...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last few days.
You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many times over already you
can stop now, TOTY.
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the situation
until /after/ he was overtaken?
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete fuckwit.
On 2021-12-14 12:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last few
days. You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many times over
already you can stop now, TOTY.
Sorry, but I'm reporting the facts.
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not getting new tires?
Lewis Hamilton.
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Lewis Hamilton.
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the situation
until /after/ he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by Verstappen, but he
was probably pretty focused until his last overtaking opportunity went
away, wouldn't you agree?
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars would unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game was played
and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in part because he
thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation was
actually happening?
Can you answer that?
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not getting new tires?
Lewis Hamilton.
HAM probably felt in his gut that he was a sitting duck once VER got the new softs while he was sitting on old hards.
Dan
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 12:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last few
days. You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many times over
already you can stop now, TOTY.
Sorry, but I'm reporting the facts.
No, TOTY, you are just shit stirring making all sorts of unwarranted
and inane inferences.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making calls on his radio
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Lewis Hamilton.
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the situation
until /after/ he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by Verstappen, but he
was probably pretty focused until his last overtaking opportunity went
away, wouldn't you agree?
I am glad to see you are beining to comprehend things
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars would unlap
themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game was played
and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in part because he
thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation was
actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
On 16/12/2021 3:04 am, Dan the Man wrote:
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not
Lewis Hamilton.
getting new tires?
HAM probably felt in his gut that he was a sitting duck once VER got
the new softs while he was sitting on old hards.
Dan
Though he would have been OK from where he was with the 12 sec lead.
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not getting new tires?
Lewis Hamilton.
HAM probably felt in his gut that he was a sitting duck once VER got the new softs while he was sitting on old hards.
On 2021-12-15 3:26 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 16/12/2021 3:04 am, Dan the Man wrote:
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not
Lewis Hamilton.
getting new tires?
HAM probably felt in his gut that he was a sitting duck once VER got
the new softs while he was sitting on old hards.
Dan
Though he would have been OK from where he was with the 12 sec lead.
But while still behind the pace car, he knew that he wouldn't HAVE a 12 second lead.
sunshine.
On 2021-12-15 9:55 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the
situation until after he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by Verstappen,
but he was probably pretty focused until his last overtaking
opportunity went away, wouldn't you agree?
Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making calls on
his radio I am glad to see you are beining to comprehend things
But that's my point.
When the situation change, he was still behind the pace car in a
situation that didn't yet require high levels of focus.
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete
fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other
things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars would
unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game was
played and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in part
because he thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all
along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation was actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
And before the pace car pulled away...
...when he was informed that the lapped traffic would be let by, and
he saw it happening—all while behind the pace car...
...where was the need for his focus at that point?
On 2021-12-15 5:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 12:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last few
days. You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many times
over already you can stop now, TOTY.
Sorry, but I'm reporting the facts.
No, TOTY, you are just shit stirring making all sorts of unwarranted
and inane inferences.
I've made no inferences at all, sunshine.
I've noted what actually happened.
Hamilton was chatty and complaining about everything except what you
say was such a terribly unfair thing.
He only complained that it was unfair after he failed to prevent
Verstappen from passing him and failed to retake the lead in the only
places on the last lap where it was possible.
Those are just facts.
On 16/12/2021 1:12 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 3:26 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 16/12/2021 3:04 am, Dan the Man wrote:
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about not
Lewis Hamilton.
getting new tires?
HAM probably felt in his gut that he was a sitting duck once VER got
the new softs while he was sitting on old hards.
Dan
Though he would have been OK from where he was with the 12 sec lead.
But while still behind the pace car, he knew that he wouldn't HAVE a
12 second lead.
Yes, but expected to have a whatever-second lead with the lapped cars in between, which would have been tenable for him - and *was* the call,
prior to the RD's subsequent change of heart.
Or would have expected to have the lapped cars let through and the SC to
pull in after the next lap as per the regs, or finish under the SC.
Come on.
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 5:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 12:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last few
days. You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many times
over already you can stop now, TOTY.
Sorry, but I'm reporting the facts.
