Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear
of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton >> title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear
of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton >> title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
On 2021-09-29 11:09 AM, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the
rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis
Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
I am certain Toto referred to Mercedes car development and setup, not
having a physical alteration with Max (or any of the Red Bull team).
See a mental health professional.
This hatred you have cannot be healthy.
This hatred you have cannot be healthy.
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:24:47 AM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:
This hatred you have cannot be healthy.This is a big concern for?
You fucking weirdo
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bidEver since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go on forever...
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
On 2021-09-30 6:28 a.m., Dan the Man wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the
rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis
Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go
on forever...
I think the simplest explanation is probably correct.
Mercedes assumed that last year's car would continue it's winning ways
and so turned most of its engineering staff to the task of developing
next year's car.
And they were wrong. Red Bull continued to develop their car (along with Honda continuing engine development), and now they're pretty close to
equal.
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go on forever...
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and
Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely Mercedes decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of next year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.
On 1/10/2021 10:34 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and >>>>> Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the
rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis
Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go
on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely Mercedes >> decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of next >> year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car.
Yep. Not only that but teams were (again) limited by the FIA on how much in-season development they actually could do this year. RBR benefited
from the mandated late change to the rear floor which really hit
Mercedes low-rake car hard and was compounded by the afore-mentioned
limit on in-season development ('though it was mitigated somewhat by the stiffer side-wall tyres bought in part-way through the season).
Overall though it was still a net gain to RBR (and McLaren, Ferrari et
al) which I think was the reason for it, give the punters a better show
by nobbling the dominant team who (along with Aston) were running a
different car setup to the others.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.
... as well as that driver having a car and engine package that is now
closer to the Merc, allowing him to do so.
On 1/10/2021 9:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 1/10/2021 10:34 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if >>>> his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and >>>>>> Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely Mercedes >>> decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of next >>> year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car.
Yep. Not only that but teams were (again) limited by the FIA on how much in-season development
they actually could do this year. RBR benefited from the mandated late change to the rear floor
which really hit Mercedes low-rake car hard and was compounded by the afore-mentioned limit on
in-season development ('though it was mitigated somewhat by the stiffer side-wall tyres bought in
part-way through the season).
Overall though it was still a net gain to RBR (and McLaren, Ferrari et al) which I think was the
reason for it, give the punters a better show by nobbling the dominant team who (along with
Aston) were running a different car setup to the others.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.
... as well as that driver having a car and engine package that is now closer to the Merc,
allowing him to do so.
I'm looking forward to next year in the hope that, with the new regulations, the current duopoly
more challenged and we will see more teams actively vie for the top spots.
On 1/10/2021 10:34 am, Sir Tim wrote:Almost by definition cars that are behind on performance have more tangible opportunities to
Dan the Man <dan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and >>>> Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely Mercedes decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of nextYep. Not only that but teams were (again) limited by the FIA on how much in-season development they
year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car.
actually could do this year. RBR benefited from the mandated late change to the rear floor which
really hit Mercedes low-rake car hard and was compounded by the afore-mentioned limit on in-season
development ('though it was mitigated somewhat by the stiffer side-wall tyres bought in part-way
through the season).
Overall though it was still a net gain to RBR (and McLaren, Ferrari et al) which I think was the
reason for it, give the punters a better show by nobbling the dominant team who (along with Aston)
were running a different car setup to the others.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.... as well as that driver having a car and engine package that is now closer to the Merc, allowing
him to do so.
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On 1/10/2021 4:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 1/10/2021 9:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 1/10/2021 10:34 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:Yep. Not only that but teams were (again) limited by the FIA on how
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if >>>>> his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and >>>>>>> Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the >>>>>>> rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis >>>>>>> Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't
go on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely
Mercedes
decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of >>>> next
year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car. >>>
much in-season development they actually could do this year. RBR
benefited from the mandated late change to the rear floor which
really hit Mercedes low-rake car hard and was compounded by the
afore-mentioned limit on in-season development ('though it was
mitigated somewhat by the stiffer side-wall tyres bought in part-way
through the season).
