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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 09:27:05 2021
    from
    https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-bosses-question-monzas-future/

    F1 bosses disappointed with turnout, question Monza’s future
    Date published: September 14 2021 - Michelle Foster

    Max Verstappen drives by the grandstands. Italy September 2021

    Failing to attract big crowds to the race, despite it being Ferrari’s
    home event, F1 bosses admit the Italian GP’s place on the grid is not guaranteed.

    Formula 1 was back at Monza this past weekend, the circuit playing host
    to the Italian Grand Prix.

    Daniel Ricciardo clinched the victory ahead of Lando Norris as Max
    Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton crashed out.

    The Autodromo Nazionale di Monza, to give it its full name, has been on
    the calendar since the very beginning of the Formula 1 World
    Championship back in 1950, only relinquishing the race in 1980 to Imola.

    The ‘Temple of Speed’ is a favourite amongst the driver but, for various reasons, attendance numbers have fallen in recent years.

    This year ticket sales were lower than expected with just 16,000 sold
    for race day.

    High ticket prices, poor promotion and doing away with grass seating are believed to be the main causes although one cannot discount the Ferrari
    effect with the Scuderia struggling, having not won a Drivers’ title
    since 2007.

    It begs the question whether Monza has a future on the Formula 1 calendar.

    FIA president, and former Ferrari team boss, Jean Todt says he is unsure.

    Charles Leclerc with Monza fans. Italy September 2021.

    Check all the latest 2021 teamwear via the official Formula 1 store

    “Why so little public in Monza? During Friday’s qualifying I was disappointed looking at the stands,” Todt told Gazzetta dello Sport.

    “I would be disappointed if there wasn’t at least one race in Italy on
    the Formula 1 calendar for the next few years.

    “But it is a question to ask Stefano Domenicali.”

    Domenicali’s answer wasn’t very encouraging.

    “We are discussing with the organisers precisely to understand how to relaunch the grand prix,” said the Formula 1 CEO and former Ferrari team.

    “I find it hard to think of an F1 without Monza, but events are also
    business and there must be an economic return that justifies them.”

    Monza is certain of its Formula 1 future until the end of 2024 having
    signed a new five-year contract back in 2019.

    Speaking at the time, then F1 chief Chase Carey said: “This is one of
    four grands prix that were part of the 1950 championship and still
    features in the calendar and along with the British Grand Prix, it is
    the only one to have been held every year since then.

    “History, speed and passion are words that motorsport fans associate
    with Monza.”

    That association may not be enough to save Monza unless fans start
    attending the grand prix.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 12:29:05 2021
    On 9/14/2021 12:27 PM, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-bosses-question-monzas-future/

    F1 bosses disappointed with turnout, question Monza’s future
    Date published: September 14 2021 - Michelle Foster

    Max Verstappen drives by the grandstands. Italy September 2021

    Failing to attract big crowds to the race, despite it being Ferrari’s
    home event, F1 bosses admit the Italian GP’s place on the grid is not guaranteed.

    Formula 1 was back at Monza this past weekend, the circuit playing host
    to the Italian Grand Prix.

    Daniel Ricciardo clinched the victory ahead of Lando Norris as Max
    Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton crashed out.

    The Autodromo Nazionale di Monza, to give it its full name, has been on
    the calendar since the very beginning of the Formula 1 World
    Championship back in 1950, only relinquishing the race in 1980 to Imola.

    The ‘Temple of Speed’ is a favourite amongst the driver but, for various reasons, attendance numbers have fallen in recent years.

    This year ticket sales were lower than expected with just 16,000 sold
    for race day.

    High ticket prices, poor promotion and doing away with grass seating are believed to be the main causes although one cannot discount the Ferrari effect with the Scuderia struggling, having not won a Drivers’ title
    since 2007.

    It begs the question whether Monza has a future on the Formula 1 calendar.

    FIA president, and former Ferrari team boss, Jean Todt says he is unsure.

    Charles Leclerc with Monza fans. Italy September 2021.

    Check all the latest 2021 teamwear via the official Formula 1 store

    “Why so little public in Monza? During Friday’s qualifying I was disappointed looking at the stands,” Todt told Gazzetta dello Sport.

    “I would be disappointed if there wasn’t at least one race in Italy on the Formula 1 calendar for the next few years.

    “But it is a question to ask Stefano Domenicali.”

    Domenicali’s answer wasn’t very encouraging.

