According to racingnews365.com
I can't find the data on their website, but also reported by the Daily >Express:
<https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1491106/f1-driver-salary-lewis-hamilton-full-list-evg>
HAM $30m
VER $25m
ALO $20m
VET $15m
RIC $15m
LEC $12m
BOT $10m
SAI $10m
STR $10m
RAI $10m
PER $8m
NOR $5m
OCO $5m
GAS $5m
GIO, MSC, MAZ, LAT, RUS $1m
TSU $500k
This is the direct cash payment from the teams to the drivers, correct?
Are there any pay-to-drive guys left? If so, there must be some math around we pay you this but you bring that from sponsors.
What about sponsorships? Does the salary number include pass-through on team sponsorships? Or is all the sponsorship stuff segregated? By that I mean do the teams get the money from everything visible on a race weekend and the drivers have their owndeals that are away from the track and car?
On 24/09/2021 1:02 am, D Munz wrote:deals that are away from the track and car?
This is the direct cash payment from the teams to the drivers, correct?I'll take a stab at this. I think the numbers quoted in the first post in this thread are what the
teams pay the drivers.
Are there any pay-to-drive guys left? If so, there must be some math around we pay you this but you bring that from sponsors.Yes there are a few. Schumacher, Mazespin, Perez, Russell - though Russell's 'money' (or PU
discounts) that he bought came from Mercedes.
Usually the teams pay them a slice of what they bring in. I've heard mentioned that Perez brings
around $10 million to any team so that means he's still paying $2M for his seat at RBR if the
numbers are accurate.
What about sponsorships? Does the salary number include pass-through on team sponsorships? Or is all the sponsorship stuff segregated? By that I mean do the teams get the money from everything visible on a race weekend and the drivers have their own
All sponsorship money from placement on the cars goes to the teams. There are a very few exceptions
such as Alonso's salary deal includes rear wing placement of his Kimoa (sp?) brand (or did, I
haven't noticed in the last couple races). Also some teams will endorse causes that their drivers
are passionate about but I think these deals are largely gratis - a non-monetary consideration.
(Think the black 'silver' arrows...)
Some drivers will have off-track (or at least out-of-car) deals with sponsors that are direct to
them. I think those numbers are likely included in the second post's figures for Hamilton and
Verstappen. I think Dan Riccirado's pink 9FORTY gear that debuted at Zandvoort is either a shared
deal between Dan and the team or a deal similar to Nando's Kimoa deal. <https://preview.redd.it/vrtazfpbt2l71.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128e6b0d0660bfcbb343d0e1474cd078b35d9722>
The above is all to the best of my knowledge and as far as I know etc.
--
Shaun.
On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 5:20:43 AM UTC-5, ~misfit~ wrote:own deals that are away from the track and car?
On 24/09/2021 1:02 am, D Munz wrote:
This is the direct cash payment from the teams to the drivers, correct?I'll take a stab at this. I think the numbers quoted in the first post in this thread are what the
teams pay the drivers.
Are there any pay-to-drive guys left? If so, there must be some math around we pay you this but you bring that from sponsors.Yes there are a few. Schumacher, Mazespin, Perez, Russell - though Russell's 'money' (or PU
discounts) that he bought came from Mercedes.
Usually the teams pay them a slice of what they bring in. I've heard mentioned that Perez brings
around $10 million to any team so that means he's still paying $2M for his seat at RBR if the
numbers are accurate.
What about sponsorships? Does the salary number include pass-through on team sponsorships? Or is all the sponsorship stuff segregated? By that I mean do the teams get the money from everything visible on a race weekend and the drivers have their
All sponsorship money from placement on the cars goes to the teams. There are a very few exceptions
such as Alonso's salary deal includes rear wing placement of his Kimoa (sp?) brand (or did, I
haven't noticed in the last couple races). Also some teams will endorse causes that their drivers
are passionate about but I think these deals are largely gratis - a non-monetary consideration.
(Think the black 'silver' arrows...)
Some drivers will have off-track (or at least out-of-car) deals with sponsors that are direct to
them. I think those numbers are likely included in the second post's figures for Hamilton and
Verstappen. I think Dan Riccirado's pink 9FORTY gear that debuted at Zandvoort is either a shared
deal between Dan and the team or a deal similar to Nando's Kimoa deal. <https://preview.redd.it/vrtazfpbt2l71.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128e6b0d0660bfcbb343d0e1474cd078b35d9722>
The above is all to the best of my knowledge and as far as I know etc.Thank you. That's a good summary and about what I expected but it is nice to see from another point of view.
--
Shaun.
FWIW
DLM
Kind of makes a sham of the cost caps.
Kind of makes a sham of the cost caps.
Can you see that happening?
On 25/09/2021 5:58 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
Kind of makes a sham of the cost caps.
The salaries of the drivers and (I think) two other highest paid team members aren't included in
the cost cap. The main reason the drivers aren't included is because pay drivers.
The teams have the power to reduce drivers salaries by agreeing with each other not to pay over a
certain amount. Can you see that happening?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:11:03 +1200, ~misfit~
<shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25/09/2021 5:58 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
Kind of makes a sham of the cost caps.
The salaries of the drivers and (I think) two other highest paid team members aren't included in
the cost cap. The main reason the drivers aren't included is because pay drivers.
The teams have the power to reduce drivers salaries by agreeing with each other not to pay over a
certain amount. Can you see that happening?
Driver salary costs also cannot be viewed in their absolute numbers
alone. You have to look at the other side of the balance sheet - how
much additional income does a team get from winning a WMC against
coming second, third or even lower? How much additional sponsorship
money does Hamilton generate (for the car, not the driver) compared to
a less successful driver? How much value does he add to their
marketing?
I'm pretty sure that Mercedes have some sharp financial experts who scrutinise these things and if Hamilton was costing more than theExactly.
income he generates, they would not be so keen to hold onto him,
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 296 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 59:11:27 |
| Calls: | 6,653 |
| Calls today: | 5 |
| Files: | 12,200 |
| Messages: | 5,331,279 |
