nearly anything. The truth
    is the authorities did and do know they do nothing but they want the
    'covid theatre' to spread fear because with fear you can control
    people. In the UK in 2020, the government and its advisors told us
    masks will not help, don't wear them. But them the behaviour advisors
    in sage told the government we near to spread fear and in came mask
    mandates.

    Then we had vaccine passports not for use internationally but to
    prevent people going to clubs and bars. What a nonsense that turned
    out to be. I would remind you that in the end it became clear that
    being vaccinated did nothing to prevent you getting infected or to
    prevent you spreading it. So another complete load of media narrative nonsense or more truthfully lying by them and the government.

    But of course by all means, call people who call out this mass
    hysterical nonsense covid idiots or whatever if it makes you feel
    superior. People who like to insult others are almost always wrong.

    People can see the propaganda in Russian media for the Russian people
    but somehow fail to see the same propaganda from the media at home.


    Bob.


    Maybe because our media and scientists don't get sent to a gulag for
    publishing the truth.

    And neither 'here' do those who spread alternative views, no matter how
    false they may be.

    geoff

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 07:33:45 2022
    On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 8:55:11 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    If only it was only the idiots who suffered the consequences...

    this from a top shelf idiot

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 07:36:30 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 1:49:05 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!

    this from a top shelf asshole

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 13:10:56 2022
    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths
    there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 22:07:21 2022
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida. >>>>
    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund


    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From alister@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 20:47:36 2022
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even
    heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work
    to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF,
    you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save
    lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
    world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.





    --
    Politicians speak for their parties, and parties never are, never have
    been, and never will be wrong.
    -- Walter Dwight

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 13:15:41 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 2:10:58 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Irony.

    you numb cunt

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to alister on Sat May 14 23:51:47 2022
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits >>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even
    heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work
    to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF,
    you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save
    lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths
    there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
    world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?






    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 15:09:08 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 4:02:14 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Tell me:

    ok, fuck off stupid

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 23:46:52 2022
    On 5/14/22 22:10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    What did I just told you?



    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths there would have been without vaccination.

    You really have no clue what you're talking about and not the faintest idea
    how to interpreted data.





    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...

    As I said, you can't show anything.
    BTW what claim did I make about masks, remind me.


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.


    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 15:02:12 2022
    On 2022-05-14 2:46 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
    prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So >>>>>> it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    What did I just told you?

    Nothing of relevance.




    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.

    Show...

    ...them.





    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess
    deaths there would have been without vaccination.

    You really have no clue what you're talking about and not the faintest idea how to interpreted data.

    And you really haven't presented a thing to look at.






    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...

    As I said, you can't show anything.
    BTW what claim did I make about masks, remind me.

    There's a claim implicit in your statement.

    Tell me: do you think surgeons should where masks when the operate on you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 15:06:11 2022
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits >>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even >>>> heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work
    to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF, >>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save >>>> lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths >>> there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real
    world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence
    presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 15:10:30 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Got it.

    you aint got fuck all
    except a pathetic existence

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 00:20:34 2022
    On 5/15/22 00:02, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:46 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    What did I just told you?

    Nothing of relevance.




    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.

    Show...

    ...them.





    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths there would have been without vaccination.

    You really have no clue what you're talking about and not the faintest idea >> how to interpreted data.

    And you really haven't presented a thing to look at.






    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...

    As I said, you can't show anything.
    BTW what claim did I make about masks, remind me.

    There's a claim implicit in your statement.

    You mean I didn't make any claim at all, OK.



    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 00:18:19 2022
    On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits >>>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even >>>>> heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work >>>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF, >>>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save >>>>> lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths >>>> there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real >>>>>>> world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence
    presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    No you don't.
    nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance


    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sat May 14 15:25:35 2022
    On 2022-05-14 3:20 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:02, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:46 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
    prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. >>>>>>>> So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    What did I just told you?

    Nothing of relevance.




    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.

    Show...

    ...them.





    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess
    deaths there would have been without vaccination.

    You really have no clue what you're talking about and not the
    faintest idea
    how to interpreted data.

    And you really haven't presented a thing to look at.






    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...

    As I said, you can't show anything.
    BTW what claim did I make about masks, remind me.

    There's a claim implicit in your statement.

    You mean I didn't make any claim at all, OK.

