Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
On 2021-12-18 5:17 a.m., build wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
Indeed.
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
Or to put it in fuller context:
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules. Live sport has a habit of creating such insane situations and referees have to deal with
them. Masi did nothing wrong. He used the powers he has to do what he
felt was best was the World Championship. What happened was no-one’s
fault. Max was lucky. Lewis was not. I never want to hear Max complain
again that the FIA has got it in for him, and I want Christian Horner to learn a lot about stewarding when he attends the FIA Stewards event
later this winter. Lewis took his defeat with grace and style. Toto and
his cohorts reacted as one would expect them to react, but is appealing
the various decisions going to help F1? No, probably not. It was the
sporting gods having their say. Losing with grace is better than losing
with lawyers. But I feel their pain. It wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right, but it was the way the rules are."
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
On 12/18/2021 9:47 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 5:17 a.m., build wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
Indeed.
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
Or to put it in fuller context:
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules. Live sport has a
habit of creating such insane situations and referees have to deal
with them. Masi did nothing wrong. He used the powers he has to do
what he felt was best was the World Championship. What happened was
no-one’s fault. Max was lucky. Lewis was not. I never want to hear Max
complain again that the FIA has got it in for him, and I want
Christian Horner to learn a lot about stewarding when he attends the
FIA Stewards event later this winter. Lewis took his defeat with grace
and style. Toto and his cohorts reacted as one would expect them to
react, but is appealing the various decisions going to help F1? No,
probably not. It was the sporting gods having their say. Losing with
grace is better than losing with lawyers. But I feel their pain. It
wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right, but it was the way the rules are."
No, the rule changed with one lap to go. EOS
On 2021-12-18 11:14 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
On 12/18/2021 9:47 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 5:17 a.m., build wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi
race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a -quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
Indeed.
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
Or to put it in fuller context:
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules. Live sport
has a habit of creating such insane situations and referees have
to deal with them. Masi did nothing wrong. He used the powers he
has to do what he felt was best was the World Championship. What happened was no-one’s fault. Max was lucky. Lewis was not. I
never want to hear Max complain again that the FIA has got it in
for him, and I want Christian Horner to learn a lot about
stewarding when he attends the FIA Stewards event later this
winter. Lewis took his defeat with grace and style. Toto and his
cohorts reacted as one would expect them to react, but is
appealing the various decisions going to help F1? No, probably
not. It was the sporting gods having their say. Losing with
grace is better than losing with lawyers. But I feel their pain.
It wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right, but it was the way the rules are."
No, the rule changed with one lap to go. EOS
Who to believe:
The F1 journalist who's been covering the sport since 1988...
...or you?
Who to believe:
The F1 journalist who's been covering the sport since 1988...
...or you?
:-)
build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
“It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules”
No it wasn’t. The rules are quite clear and Masi chose to disregard them. In many ways the rules protect the Race Director, all he has to do is to follow them and he cannot be blamed for the outcome. As it was Masi chose
to change them and thus brought down massive opprobrium on
On 2021-12-18 1:20 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:
build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:The FIA disagrees with you as Mercedes protests were dismissed.
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.“It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules”
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a- quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
No it wasn’t. The rules are quite clear and Masi chose to disregard
them.
In many ways the rules protect the Race Director, all he has to do is
to follow them and he cannot be blamed for the outcome. As it was Masi
chose to change them and thus brought down massive opprobrium on
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
The FIA disagrees with you as Mercedes protests were dismissed.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:22:30 -0500, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 1:20 p.m., Sir Tim wrote:quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-
The FIA disagrees with you as Mercedes protests were dismissed.“It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules”
build
No it wasn’t. The rules are quite clear and Masi chose to disregard
them.
In many ways the rules protect the Race Director, all he has to do is
to follow them and he cannot be blamed for the outcome. As it was Masi
chose to change them and thus brought down massive opprobrium on
only with a dubious interpretation of 48.13
"When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's orange
lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the Competitors
and drivers that it will be
entering the pit lane at the end of that lap."
& suggesting that this superceeds 48.12's "Following lap" stipulation.
to anyone with half a brain it is ovbvious that this has been miss-used as
a means to cover up the mistake Masi made whilst trying to get a racing finish.
On 2021-12-18 11:14 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
On 12/18/2021 9:47 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 5:17 a.m., build wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race.
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
Indeed.
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
Or to put it in fuller context:
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules. Live sport has
a habit of creating such insane situations and referees have to deal
with them. Masi did nothing wrong. He used the powers he has to do
what he felt was best was the World Championship. What happened was
no-one’s fault. Max was lucky. Lewis was not. I never want to hear
Max complain again that the FIA has got it in for him, and I want
Christian Horner to learn a lot about stewarding when he attends the
FIA Stewards event later this winter. Lewis took his defeat with
grace and style. Toto and his cohorts reacted as one would expect
them to react, but is appealing the various decisions going to help
F1? No, probably not. It was the sporting gods having their say.
Losing with grace is better than losing with lawyers. But I feel
their pain. It wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right, but it was the way
the rules are."
No, the rule changed with one lap to go. EOS
Who to believe:
The F1 journalist who's been covering the sport since 1988...
...or you?
:-)
On 19/12/2021 6:00 am, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 11:14 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
On 12/18/2021 9:47 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-18 5:17 a.m., build wrote:
Joe as usual does an excellent job of summarising the Abu Dhabi race. >>>>
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2021/12/14/green-notebook-from-a-quiet-forest-in-normandy/
build
Indeed.
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules."
Or to put it in fuller context:
"It wasn’t fair perhaps, but it was within the rules. Live sport has >>> a habit of creating such insane situations and referees have to deal
with them. Masi did nothing wrong. He used the powers he has to do
what he felt was best was the World Championship. What happened was
no-one’s fault. Max was lucky. Lewis was not. I never want to hear
Max complain again that the FIA has got it in for him, and I want
Christian Horner to learn a lot about stewarding when he attends the
FIA Stewards event later this winter. Lewis took his defeat with
grace and style. Toto and his cohorts reacted as one would expect
them to react, but is appealing the various decisions going to help
F1? No, probably not. It was the sporting gods having their say.
Losing with grace is better than losing with lawyers. But I feel
their pain. It wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right, but it was the way >>> the rules are."
No, the rule changed with one lap to go. EOS
Who to believe:
The F1 journalist who's been covering the sport since 1988...
...or you?
:-)You are quite happy to disbelieve other similarly-experienced journos
who don't happen to push the same barrow as you ....
geoff
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