Overall though it was still a net gain to RBR (and McLaren, Ferrari
et al) which I think was the reason for it, give the punters a better
show by nobbling the dominant team who (along with Aston) were
running a different car setup to the others.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.
... as well as that driver having a car and engine package that is
now closer to the Merc, allowing him to do so.
I'm looking forward to next year in the hope that, with the new
regulations, the current duopoly more challenged and we will see more
teams actively vie for the top spots.
Same. Although if it does become more of a driver-centric series we'll
have a similar few running at the front (including Russell) IMO.
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen
and Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at
the rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis
Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
On 1/10/2021 9:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 1/10/2021 10:34 am, Sir Tim wrote:
Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, News wrote:
When does Toto's 'performance' go from rhetorical to actionable?Ever since Niki Lauda passed away, I've been quietly wondering when/if >>>> his absence might begin to tell on the Merc's performance.
Wolff said the team must go on the attack against Max Verstappen and >>>>>> Red Bull, who finished an improbable second after starting at the
rear of the grid
Toto Wolff promises ‘really aggressive’ approach to aid Lewis
Hamilton title bid
Mercedes chief says team must take the fight to Max Verstappen
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/27/toto-wolff-promises-really-aggressive-approach-to-aid-lewis-hamilton-title-bid
Maybe we're seeing it now? Or maybe Merc's dominance just couldn't go
on forever...
I doubt it has anything to do with Lauda’s absence. More likely Mercedes >>> decided to suspend major development of this year’s car in favour of next >>> year’s whereas Red Bull and Honda have worked hard on the current car.
Yep. Not only that but teams were (again) limited by the FIA on how much
in-season development they actually could do this year. RBR benefited
from the mandated late change to the rear floor which really hit
Mercedes low-rake car hard and was compounded by the afore-mentioned
limit on in-season development ('though it was mitigated somewhat by the
stiffer side-wall tyres bought in part-way through the season).
Overall though it was still a net gain to RBR (and McLaren, Ferrari et
al) which I think was the reason for it, give the punters a better show
by nobbling the dominant team who (along with Aston) were running a
different car setup to the others.
Having a driver who can genuinely challenge Lewis Hamilton also helps.
... as well as that driver having a car and engine package that is now
closer to the Merc, allowing him to do so.
I'm looking forward to next year in the hope that, with the new
regulations, the current duopoly more challenged and we will see more
teams actively vie for the top spots.
On 1/10/2021 1:31 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:<snipped>
On 1/10/2021 4:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
I'm looking forward to next year in the hope that, with the new regulations, the current duopolySame. Although if it does become more of a driver-centric series we'll have a similar few running
more challenged and we will see more teams actively vie for the top spots. >>
at the front (including Russell) IMO.
I hope that it does become driver centric, but even top drivers can have a hard time when adjusting
to unfamiliar machinery viz Vettel and Ricciardo. There may be a few surprises (hopefully).
On 1/10/2021 10:28 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 1/10/2021 1:31 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:<snipped>
On 1/10/2021 4:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
I'm looking forward to next year in the hope that, with the new regulations, the current duopoly
more challenged and we will see more teams actively vie for the top spots.
Same. Although if it does become more of a driver-centric series we'll have a similar few running
at the front (including Russell) IMO.
I hope that it does become driver centric, but even top drivers can have a hard time when adjustingSomething to think about; The two 'top drivers' you mention both were only really top drivers when
to unfamiliar machinery viz Vettel and Ricciardo. There may be a few surprises (hopefully).
they were at RBR and have shuffled around teams since then. Also only certain drivers CAN do well
at RBR as evidenced by them not being able to find a running-mate for Max.
There's something fundamentally different about how that RBR car drives that only certain drivers
can come to grips with and it seems that, once they've got used to it over several seasons they
don't do near as well in other cars. Almost like it's a poisoned chalice for a young driver (or has
its own intrinsic non-compete clause).
Some that haven't done well in it go on to do well in other cars (Gasly) and some that did well in
other cars just can't seem to get the best out of it (Perez).
<shrug> Just thinking out loud really but it seems to hold true.
<shrug>
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