    No. I mean there is a claim implicit in your statement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 15:27:10 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 4:25:16 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
    such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?

    you trolling fucking useless twat

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Sat May 14 17:39:20 2022
    On 2022-05-14 12:40 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5nj34$p4l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida. >>>>
    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.
    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Just like so many other issues there are those that follow the
    narrative led by the nose and the media and others that look at the
    actual data themselves.

    Those that look will see that all over the world mask mandates have
    been brought in a couple of weeks before a massive vertical spike in
    the infection rate graphs, time and time again. Even in Germany where
    the cloth masks so loved by the media in the UK were not good enough,
    it had to be N95 masks but even that made no difference at all.

    There is NO serious evidence that the masks people are forced to wear
    make any difference to covid spread. I've had a good look at all the
    attempts to fudge this and fudge they are.

    And fail to prevent ANY OF IT.


    If masks did work, then why couldn't we visit people in hospital or
    visit care homes or attend funerals or do nearly anything. The truth
    is the authorities did and do know they do nothing but they want the
    'covid theatre' to spread fear because with fear you can control
    people. In the UK in 2020, the government and its advisors told us
    masks will not help, don't wear them. But them the behaviour advisors
    in sage told the government we near to spread fear and in came mask
    mandates.

    Then we had vaccine passports not for use internationally but to
    prevent people going to clubs and bars. What a nonsense that turned
    out to be. I would remind you that in the end it became clear that
    being vaccinated did nothing to prevent you getting infected or to
    prevent you spreading it. So another complete load of media narrative nonsense or more truthfully lying by them and the government.

    Show your proof of that claim.


    But of course by all means, call people who call out this mass
    hysterical nonsense covid idiots or whatever if it makes you feel
    superior. People who like to insult others are almost always wrong.

    People can see the propaganda in Russian media for the Russian people
    but somehow fail to see the same propaganda from the media at home.


    Bob.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 20:14:49 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:39:23 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Show your proof of that claim.

    fuck off simpleton

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  • From build@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat May 14 21:16:14 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:06:13 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits >>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even >>>> heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work >>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF, >>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save >>>> lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths >>> there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real >>>>>> world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence >> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in >> their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?
    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    A couple of anecdotal points on masks.
    * Look at Denmark, Sweden(i think, the one who stayed open) and Taiwan. All quite different.
    * All 'basically' now say "no masks" and present their data.
    The data in all cases is different and well worth reading in full.
    I've got a new 'mask rule'. If someone else has a mask, mine goes on. No skin off my nose and they feel more comfortable.

    I was due for a booster in May. Based on the data last year when I was vaxed, I had a set idea of what booster I'd get. But in April I dug up my long text file on the vax to confirm my info and decision. Six months in a pandemic is a long time. Firstly I
    checked to see what data had been updated but about 2/3 of the pages or data had been removed totally. That's mostly from Gov/Uni sites but also Pharma sites. Whole research reports along with reviews, gone. No problem, wayback machine. Nope gone from
    there too. I almost grew a foil hat on the spot. But the explanation is much simpler than that. In their rush a huge number of people stuffed up. It's not a conspiracy, it's a stuffup. Of the data left about half had changed but annoyingly they had
    mostly not notated the changes. The data that's still there and unchanged was all on the conservative side.
    So in summary. The data that said it was really very effective has gone and the data that shows it's mildly effective is still there.

    * Is it poisonous? I and "everyone" I know are still alive apart from those who reached an age related departure. Why don't I know anyone who was killed or injured by it? of the few who say they know of someone who died: "What's their name?" "I can't
    tell you.", etc. That's not to say there are no deaths or no adverse reactions, there are but lived experience shows they are rare.
    * Is it effective? Again from all the people around me (except me), no. Everyone (except me) who's been around it has got it. I've been a "close contact" more often than I can remember as it swept through our area. But, no confirmed positive tests. So
    was that the vax or am I just one of those who are immune? (I've never had the flu either.)
    * Does it reduce illness? Only 2 people I know went to hospital. And it seems many if not most had absolutely no symptoms like my youngest who I had to "nurse" while he was isolated. Basically by nurse I mean "slave". "Dad, I'm not allowed to ..., can
    you do ..." Little bugga :-). So either it is effective at reducing illness or the virus is not as bad as claimed. Both have solid cases that hold up.
    * The interesting bit is that those few i know who did not take the vax had the same sorts of reactions as those who did have the vax.
    My summary:
    If you are anti-vax (anti-mask), take your hat off.
    If you are pro-vax (pro-mask) take your 'obedience' glasses off.
    Talk nicely with the people you know. The truth is where it usually is, somewhere in the middle.

