On 2022-02-25 3:20 p.m., bra wrote:

The brief video clips suggest it would be intolerable for more than a few laps. Ugg.

I can't imagine that any of the teams won't have it sorted out before
the first race.

If I had to speculate, I'd say they're probably seeing what the most
extreme... ...something... ...is that they can get away with before
porpoising becomes an issue.

It might be rear ride height... ...it might be spring rates.

One of the factors that's definitely a big change for these cars is that
the tires will be doing a lot less of the springing in the overall
system, so the main springs will probably be softer in order to
compensate. Softer springs will me more vertical movement from downforce
and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to porpoising.

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The brief video clips suggest it would be intolerable for more than a few laps. Ugg.

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Alan wrote:

Softer springs will me more vertical movement from
downforce and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to
porpoising.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

HTH

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On 2022-02-26 1:59 a.m., Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

Softer springs will me more vertical movement from
downforce and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to
porpoising.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

HTH

But telling me things I already know?

By snipping most of what I wrote?


Too much downward movement with increasing downforce DOES lead to the
floor getting to close to the ground...

...causing it to stall and downforce to suddenly decrease...

...causing the car to rise again...

...causing the cycle to repeat.

From your source:

" and accurately modelling the dynamics of the springs and dampers in
this situation is not really possible."

And what you snipped (of course):

"One of the factors that's definitely a big change for these cars is
that the tires will be doing a lot less of the springing in the overall
system, so the main springs will probably be softer in order to compensate."

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On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:06:47 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

And what you snipped (of course):

you simple fuck

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Alan wrote:

On 2022-02-26 1:59 a.m., Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

Softer springs will me more vertical movement from
downforce and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to porpoising.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

HTH

But telling me things I already know?

Stop "whining like a little girl". Clearly it states things differently
and somewhat better than you and is not just posted for your benefit.

Again you claim to know thing you clearly didn't.

By snipping most of what I wrote?

Quoting you serves no purpose.


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On 2022-02-27 4:42 a.m., Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

On 2022-02-26 1:59 a.m., Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

Softer springs will me more vertical movement from
downforce and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to
porpoising.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

HTH

But telling me things I already know?

Stop "whining like a little girl". Clearly it states things differently
and somewhat better than you and is not just posted for your benefit.

Again you claim to know thing you clearly didn't.

What would that be?

By snipping most of what I wrote?

Quoting you serves no purpose.

Yet you are very... ...selective about what you choose to remove.

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On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 9:56:11 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

Yet you are very... ...selective about what you choose to remove.

oh poor, sad, pathetic, you

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Alan wrote:

Yet

?

you are very... ...selective about what you choose to remove.

..to quote.

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On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 4:42:32 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

On 2022-02-26 1:59 a.m., Bigbird wrote:

Alan wrote:

Softer springs will me more vertical movement from
downforce and on a ground effect car, too much movement leads to porpoising.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.analysis-what-is-porpoising-and-why-is-it-causing-the-f1-teams-a-headache-at.6O93LlvFMyY81L9LfSutcS.html

HTH

But telling me things I already know?

Stop "whining like a little girl". Clearly it states things differently
and somewhat better than you and is not just posted for your benefit.

Again you claim to know thing you clearly didn't.

By snipping most of what I wrote?

Quoting you serves no purpose.
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Thank you for posting the article link.

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