No, TOTY, you are just shit stirring making all sorts of unwarranted
and inane inferences.
I've made no inferences at all, sunshine.
Liar. If you had not come to some inane conclusion you would not be
making such a ridiculous post.
You have made inferences about why he wasn't more vocal... if he
wasn't; that has not been established.
Neither have you established that he knew the regs were being ignored
in those few seconds between the lapped cars passing and the SC lights
going out.
What you have established is the known fact that you will grasp at
anything no matter how vacuous other than the irregular actions of the
RD in not following the SC regulations as he has strictly done
previously.
I've noted what actually happened.
Hamilton was chatty and complaining about everything except what you
say was such a terribly unfair thing.
He only complained that it was unfair after he failed to prevent
Verstappen from passing him and failed to retake the lead in the only
places on the last lap where it was possible.
Those are just facts.
And you posted it because?
Remember, you concluded nothing...
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 9:55 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making calls on
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Lewis Hamilton.
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the
situation until after he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by Verstappen,
but he was probably pretty focused until his last overtaking
opportunity went away, wouldn't you agree?
his radio I am glad to see you are beining to comprehend things
But that's my point.
When the situation change, he was still behind the pace car in a
situation that didn't yet require high levels of focus.
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete
fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other
things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars would
unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game was
played and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in part
because he thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all
along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation was
actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
And before the pace car pulled away...
...when he was informed that the lapped traffic would be let by, and
he saw it happening—all while behind the pace car...
...where was the need for his focus at that point?
...and you conclude what exactly?
On 2021-12-16 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 9:55 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the situation until after he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by
Verstappen, but he was probably pretty focused until his last overtaking opportunity went away, wouldn't you agree?
Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making calls on
his radio I am glad to see you are beining to comprehend things
But that's my point.
When the situation change, he was still behind the pace car in a situation that didn't yet require high levels of focus.
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete
fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other
things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars
would unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game
was played and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in
part because he thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all
along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation
was actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
And before the pace car pulled away...
...when he was informed that the lapped traffic would be let by,
and he saw it happening—all while behind the pace car...
...where was the need for his focus at that point?
...and you conclude what exactly?
Answer my question first.
On 2021-12-16 2:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 5:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 12:48 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Haven't you made enough of a twat of yourself over the last
few days. You've done enough to win Twat of the Year many
times over already you can stop now, TOTY.
Sorry, but I'm reporting the facts.
No, TOTY, you are just shit stirring making all sorts of
unwarranted and inane inferences.
I've made no inferences at all, sunshine.
Liar. If you had not come to some inane conclusion you would not be
making such a ridiculous post.
You have made inferences about why he wasn't more vocal... if he
wasn't; that has not been established.
That has been established. I watched the entire sequence from
Latifi's crash to the end of the racing from Hamilton's in-car feed...
...which includes all his radio messages.
Neither have you established that he knew the regs were being
ignored in those few seconds between the lapped cars passing and
the SC lights going out.
Hamilton was informed that the 5 lapped cars would be let through at
1:37:50, and he sees the last go by at 1:38:06.
So now he knows (because his engineer just told him) that Verstappen
will be right behind him. Surely you're not arguing that Hamilton
didn't know just letting 5 cars through was unusual, right?
So why didn't he raise a question then?
Then the safety car coming in is told to him at 1:38:22, so he now
knows that he will be in a one lap race against Verstappen.
From the time he's told the safety car is coming in, he doesn't
actually begin racing until 30 seconds later, and still he makes no
comment.
What you have established is the known fact that you will grasp at
anything no matter how vacuous other than the irregular actions of
the RD in not following the SC regulations as he has strictly done previously.
I've noted that the one person must affected by the unusual calls was Hamilton and he knew about the calls at a time when it would have
been EASY for him to comment.
I've noted what actually happened.
Hamilton was chatty and complaining about everything except what
you say was such a terribly unfair thing.
He only complained that it was unfair after he failed to prevent Verstappen from passing him and failed to retake the lead in the
only places on the last lap where it was possible.
Those are just facts.
And you posted it because?
Remember, you concluded nothing...