    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Another certain thing that can be proved, is that "The Science" is not an answer or fact. It is an "excuse". So if someone says "The Science" and hides behind it then you know they are 'Bovine Excrementing'.

    build

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to build on Sat May 14 21:23:02 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:16:15 PM UTC-6, build wrote:


    My summary:

    logoff dr fuckhead

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 17:11:03 2022
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.

    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sun May 15 17:08:29 2022
    On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund



    I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so much
    more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who
    apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be brainwashed.

    geoff

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  • From build@21:1/5 to build on Sat May 14 22:13:27 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:16:15 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:06:13 AM UTC+10, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote: >>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US. >>>>>>>>
    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even
    heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work >>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF,
    you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all
    causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save
    lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths
    there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real >>>>>> world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just >>>>> doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence >> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in >> their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?
    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.
    A couple of anecdotal points on masks.
    * Look at Denmark, Sweden(i think, the one who stayed open) and Taiwan. All quite different.
    * All 'basically' now say "no masks" and present their data.
    The data in all cases is different and well worth reading in full.
    I've got a new 'mask rule'. If someone else has a mask, mine goes on. No skin off my nose and they feel more comfortable.

    I was due for a booster in May. Based on the data last year when I was vaxed, I had a set idea of what booster I'd get. But in April I dug up my long text file on the vax to confirm my info and decision. Six months in a pandemic is a long time. Firstly
    I checked to see what data had been updated but about 2/3 of the pages or data had been removed totally. That's mostly from Gov/Uni sites but also Pharma sites. Whole research reports along with reviews, gone. No problem, wayback machine. Nope gone from
    there too. I almost grew a foil hat on the spot. But the explanation is much simpler than that. In their rush a huge number of people stuffed up. It's not a conspiracy, it's a stuffup. Of the data left about half had changed but annoyingly they had
    mostly not notated the changes. The data that's still there and unchanged was all on the conservative side.
    So in summary. The data that said it was really very effective has gone and the data that shows it's mildly effective is still there.

    * Is it poisonous? I and "everyone" I know are still alive apart from those who reached an age related departure. Why don't I know anyone who was killed or injured by it? of the few who say they know of someone who died: "What's their name?" "I can't
    tell you.", etc. That's not to say there are no deaths or no adverse reactions, there are but lived experience shows they are rare.
    * Is it effective? Again from all the people around me (except me), no. Everyone (except me) who's been around it has got it. I've been a "close contact" more often than I can remember as it swept through our area. But, no confirmed positive tests. So
    was that the vax or am I just one of those who are immune? (I've never had the flu either.)
    * Does it reduce illness? Only 2 people I know went to hospital. And it seems many if not most had absolutely no symptoms like my youngest who I had to "nurse" while he was isolated. Basically by nurse I mean "slave". "Dad, I'm not allowed to ..., can
    you do ..." Little bugga :-). So either it is effective at reducing illness or the virus is not as bad as claimed. Both have solid cases that hold up.
    * The interesting bit is that those few i know who did not take the vax had the same sorts of reactions as those who did have the vax.
    My summary:
    If you are anti-vax (anti-mask), take your hat off.
    If you are pro-vax (pro-mask) take your 'obedience' glasses off.
    Talk nicely with the people you know. The truth is where it usually is, somewhere in the middle.

    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Another certain thing that can be proved, is that "The Science" is not an answer or fact. It is an "excuse". So if someone says "The Science" and hides behind it then you know they are 'Bovine Excrementing'.

    build

    BTW. I suggest reading an article in the BJM: (Something like) The Illusion Of Evidence Based Medicine. It is worth the time, it's not a long read.
    build

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  • From build@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat May 14 22:15:05 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff

    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

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  • From build@21:1/5 to build on Sat May 14 22:16:13 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 17:21:03 2022
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build

    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff

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  • From build@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat May 14 22:45:43 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build
    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff

    * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?
    * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?

