In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years --- I was getting frustrated.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
--- I have not watch any of this
season's races.
---
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
On 4/10/2022 1:09 PM, AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news andUnderstandable. The last two years seemed 'intense'
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years --- I was getting frustrated.
rather than enjoyable.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
That is to some extent a financial fact of life.
I particularly did not like the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix.
Constant turning between jersey barriers at night
is not something I would want to do, nor enjoy watching.
--- I have not watch any of this
season's races.
---
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
In my opinion, if you can try to just enjoy the competition,
without a strong feeling as to what should happen,
today's race (and the prior two) should be enjoyable.
This year passing is possible.
This year most drivers have been careful to
not collide or horribly block.
Emotions seem in safe check.
Agree about the flat, barrier-bound, boring track/s.
On 10/04/2022, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
As a fan of F1 and in particular of Mercedes and Hamilton I empathise
with you. There have been many atypical mistakes lately, especially
during the 2021 season, culminating with the title decider. 2021 was my
29th full F1 season and for the first time I pondered stop watching...
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
This is sadly true as well. Covid somehow created the false hope of
seeing different tracks back on the calendar. The reality is that we're
now getting back to where the higher money bids are, with more Middle
Eastern tracks than ever and with some countries hosting multiple races, >whereas other countries with better tracks are left out.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
I'm turning 41
soon and despite my first paragraph above, 2022 is
proudly my 30th full F1 season. There's something stronger that still
hooks me, despite the recent disappointments. F1 feels more like >entertainment than a true sport nowadays,
but what I've always enjoyed
the most was the technical innovation of the cars anyway. I love F1
above any team, driver or race director, hence I'm still around.
As for today's race, it wasn't super interesting, but I can't stress
enough how much I urge you to watch Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. The
opening two rounds were some of the best races I can remember in recent
F1 history, with multiple direct fights for the win from start to
finish. Perhaps the drivers or teams involved aren't of your liking, but
the spectacle was of high quality and surprisingly fair, given one of
the drivers.
A German friend stopped watching F1 after Abu Dhabi for the same reason
you did. I understand him,
but just like I've subtly tried to bring him
back, because he's missing quite some good races, I can't help but do
the same here.
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
I was lucky enough to be at Goodwood Members Meeting yesterday. Even
though I was looking forward to hearing the V10's start up I was
surprised by the huge hit of nostalgia. Nostalgia for when I was in
love with F1, when I watched every available moment. F1 has slowly
eroded my love of the sport and I'm not sure they will ever quite win
me back but I still enjoy watching the races. I don't feel the need to
watch every lap anymore or care as much about what I am watching. It's
like your favourite TV being written for a different audience in it's
latest seasons.
On 4/10/2022 4:09 PM, AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
El Supremo's 'spectacle' is long gone, thanks in part to buddy Tilke.
On 10/04/2022, AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
As a fan of F1 and in particular of Mercedes and Hamilton I empathise
with you. There have been many atypical mistakes lately, especially
during the 2021 season, culminating with the title decider. 2021 was my
29th full F1 season and for the first time I pondered stop watching...
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
This is sadly true as well. Covid somehow created the false hope of
seeing different tracks back on the calendar. The reality is that we're
now getting back to where the higher money bids are, with more Middle
Eastern tracks than ever and with some countries hosting multiple races, whereas other countries with better tracks are left out.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
I'm turning 41 soon and despite my first paragraph above, 2022 is
proudly my 30th full F1 season. There's something stronger that still
hooks me, despite the recent disappointments. F1 feels more like entertainment than a true sport nowadays, but what I've always enjoyed
the most was the technical innovation of the cars anyway. I love F1
above any team, driver or race director, hence I'm still around.
As for today's race, it wasn't super interesting, but I can't stress
enough how much I urge you to watch Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. The
opening two rounds were some of the best races I can remember in recent
F1 history, with multiple direct fights for the win from start to
finish. Perhaps the drivers or teams involved aren't of your liking, but
the spectacle was of high quality and surprisingly fair, given one of
the drivers.
A German friend stopped watching F1 after Abu Dhabi for the same reason
you did. I understand him, but just like I've subtly tried to bring him
back, because he's missing quite some good races, I can't help but do
the same here.
On 4/11/2022 2:44 PM, Bigbird wrote:
AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
I was lucky enough to be at Goodwood Members Meeting yesterday. Even
though I was looking forward to hearing the V10's start up I was
surprised by the huge hit of nostalgia. Nostalgia for when I was in
love with F1, when I watched every available moment. F1 has slowly
eroded my love of the sport and I'm not sure they will ever quite win
me back but I still enjoy watching the races. I don't feel the need to
watch every lap anymore or care as much about what I am watching. It's
like your favourite TV being written for a different audience in it's
latest seasons.