Yes. I draw attention to an unusual silence.
On 2021-12-15 8:08 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 16/12/2021 1:12 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 3:26 p.m., geoff wrote:
On 16/12/2021 3:04 am, Dan the Man wrote:
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:36:40 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.True, though there was a lot of chatter with his crew about
not getting new tires? HAM probably felt in his gut that he
was a sitting duck once VER got the new softs while he was
sitting on old hards.
Dan
Though he would have been OK from where he was with the 12 sec
lead.
But while still behind the pace car, he knew that he wouldn't
HAVE a 12 second lead.
Yes, but expected to have a whatever-second lead with the lapped
cars in between, which would have been tenable for him - and was
the call, prior to the RD's subsequent change of heart.
Or would have expected to have the lapped cars let through and the
SC to pull in after the next lap as per the regs, or finish under
the SC.
Right. And he got the news that all those "expected"s weren't what
was going to happen...
...and he made no complaint. He didn't even question it.
That's what makes me wonder what precisely the teams and Race
Director had agreed beforehand.
Hamilton got the news that you say he wouldn't have expected to get
while he was still behind the safety car.
While behind the safety car, he'd been grousing about safety car
speed and asking about his situation with respect to Verstappen. He
was even told it might finish under safety car. Then that all changes
and he has nothing to say on the subject?
Come on.
Come on what? What have you inferred?
Why are you afraid to answer my question?
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-16 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 9:55 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making calls on
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Lewis Hamilton.
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with the
situation until after he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by
Verstappen, but he was probably pretty focused until his last
overtaking opportunity went away, wouldn't you agree?
his radio I am glad to see you are beining to comprehend things
But that's my point.
When the situation change, he was still behind the pace car in a
situation that didn't yet require high levels of focus.
I can believe you believe that. You really are a complete
fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about other
things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars
would unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the game
was played and accepted the Race Director's call—probably in
part because he thought he could win anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated" all
along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed manipulation
was actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
And before the pace car pulled away...
...when he was informed that the lapped traffic would be let by,
and he saw it happening—all while behind the pace car...
...where was the need for his focus at that point?
...and you conclude what exactly?
Answer my question first.
So you have no conclusions; just inane and irrelevant speculation.
I am not afraid. You know it is a stupid question; I don't have an
answer anymore than you do.
Do you claim "omniscience" without evidence?
You have made an unsubstantiated claim and offered no conclusions of
your own that it has any relevance.
On 2021-12-17 4:19 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-16 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-15 9:55 a.m., alister wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:44:35 -0800, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-14 2:02 p.m., Alan LeHun wrote:
In article <spav8m$oep$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
...at least, until AFTER he was behind:
Lewis Hamilton.
Why do you repeatedly make such a tit of yourself?
Are you really suggesting that LH was quite happy with
the situation until after he was overtaken?
He certainly wasn't happy after he was overtaken by
Verstappen, but he was probably pretty focused until his
last overtaking opportunity went away, wouldn't you agree?
Indeed, as sugested earlier far to focused to be making
calls on his radio I am glad to see you are beining to
comprehend things
But that's my point.
When the situation change, he was still behind the pace car
in a situation that didn't yet require high levels of focus.
I can believe you believe that. You really are a
complete fuckwit.
I believe that he was complaining over the radio about
other things.
But when he received the very late call that those 5 cars
would unlap themselves, he didn't so much as grunt in
disgust.
I'm suggesting that he understood perfectly the way the
game was played and accepted the Race Director's
call—probably in part because he thought he could win
anyway.
But if he thought the situation was being "manipulated"
all along...
...why was there no complaint when that supposed
manipulation was actually happening?
Can you answer that?
no need - you did at the beginging of your post
he was focused on defending & then regaining his position
your own statements demonstrate the stupidity of your claim
bullet meet foot :-)
And before the pace car pulled away...
...when he was informed that the lapped traffic would be let
by, and he saw it happening—all while behind the pace car...
...where was the need for his focus at that point?
...and you conclude what exactly?
Answer my question first.
So you have no conclusions; just inane and irrelevant speculation.
Why are you afraid to answer my question?
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