    I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.

    build

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 09:36:18 2022
    On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US. >>>>>>>>>>>
    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits >>>>>>>>>> private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked or even >>>>>>> heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of work >>>>>>> to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, big IF, >>>>>>> you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all >>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs did save >>>>>>> lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess deaths >>>>>> there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real >>>>>>>>> world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just >>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe evidence >>>>> presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with men in >>>>> their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    No you don't.
    nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance

    I'll ask you again:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?

    And still no data.

    Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
    I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
    over again.





    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From build@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 00:15:36 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:45:44 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build
    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff
    * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?
    * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?

    I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.

    build

    Hmmm, no reply.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun May 15 09:47:29 2022
    On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund



    I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be brainwashed.

    geoff
    eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
    Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
    with data.

    Let me guess.... :-)

    Edmund

    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to build on Sun May 15 23:47:18 2022
    On 15/05/2022 5:45 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build
    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff

    * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?

    In the situation of a pandemic, yes.

    * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are you serious?

    What do you get from "... argue these authors" - that the opinions are
    solid proven fact ?

    Have you read anything/everything from BMJ with a contrary POV ?


    I'm serious about those questions. If you are serious, I'll easily demonstrate how wrong those statements are.

    build

    Don't bother. You will never concede anything to be true that isn't a reactionary extreme conservative mantra.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun May 15 23:54:55 2022
    On 15/05/2022 11:47 pm, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:45 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed
    and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human
    Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build
    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff

    * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow your
    germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?

    In the situation of a pandemic, yes.

    * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are
    you serious?

    What do you get from "... argue these authors" - that the opinions are
    solid proven fact ?


    Not to mention the word in red at the top - "Opinion".

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sun May 15 23:48:34 2022
    On 15/05/2022 7:47 pm, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
    prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So >>>>>> it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund



    I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so
    much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who
    apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be
    brainwashed.

    geoff
    eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
    Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
    with data.

    Let me guess.... :-)

    Edmund


    I guess you're not much in touch with the real world then ...

    geoff

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  • From alister@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sun May 15 14:29:27 2022
    On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:36:18 +0200, Edmund wrote:

    On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and >>>>>>>>>>> prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination >>>>>>>>>>> proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked >>>>>>>> or even heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that >>>>>>>>>> is nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for. >>>>>>>>
    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of >>>>>>>> work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. >>>>>>>> IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching "Excess
    Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing >>>>>>>> like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess >>>>>>> deaths there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the >>>>>>>>>> real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just >>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you he >>>>>> has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
    evidence presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons
    sleep with men in their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    No you don't.
    nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance

    I'll ask you again:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
    such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?

    And still no data.

    Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
    I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all over again.


    We did, which is why we know anything we post will be disregarded as hear-
    say

    unless it comes from a krank, screwball or demon/witch conspiracy theorist


    --
    Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sun May 15 08:29:31 2022
    On 2022-05-15 12:36 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and >>>>>>>>>>> prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a >>>>>>>>>>> paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked >>>>>>>> or even
    heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for. >>>>>>>>
    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of >>>>>>>> work
    to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, >>>>>>>> big IF,
    you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all >>>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs
    did save
    lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many excess >>>>>>> deaths
    there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the real >>>>>>>>>> world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just >>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you
    he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
    evidence
    presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with
    men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    No you don't.
    nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance

    I'll ask you again:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
    such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?

    And still no data.

    Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
    I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
    over again.


    Really?

    Point me to this discussion.

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to alister on Sun May 15 10:57:16 2022
    On 5/15/2022 9:29 AM, alister wrote:
    On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:36:18 +0200, Edmund wrote:

    On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:

    ----- snipped a lot ------

    I'll ask you again:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love (assuming
    such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?


    What a/an...
    unintelligent
    ignorant
    dense
    brainless
    mindless
    foolish
    dull-witted
    dull
    slow-witted
    witless
    dunce-like
    simpleminded
    empty-headed
    vacuous
    vapid
    half-witted
    idiotic
    moronic
    imbecilic
    obtuse
    doltish
    thick
    dim
    dumb
    dopey
    crazy
    birdbrained
    pea-brained
    pig-ignorant
    brain-dead
    boneheaded
    lamebrained
    thickheaded
    daft
    silly
    scatterbrained
    crack-brained
    nonsensical
    unthinking
    unwise
    short-sighted
    inane
    absurd
    ludicrous
    ridiculous
    laughable
    asinine
    insane
    dumb-ass
    half-assed
    ...stupid thing to say.