Likewise, the ubiquitous DFV, the Ferrari Flat12, the BRM V12, the Matra
V12, the Tecno Flat12, and similarly rare Alfa V8. Masters only, now.
Why would you be a fan "in particular" of Mercedes or Hamilton?
Alan wrote:
On 2022-04-11 12:32 p.m., News wrote:
On 4/11/2022 2:44 PM, Bigbird wrote:
AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the
news and this forum until I've watched the highlights of
qualifying and the race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions
regarding safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances
that I now can't off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I
still have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch
any of this season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the
boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle
Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised
that HAM didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the
final positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or
should I get an extra round of golf in?
I was lucky enough to be at Goodwood Members Meeting yesterday.
Even though I was looking forward to hearing the V10's start up I
was surprised by the huge hit of nostalgia. Nostalgia for when I
was in love with F1, when I watched every available moment. F1
has slowly eroded my love of the sport and I'm not sure they will
ever quite win me back but I still enjoy watching the races. I
don't feel the need to watch every lap anymore or care as much
about what I am watching. It's like your favourite TV being
written for a different audience in it's latest seasons.
Likewise, the ubiquitous DFV, the Ferrari Flat12, the BRM V12, the
Matra V12, the Tecno Flat12, and similarly rare Alfa V8. Masters
only, now.
Yes.
The world changes.
This is not news.
Do you long for the days of the Auto Union V16 of the 1930s?
How about the days when F1 was killing multiple drivers every year?
Would that satisfy?
There is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Aerodynamics and
computers are here, and we have to work within the world that exists.
Not some fantasy world of how much more perfect it was in our youth.
Another example of how easily you miss the point in your rush to be a contrary little twit.
On 2022-04-11 12:32 p.m., News wrote:
On 4/11/2022 2:44 PM, Bigbird wrote:
AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the
news and this forum until I've watched the highlights of
qualifying and the race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions
regarding safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances
that I now can't off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I
still have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch
any of this season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the
boringly landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle
Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised
that HAM didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the
final positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or
should I get an extra round of golf in?
I was lucky enough to be at Goodwood Members Meeting yesterday.
Even though I was looking forward to hearing the V10's start up I
was surprised by the huge hit of nostalgia. Nostalgia for when I
was in love with F1, when I watched every available moment. F1
has slowly eroded my love of the sport and I'm not sure they will
ever quite win me back but I still enjoy watching the races. I
don't feel the need to watch every lap anymore or care as much
about what I am watching. It's like your favourite TV being
written for a different audience in it's latest seasons.
Likewise, the ubiquitous DFV, the Ferrari Flat12, the BRM V12, the
Matra V12, the Tecno Flat12, and similarly rare Alfa V8. Masters
only, now.
Yes.
The world changes.
This is not news.
Do you long for the days of the Auto Union V16 of the 1930s?
How about the days when F1 was killing multiple drivers every year?
Would that satisfy?
There is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Aerodynamics and
computers are here, and we have to work within the world that exists.
Not some fantasy world of how much more perfect it was in our youth.
What do you feel the point was?
On 2022-04-11 6:18 a.m., News wrote:
On 4/10/2022 4:09 PM, AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks.
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
El Supremo's 'spectacle' is long gone, thanks in part to buddy Tilke.
Why is it you people can't figure out that people such as Tilke and Masi
DO NOT make the final decisions.
Their job is to distract you from those who DO make those decisions.
On 12/04/2022 1:46 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2022-04-11 6:18 a.m., News wrote:
On 4/10/2022 4:09 PM, AnthonyL wrote:
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In recent years with some seemingly manipulated decisions regarding
safety cars/virtual safety cars and other instances that I now can't
off-hand recall I was getting frustrated.
The Michael Masi incident seems to have been a final straw. I still
have not watch the end of that race and I have not watch any of this
season's races.
Money has taken over interesting tracks and especially the boringly
landscaped (or not as the case might be) of the Middle Eastern tracks. >>>>
No doubt I'm merely showing my age and I was a bit surprised that HAM
didn't call it a day.
Anyway, I'm still here, just, and still haven't looked at the final
positions of today's race. Is it worth watching or should I get an
extra round of golf in?
El Supremo's 'spectacle' is long gone, thanks in part to buddy Tilke.
Why is it you people can't figure out that people such as Tilke and
Masi DO NOT make the final decisions.
Their job is to distract you from those who DO make those decisions.
Yeah it's a CONSPIRACY !
In a sense, yes, it is.
On 4/10/2022 1:09 PM, AnthonyL wrote:...
For at least the past 20 years I have studiously avoided the news and
this forum until I've watched the highlights of qualifying and the
race itself.
In my opinion, if you can try to just enjoy the competition,
without a strong feeling as to what should happen,
today's race (and the prior two) should be enjoyable.
This year passing is possible.
This year most drivers have been careful to
not collide or horribly block.
Emotions seem in safe check.
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