    “We are discussing with the organisers precisely to understand how to relaunch the grand prix,” said the Formula 1 CEO and former Ferrari team.

    “I find it hard to think of an F1 without Monza, but events are also business and there must be an economic return that justifies them.”

    Monza is certain of its Formula 1 future until the end of 2024 having
    signed a new five-year contract back in 2019.

    Speaking at the time, then F1 chief Chase Carey said: “This is one of
    four grands prix that were part of the 1950 championship and still
    features in the calendar and along with the British Grand Prix, it is
    the only one to have been held every year since then.

    “History, speed and passion are words that motorsport fans associate
    with Monza.”

    That association may not be enough to save Monza unless fans start
    attending the grand prix.




    It's not Monza, it's the 'racing', such as it is.

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  • From alister@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 16:37:10 2021
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 09:27:05 -0700, a425couple wrote:

    from https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-bosses-question-monzas-future/

    F1 bosses disappointed with turnout, question Monza’s future Date published: September 14 2021 - Michelle Foster

    Max Verstappen drives by the grandstands. Italy September 2021

    Failing to attract big crowds to the race, despite it being Ferrari’s
    home event, F1 bosses admit the Italian GP’s place on the grid is not guaranteed.

    Formula 1 was back at Monza this past weekend, the circuit playing host
    to the Italian Grand Prix.

    Daniel Ricciardo clinched the victory ahead of Lando Norris as Max
    Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton crashed out.

    The Autodromo Nazionale di Monza, to give it its full name, has been on
    the calendar since the very beginning of the Formula 1 World
    Championship back in 1950, only relinquishing the race in 1980 to Imola.

    The ‘Temple of Speed’ is a favourite amongst the driver but, for various reasons, attendance numbers have fallen in recent years.

    This year ticket sales were lower than expected with just 16,000 sold
    for race day.

    High ticket prices, poor promotion and doing away with grass seating are believed to be the main causes although one cannot discount the Ferrari effect with the Scuderia struggling, having not won a Drivers’ title
    since 2007.

    It begs the question whether Monza has a future on the Formula 1
    calendar.

    FIA president, and former Ferrari team boss, Jean Todt says he is
    unsure.

    Charles Leclerc with Monza fans. Italy September 2021.

    Check all the latest 2021 teamwear via the official Formula 1 store

    “Why so little public in Monza? During Friday’s qualifying I was disappointed looking at the stands,” Todt told Gazzetta dello Sport.

    “I would be disappointed if there wasn’t at least one race in Italy on the Formula 1 calendar for the next few years.

    “But it is a question to ask Stefano Domenicali.”

    Domenicali’s answer wasn’t very encouraging.

    “We are discussing with the organisers precisely to understand how to relaunch the grand prix,” said the Formula 1 CEO and former Ferrari
    team.

    “I find it hard to think of an F1 without Monza, but events are also business and there must be an economic return that justifies them.”

    Monza is certain of its Formula 1 future until the end of 2024 having
    signed a new five-year contract back in 2019.

    Speaking at the time, then F1 chief Chase Carey said: “This is one of
    four grands prix that were part of the 1950 championship and still
    features in the calendar and along with the British Grand Prix, it is
    the only one to have been held every year since then.

    “History, speed and passion are words that motorsport fans associate
    with Monza.”

    That association may not be enough to save Monza unless fans start
    attending the grand prix.


    We are in the middle of a plauge ffs!


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  • From alister@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Tue Sep 14 18:13:09 2021
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:18:56 -0700, XYXPDQ wrote:

    Surprised that many showed with the "delta" paranoia.

    i guess the Italians have more sense than some



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  • From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 10:18:56 2021
    Surprised that many showed with the "delta" paranoia.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to News on Wed Sep 15 12:07:30 2021
    On 15/09/2021 4:29 am, News wrote:
    On 9/14/2021 12:27 PM, a425couple wrote:
    from
    https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-bosses-question-monzas-future/

    F1 bosses disappointed with turnout, question Monza’s future
    Date published: September 14 2021 - Michelle Foster

    Max Verstappen drives by the grandstands. Italy September 2021

    Failing to attract big crowds to the race, despite it being Ferrari’s
    home event, F1 bosses admit the Italian GP’s place on the grid is not
    guaranteed.

    Formula 1 was back at Monza this past weekend, the circuit playing
    host to the Italian Grand Prix.