    (apologies to/if wrong author quoted)

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun May 15 17:25:32 2022
    On 5/15/22 13:48, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 7:47 pm, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund



    I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be brainwashed.

    geoff
    eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
    Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
    with data.

    Let me guess.... :-)

    Edmund


    I guess you're not much in touch with the real world then ...

    geoff

    Your " real world" from which you cannot show anything, good point!




    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Sun May 15 08:30:07 2022
    On 2022-05-15 12:47 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 07:08, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 8:07 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in mask-avoiding >>>>>>>> Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US.

    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and
    prohibits private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So >>>>>> it is a paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.
    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked
    or even heard about the real figures.



    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is
    nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for.

    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot of
    work to show you and then being told that you don't believe it.
    IF, big IF, you really are interested, they searching
    "Excess Deaths" of all causes, and yes that number tells us IF
    a thing like the jabs did save lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.


    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make
    in the real world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just
    doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.

    Edmund



    I'm so relieved that there are a couple of people here that are so
    much more clever than the vast majority of scientists and medics who
    apparently are so vulnerable have all allowed themselves to be
    brainwashed.

    geoff
    eeehh that vast majority of scientists and medics?, OK
    Why don't you specify what you have in mind and back it up
    with data.

    Let me guess.... :-)

    Edmund


    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Sun May 15 09:31:00 2022
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 09:46:46 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 10:31:02 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    this from the village idiot

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 17:28:28 2022
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Bob.

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 19:04:30 2022
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Sun May 15 13:15:30 2022
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Sun May 15 14:31:23 2022
    On 2022-05-15 11:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    You mean like minuscule aerosol droplets that are exhaled, right?


    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Except they're not "airborne" on their own.

    They're in exactly the same aerosol droplets.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun May 15 14:39:46 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:31:25 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    They're in exactly the same aerosol droplets.

    Fuck off Dr Stupid.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Heron on Mon May 16 11:51:23 2022
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
        Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
         Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know ? We have more expert experts even here, apparently.

    geoff

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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 14:56:55 2022
    On 16/05/2022 1:29 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 12:36 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:25, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 3:18 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/15/22 00:06, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-14 2:51 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 22:47, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:10:56 -0700, Alan wrote:

    On 2022-05-14 1:07 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 09:49, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-13 11:43 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/14/22 07:12, Redneck Rube wrote:
    texas gate wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, News wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding
    Florida.

    Get fucking real.
    Masks are not mandatory at any sporting events in the US. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    but you have a guvner who actually discourages masks, and >>>>>>>>>>>> prohibits
    private businesses from asking for vaccination proof. So it >>>>>>>>>>>> is a
    paradise for freedummkopfs.


    So why do you care if you think you know it all?

    Never mind that those jabs saved exactly NO lives.

    Because you know it all.

    Nope because that is what the figures tell us.

    Figures you won't present of course...

    Well "us" is obviously not include you because you never looked >>>>>>>>> or even
    heard about the real figures.

    So show them.




    Never mind because this are just the cold hard facts, so that is >>>>>>>>>>> nothing for brainwashed loons like yourself.

    "cold hard facts" you don't actually provide any support for. >>>>>>>>>
    I did follow it closely and I am really not going to do a lot >>>>>>>>> of work
    to show you and then being told that you don't believe it. IF, >>>>>>>>> big IF,
    you really are interested, they searching "Excess Deaths" of all >>>>>>>>> causes, and yes that number tells us IF a thing like the jabs >>>>>>>>> did save
    lives or not.
    Spoiler: they didn't.

    You can only know that, if you can magically show how many
    excess deaths
    there would have been without vaccination.



    Now show us what a difference a mask ( mandate ) make in the >>>>>>>>>>> real
    world.
    So us some figures.

    Really?

    I see you don't have it either.

    You're the one making all the claims here...


    Because it looks like you're just a reactionary asshole who just >>>>>>>>>> doesn't wanna!

    That is only because you are misinformed.


    LOL

    Irony.

    Arguing Covid with Edmund is as pointless as arguing F1 with you >>>>>>> he has a fixed viewpoint that is not open to debate.
    he will ignore figures from world respected experts to believe
    evidence
    presented by a discredited Dr who thinks that Deamons sleep with >>>>>>> men in
    their dreams to collect their sperm.

