Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 3/14/2022 11:00 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

Someone, call the decal shop.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-4, News wrote:

On 3/14/2022 11:00 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

Someone, call the decal shop.

Good thing he's not a soccer player...

Dan

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his
name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same
format.

The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.

De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.

geoff

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

or if he were Nordic, he would be Lewis Hamilton Anthonysson, or
sumppfink like dat.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 20:12:25 UTC, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included - https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family name
from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters have taken their husband's names.

No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a marriage then
having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their heritage pretty quickly.

Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though :-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his
name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same format.

The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.

De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.

geoff

Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.

Dan

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:

I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
have taken their husband's names.

No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
heritage pretty quickly.

Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
:-)

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
really didn't give a toss.

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
A vital part of my job is to render
soporific subjects into gripping prose.
- Idrees Kahloon

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 16/03/2022 2:11 am, Dan the Man wrote:

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 9:12 am, geoff wrote:

On 15/03/2022 4:00 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

Lewis Hamilton has announced that he is in the process of changing his >>>> name so that his mother’s surname Larbalestier is included -
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/lewis-hamilton-changing-name-mothers-135110853.html

If all stick to that principle it could get rather messy a few
generations on ...

The Spanish (and colonies) do something along those lines (maybe an
affectation of some), but the mothers' names get forgotten next gen.

geoff

Though now having read the article, maybe, or maybe not quite the same
format.

The Spanish one is the likes of 'Carlos Montoya De La Vaca'.

De La Vaca being 'of the Cow'. 'Of' being used as in 'from'.

geoff

Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.

Dan

Yep, that's how it works. The 'de la' bit is a toff affectation if used.

geoff

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:

I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
have taken their husband's names.

No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But
double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
heritage pretty quickly.

Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
:-)

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I really didn't give a toss.

Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s. Would that work?

--
Sir Tim

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 3/15/2022 3:33 PM, Sir Tim wrote:

Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
really didn't give a toss.

Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s. Would that work?

We actually had decided beforehand that if we had a boy he would have my
last name and hers as a middle name, and the reverse if a girl. We
actually named our first that way but for a number of reasons* decided
to hyphenate instead - which cost us $300 in legal fees.

*When we made the initial decision we were planning on having only one
child. This plan changed over time and by the time we had one we had
decided to have a second (in the end we have three, all boys), and the
prospect of siblings with, potentially, different last names became a
factor in changing our naming plan.

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
A vital part of my job is to render
soporific subjects into gripping prose.
- Idrees Kahloon

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:28:51 -0400, Mark Jackson
<mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

On 3/15/2022 3:33 PM, Sir Tim wrote:

Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three >>> sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I >>> really didn't give a toss.

Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male
children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s.
Would that work?

We actually had decided beforehand that if we had a boy he would have my
last name and hers as a middle name, and the reverse if a girl. We
actually named our first that way but for a number of reasons* decided
to hyphenate instead - which cost us $300 in legal fees.

*When we made the initial decision we were planning on having only one
child. This plan changed over time and by the time we had one we had
decided to have a second (in the end we have three, all boys), and the >prospect of siblings with, potentially, different last names became a
factor in changing our naming plan.

That reminds me of the old joke about the single mother with 5 kids,
Social Welfare came out to interview her to see what allowances she
was entitled. The interviewer asked her, what was the name of her
first child and she replied "David". He asked her the name of the
second child and she replied "David" and so on through all 5 children

"Is that not confusing with them all being called David?" he asked.

"Not at all she replied", "it's actually very handy. If they are out
playing and I want them to come in for dinner, I just shout 'David,
dinner is ready!' and they all come."

"But what about when you only want one of them?" he asked.

"That's easy", she replied "I just use their surname!"

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 15/03/2022 13:11, Dan the Man wrote:

Makes me think of retired women's tennis star Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. "Vicario" was her mother's maiden name.

That's always been the custom in Spain. Fernando Alonso's full name is
Fernando Alonso Díaz, and Carlos Sainz is really Carlos Sainz Vázquez de Castro.

(Legally it used to have to be FirstName FatherSurname MotherSurname,
although nowadays the parents can choose the order of the surnames.)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs>

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

or if he were Nordic, he would be Lewis Hamilton Anthonysson, or
sumppfink like dat.

If he was Icelandic (I don't think the other Scandinavians have the system these days) he would be Lewis Anthonysson - the surname (Hamilton) would've been dropped.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 16/03/2022 5:33 am, Sir Tim wrote:

Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

On 3/15/2022 8:48 AM, Matt Larkin wrote:

I've got a lot of sympathy with my wife (one of 3 girls) who's family
name from her father will disappear as her and all of her sisters
have taken their husband's names.

No perfect way to do it - if there's going to be kids as part of a
marriage then having a "family unit" name makes a lot of sense. But
double-barrelled names get lengthy and hybrid names lose their
heritage pretty quickly.

Just another part of the patriarchy which needs dismantling though
:-)

When we got married 47 years ago Ellen kept her last name. We have three
sons, all hyphenated, and our grandkids have their mother's last name
because it was important to her dad (three daughters), and our son and I
really didn't give a toss.

Suppose both parties kept their original surname after marriage; any male children took their father’s surname and daughters took their mother’s. Would that work?

A couple we knew had two sons, one used his fathers name, the other his mothers. I don't know whether the boys decided this or it was decided
for them.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)