    Daniel Ricciardo clinched the victory ahead of Lando Norris as Max
    Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton crashed out.

    The Autodromo Nazionale di Monza, to give it its full name, has been
    on the calendar since the very beginning of the Formula 1 World
    Championship back in 1950, only relinquishing the race in 1980 to Imola.

    The ‘Temple of Speed’ is a favourite amongst the driver but, for
    various reasons, attendance numbers have fallen in recent years.

    This year ticket sales were lower than expected with just 16,000 sold
    for race day.

    High ticket prices, poor promotion and doing away with grass seating
    are believed to be the main causes although one cannot discount the
    Ferrari effect with the Scuderia struggling, having not won a Drivers’
    title since 2007.

    It begs the question whether Monza has a future on the Formula 1
    calendar.

    FIA president, and former Ferrari team boss, Jean Todt says he is unsure.

    Charles Leclerc with Monza fans. Italy September 2021.

    Check all the latest 2021 teamwear via the official Formula 1 store

    “Why so little public in Monza? During Friday’s qualifying I was
    disappointed looking at the stands,” Todt told Gazzetta dello Sport.

    “I would be disappointed if there wasn’t at least one race in Italy on >> the Formula 1 calendar for the next few years.

    “But it is a question to ask Stefano Domenicali.”

    Domenicali’s answer wasn’t very encouraging.

    “We are discussing with the organisers precisely to understand how to
    relaunch the grand prix,” said the Formula 1 CEO and former Ferrari team. >>
    “I find it hard to think of an F1 without Monza, but events are also
    business and there must be an economic return that justifies them.”

    Monza is certain of its Formula 1 future until the end of 2024 having
    signed a new five-year contract back in 2019.

    Speaking at the time, then F1 chief Chase Carey said: “This is one of
    four grands prix that were part of the 1950 championship and still
    features in the calendar and along with the British Grand Prix, it is
    the only one to have been held every year since then.

    “History, speed and passion are words that motorsport fans associate
    with Monza.”

    That association may not be enough to save Monza unless fans start
    attending the grand prix.




    It's not Monza, it's the 'racing', such as it is.

    And maybe the huge number of Covid deaths early on in Italy may have
    encouraged watching broadcast.

    geoff

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  • From ~misfit~@21:1/5 to alister on Wed Sep 15 16:21:09 2021
    On 15/09/2021 6:13 am, alister wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:18:56 -0700, XYXPDQ wrote:

    Surprised that many showed with the "delta" paranoia.

    i guess the Italians have more sense than some

    Yep. They did get hit hard by Covid-19 early on. Maybe it killed a bunch of the hard-core tifosi?

    Also perhaps they, like me, aren't keen on supporting a team that keeps on cheating...
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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 06:59:11 2021
    On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 10:21:11 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

    Also perhaps they, like me, aren't keen on supporting a team that keeps on cheating...

    This from a thief that pirates sky f1.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 16 09:07:33 2021
    On 15/09/2021 4:21 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 15/09/2021 6:13 am, alister wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:18:56 -0700, XYXPDQ wrote:

    Surprised that many showed with the "delta" paranoia.

    i guess the Italians have more sense than some

    Yep. They did get hit hard by Covid-19 early on. Maybe it killed a bunch
    of the hard-core tifosi?

    Also perhaps they, like me, aren't keen on supporting a team that keeps
    on cheating...


    I'd have thought that that would have been an *attraction*.

    geoff

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to Phil Carmody on Wed Sep 15 16:27:20 2021
    On 2021-09-15 3:58 PM, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 15/09/2021 6:13 am, alister wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 10:18:56 -0700, XYXPDQ wrote:

    Surprised that many showed with the "delta" paranoia.

    i guess the Italians have more sense than some

    Yep. They did get hit hard by Covid-19 early on. Maybe it killed a
    bunch of the hard-core tifosi?

    Also perhaps they, like me, aren't keen on supporting a team that
    keeps on cheating...

    That's a positive spin. I was thinking that they're so fucking shallow
    that they're only fans when their team's winning.

    Phil


    Sadly, there are a significant number of people who are only fans when
    their team is winning. Or when "their" driver is no longer competitive
    (or even driving). Look at how German support dropped off when Michael
    was no longer racing.

    Although, in the case of this year's Monza, I suspect the on again/off
    again schedule deterred some fans from booking tickets, travel and accommodations.

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