    What figures? Show them.
    Pfizer documents?

    So you want others to show figures...

    ...but not you.

    Got it.

    No you don't.
    nor you showed any mask data but a all the more arrogance

    I'll ask you again:

    Do you want surgeons to operate on you and/or those you love
    (assuming such exist)...

    ...without wearing masks?

    And still no data.

    Do I have to mention we had the exact same discussion here before,
    I explained it clearly and now - surprise surprise - you start all
    over again.


    Really?

    Point me to this discussion.

    The argument is pointless, people will believe whatever they want to
    believe. Usually because it means that they would have to do something
    that they don't want to. Don't want to wear a mask - believe that they
    do no good, don't want to get vaccinated - come up with weird conspiracy theories about vaccines, don't want to make sacrifices now to help
    secure the future - don't believe in climate change.

    No matter what facts you can come up with, you'll never change their
    attitude.

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon May 16 09:04:39 2022
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of >>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear >>>> masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know ? We have more expert experts even here, apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too
    serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will
    have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing
    to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval
    warm period) that data was air brushed from history.



    Bob.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Mon May 16 10:17:13 2022
    On 2022-05-16 1:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you?

    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their
    breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of >>>>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear >>>>>> masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know ? We have more expert experts even here,
    apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too
    serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will
    have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing
    to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval
    warm period) that data was air brushed from history.

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    Got it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 10:24:41 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 11:17:16 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    and you a fucking idiot

    Got it.

    you aint got fuck all

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Mon May 16 11:43:51 2022
    On 2022-05-16 11:17 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/16/22 19:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 1:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
        geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
         Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
          Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you? >>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their >>>>>>>> breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last
    couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons >>>>>>>> wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know  ?  We have more expert experts even
    here,
    apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too
    serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will
    have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing
    to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval
    warm period) that data was air brushed from history.

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    Got it.

    Well you don't even know what a conspiracy is.
    The things he just told you aren't even hidden!

    You think "conspiracy" means "hidden" or even implies it?

    How sad your grasp of the language.

    Granted, your news source, the MSM-only won't mention it.

    Riiiiiiiiiight.

    Because the mainstream media just HATES big scoops.

    Oh and the former respectable NASA did not only removed warm
    periods in from the past, nope, they even falsified their own data
    to suit the narrative.

    Proof, please!

    Of course you, MSM-only never heard a thing about it.

    And your sources are?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 20:17:44 2022
    On 5/16/22 19:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 1:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
        geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
         Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
          Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you? >>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all.

    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their >>>>>>> breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of >>>>>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear >>>>>>> masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling
    into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know  ?  We have more expert experts even here, >>> apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too
    serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will
    have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing
    to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval
    warm period) that data was air brushed from history.

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    Got it.

    Well you don't even know what a conspiracy is.
    The things he just told you aren't even hidden!
    Granted, your news source, the MSM-only won't mention it.
    Oh and the former respectable NASA did not only removed warm
    periods in from the past, nope, they even falsified their own data
    to suit the narrative.
    Of course you, MSM-only never heard a thing about it.

    Edmund



    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon May 16 19:12:45 2022
    geoff wrote:

    On 13/05/2022 10:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients have
    been infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for
    2/3 days although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10
    days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring
    advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    That was just the dead ones.


    I'm sorry, your comments make no sense.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 12:11:48 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 12:43:53 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    How sad your grasp of the language.

    speaking of sad

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Mon May 16 12:14:28 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:12:47 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    I'm sorry, your comments make no sense.

    sorry is for pussys
    you fucking pussy

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 22:48:13 2022
    On 5/16/22 20:43, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 11:17 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/16/22 19:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 1:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
        geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
         Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
          Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you? >>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all. >>>>>>>
    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their >>>>>>>>> breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last couple of >>>>>>>>> years I'm really surprised people still don't know why surgeons wear >>>>>>>>> masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear
    protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling >>>>>>> into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know  ?  We have more expert experts even here,
    apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too
    serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will
    have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing
    to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval
    warm period) that data was air brushed from history.

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    Got it.

    Well you don't even know what a conspiracy is.
    The things he just told you aren't even hidden!

    You think "conspiracy" means "hidden" or even implies it?

    Yup, I do, conspiracies are done in secrecy.
    Funny that you think conspiracies are out in the open for
    everyone to see, yet you never heard of anything.
    Fuzzy logic.


    How sad your grasp of the language.

    Granted, your news source, the MSM-only won't mention it.

    Riiiiiiiiiight.

    Because the mainstream media just HATES big scoops.

    Oh and the former respectable NASA did not only removed warm
    periods in from the past, nope, they even falsified their own data
    to suit the narrative.

    Proof, please!

    Why, all you gonne do is disbelieve it, ignore it and next week
    you can't even remember it.

    Of course you, MSM-only never heard a thing about it.

    And your sources are?

    So you can say my sources aren't good enough for you?,
    pointless.

    Edmund



    --
    “The further a society drift from the truth,
    the more it will hate those who speak it”

    George Orwell

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Tue May 17 09:27:17 2022
    On 17/05/2022 7:12 am, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 13/05/2022 10:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu or
    indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest
    infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients have
    been infected recently. Typically described as a bad cold for
    2/3 days although feelings of fatigue often last for around 10
    days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring
    advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    That was just the dead ones.


    I'm sorry, your comments make no sense.


    You cannot see the irony in that over a million dead Americans would be thankful for the advice that C19 is a bad cold for 2/3 days and 10 days
    of being a bit fatigued ?

    Of course not I'm not suggesting that this is not the case for many
    (most ?) victims, of the Omicron variant at least ...

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Edmund on Mon May 16 15:57:55 2022
    On 2022-05-16 1:48 p.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/16/22 20:43, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 11:17 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 5/16/22 19:17, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-05-16 1:04 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <ZoWdnauLfuJmDBz_nZ2dnUU7-YudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
        geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 16/05/2022 6:15 am, Heron wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 1:04 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r9s4$epm$2@dont-email.me>,
         Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-05-15 9:28 a.m., Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <t5r69v$k6v$2@dont-email.me>,
          Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Would you want a surgeon to wear a mask when he operates on you? >>>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Oh yes, but not for the reason you would like it to be at all. >>>>>>>>
    Really?

    And what would that be then?


    They don't wear them in a futile attempt to stop viruses in their >>>>>>>>>> breath.

    They don't?

    What do they wear them for?


    This has come up and been shot down so often over the last >>>>>>>>>> couple of
    years I'm really surprised people still don't know why
    surgeons wear
    masks.

    Certainly, they're not going to learn it here from you.

    :-)

    The problem with an open wound is bacteria. Medical staff wear >>>>>>>> protective clothing to reduce the possibility of anything falling >>>>>>>> into the wound that carries bacteria.

    Nothing to do with trying to stop an airborne virus.

    Bob.

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/why-doctors-wear-masks

    Yeah but what would they know  ?  We have more expert experts even >>>>>> here,
    apparently.

    There is an agenda going on have you not noticed this?

    We have two problems at the moment that are global and supposedly too >>>>> serious for nation's to deal with themselves. Those are:

    Climate change
    Covid 19

    In the case of Covid the WHO are currently engaged with national
    governments to get an agreement that in future pandemics the WHO will >>>>> have full control over and above national governments. World
    government led mainly by the Chinese.

    Climate change is also a tool for a similar plot by the WEF.

    In the UK the prime minister is known to be a WEF puppet and often
    wears a badge of support on his jacket. Have you read what the WEF
    openly plan to do? They're quite open about their plans.

    If this doesn't terrify you, you simply don't understand the
    implications.

    By blindly following the globalist and leftist media and it's
    propaganda, the world is sleep walking into a totalitarian world of
    control.

    Climate change is very slight, cyclic and not linear and has nothing >>>>> to do with man.

    Covid19 came out of a lab in china that much is known. It's not
    certain yet if that was accidental or intentional.

    So don't trust things that suddenly appear in order to backup
    propaganda. Read stuff from a few years back where there is more
    truth. Simple things like Nasa showing the warmest period on record
    in the United states was in the mid 1930s. Before (like the medieval >>>>> warm period) that data was air brushed from history.

    You're a conspiracy theorist nutter.

    Got it.

    Well you don't even know what a conspiracy is.
    The things he just told you aren't even hidden!

    You think "conspiracy" means "hidden" or even implies it?

    Yup, I do, conspiracies are done in secrecy.

    You are utterly wrong.

    Funny that you think conspiracies are out in the open for
    everyone to see, yet you never heard of anything.
    Fuzzy logic.

    Nope. I never said that all conspiracies are "out in the open".



    How sad your grasp of the language.

    Granted, your news source, the MSM-only won't mention it.

    Riiiiiiiiiight.

    Because the mainstream media just HATES big scoops.

    Oh and the former respectable NASA did not only removed warm
    periods in from the past, nope, they even falsified their own data
    to suit the narrative.

    Proof, please!

    Why, all you gonne do is disbelieve it, ignore it and next week
    you can't even remember it.

    So much easier not to have to prove what you say...

    Just claim that there's a conspiracy to hide the truth!


    Of course you, MSM-only never heard a thing about it.

    And your sources are?

    So you can say my sources aren't good enough for you?,
    pointless.

    Yeah... ...much better for you never to have to actually cite a source...

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 16:07:47 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:57:59 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    You are utterly wrong.

    and you a fucking idiot

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 17:38:11 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:57:59 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    You are utterly wrong.

    opinions are like assholes

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 18:06:54 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:57:59 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    much better for you

    you fucking queer ass freak
    fuck off you fucking weirdo cock sucker

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon May 16 18:01:04 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:57:59 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Yeah... ...much better for you never to have to actually cite a source...

    ya right pussy
    then you cant suck his cock further

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to geoff on Tue May 17 06:35:33 2022
    geoff wrote:

    On 17/05/2022 7:12 am, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 13/05/2022 10:12 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 12/05/2022 1:20 am, Bigbird wrote:
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    On 5/10/2022 14:33, News wrote:
    New cases rolling in, though hardly surprising in
    mask-avoiding Florida.

    And everyone will be over it by Friday.

    While I'd still avoid catching it, just as I would the flu
    or indeed a cold, that does seem to be the way of the latest infections over here. Many of my friends/family/clients
    have been infected recently. Typically described as a bad
    cold for 2/3 days although feelings of fatigue often last
    for around 10 days.


    Over a million Americans would thank you for that reassuring
    advice.


    What advice? To "avoid catching it"? Only a million...

    That was just the dead ones.


    I'm sorry, your comments make no sense.


    You cannot see the irony in that over a million dead Americans would
    be thankful for the advice that C19 is a bad cold for 2/3 days and 10
    days of being a bit fatigued ?


    No.

    Oh I see, you misinterpret anecdotal experience as advice. Life as an
    Aesop fable.

    Of course not I'm not suggesting that this is not the case for many
    (most ?) victims, of the Omicron variant at least ...


    ...but you have a problem with people sharing that experience.

    You have been happy enough for me to say that I knew a lot of old folks
    keeling over and with their last breath whispering "if only someone had
    told me it wasn't just a cold". :)

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed May 18 12:49:05 2022
    On 15/05/2022 11:54 pm, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 11:47 pm, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:45 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:21:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 5:16 pm, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:15:06 PM UTC+10, build wrote:
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+10, geoff wrote:
    On 15/05/2022 4:16 pm, build wrote:


    The only 'Certain' thing is that 'Vax Mandates' must be removed >>>>>>>> and made illegal everywhere. They are very obviously a Human
    Rights abuse.
    Your human right to blow your germs all over me. Thanks.

    geoff
    Take off those glasses. Read my full comment.
    build

    Oh, and read "the Science" in the BJM article I referred to.
    build
    It is an opinion piece by two dudes with an agenda (see footnote). It
    is not 'the bible' (not that the bible isn't a fallacy).

    geoff

    * Firstly were you joking when you said "Your human right to blow
    your germs all over me." ??? Or was that a serious comment?

    In the situation of a pandemic, yes.

    * Second, is your comment: "It is an opinion piece..." a joke or are
    you serious?

    What do you get from "... argue these authors" - that the opinions are
    solid proven fact ?


    Not to mention the word in red at the top - "Opinion".

    geoff


    " ... argue these authors" and the red-lettered heading "Opinion" ...

    Gone a bit quiet on that one ?

    geoff

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to geoff on Tue May 17 17:53:51 2022
    On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 6:49:14 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Gone a bit quiet on that one ?

    fuck off troll
    get a life
    however hard that may be in that shithole NZ

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