• Welcome to the 'terrifying' KSA GP sportswash... rinse and repeat !

    From News@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 2 15:21:52 2021
    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/02/lewis-hamilton-condemns-terrifying-lgbtq-laws-before-saudi-arabian-gp

    "Lewis Hamilton has said he is not comfortable competing in Saudi Arabia
    given its repressive laws regarding the LGBTQ+ community. Speaking
    before this weekend’s grand prix in Jeddah, Hamilton described the laws
    as “terrifying” and once more called on Formula One to do more to
    address human rights issues in the countries it visits.

    On Wednesday a range of human rights groups wrote to F1, accusing the
    sport of being complicit in Saudi Arabia’s sportswashing by competing in
    the country. They highlighted women’s rights activists who risk
    imprisonment for their actions, with Human Rights Watch citing “Saudi Arabia’s brutal crackdown on peaceful dissidents”. Amnesty International called on drivers to speak out, drawing attention to the plight of Saudi
    LGBTQ+ people who live in a country where same-sex relations are illegal
    and punishable by flogging or imprisonment.

    Lewis Hamilton
    Grenfell Tower: Gove joins condemnation of Lewis Hamilton F1 deal
    Read more
    F1 has attracted considerable criticism for racing in Saudi Arabia and Hamilton, who has been a strident supporter of equality and diversity,
    admitted he did not feel at ease with the regime.

    “Do I feel comfortable here? I wouldn’t say I do,” he said. “But it’s not my choice to be here, the sport has taken the choice to be here.”

    Hamilton goes into the meeting, the first to be held in Saudi Arabia, in
    a tightly fought battle with Red Bull’s Max Verstappen who leads the championship by eight points with two rounds remaining. Yet much as the
    world champion is focused on this nail-biting finish, Hamilton, as he
    has been in the past, was also insistent that he would play a part in
    trying to make a difference.

    “Whilst we are here it’s important we do try to raise awareness,” he said. “In the last race you saw the [rainbow] helmet that I wore. I will
    wear that again here and in the next race [in Abu Dhabi] because it is
    an issue. If anyone wants to take time to read what the law is for the
    LGBT+ community, it is pretty terrifying. There are changes that need to
    be made.”

    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand Prix
    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand
    Prix. Photograph: Mario Renzi/Formula 1/Getty Images
    Hamilton’s words will be hammer blows to the Saudi authorities who have invested heavily in attracting sporting events to the country and whose sovereign wealth fund recently succeeded in a takeover bid for Newcastle United. He is the sport’s biggest, most recognised global star and this
    is the first time he has spoken so bluntly about being uncomfortable to
    be competing in a specific country because of its repressive regime.

    At the last round in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are also
    illegal, Hamilton wore a helmet with the rainbow and coloured chevrons
    in support of the LGBTQ+ community and will do so again here. “The sport
    and we are duty bound to make sure we try to raise awareness for certain
    issues we have seen, particularly human rights in these countries that
    we are going to,” he said.

    The four-times world champion Sebastian Vettel will also be
    demonstrating his support this weekend, wearing rainbow-adorned
    trainers. He organised a karting session at the track on Thursday for
    women and girl drivers to show solidarity with them, given they were
    given the right to drive only in 2018.

    The Williams team principal, Jost Capito, will not be in attendance at
    the race after testing positive for Covid-19 before flying to Saudi
    Arabia and will remain in the UK.

    Sacha Deshmukh, Amnesty International UK’s CEO, welcomed Hamilton’s stance.

    “It’s extremely encouraging to see Lewis Hamilton speaking out on
    women’s and LGBTI rights in Saudi Arabia like this,” he said. “It’s high-profile interventions like Lewis’s that help undo some of the sportwashing effects of Saudi-hosted events such as the Jeddah Grand Prix.

    “Coming after the purchase of Newcastle United, the hosting of big-money boxing bouts and numerous top-tier golf and tennis tournaments, the
    Jeddah race is clearly Saudi Arabia’s latest bid to once again
    sportswash its dismal human rights record.”

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to News on Thu Dec 2 21:13:21 2021
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 1:21:56 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP

    as he burns saudi hydrocarbons

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to texas gate on Thu Dec 2 21:21:23 2021
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 10:13:22 PM UTC-7, texas gate wrote:

    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 1:21:56 PM UTC-7, News wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP

    as he burns saudi hydrocarbons

    And Aramco sponsors all the races.
    When is that moron going to the electric series?

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  • From central77@21:1/5 to News on Fri Dec 3 12:37:47 2021
    On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 15:21:52 -0500, News wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/02/lewis-hamilton-condemns-
    terrifying-lgbtq-laws-before-saudi-arabian-gp


    meanwhile, from the same paper (although I'm no fan of Gove) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/02/grenfell-survivors- outraged-by-lewis-hamilton-car-sponsorship-deal

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to News on Fri Dec 3 05:29:03 2021
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 3:21:56 PM UTC-5, News wrote:
    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/02/lewis-hamilton-condemns-terrifying-lgbtq-laws-before-saudi-arabian-gp

    "Lewis Hamilton has said he is not comfortable competing in Saudi Arabia given its repressive laws regarding the LGBTQ+ community. Speaking
    before this weekend’s grand prix in Jeddah, Hamilton described the laws
    as “terrifying” and once more called on Formula One to do more to address human rights issues in the countries it visits.

    On Wednesday a range of human rights groups wrote to F1, accusing the
    sport of being complicit in Saudi Arabia’s sportswashing by competing in the country. They highlighted women’s rights activists who risk imprisonment for their actions, with Human Rights Watch citing “Saudi Arabia’s brutal crackdown on peaceful dissidents”. Amnesty International called on drivers to speak out, drawing attention to the plight of Saudi LGBTQ+ people who live in a country where same-sex relations are illegal
    and punishable by flogging or imprisonment.

    Lewis Hamilton
    Grenfell Tower: Gove joins condemnation of Lewis Hamilton F1 deal
    Read more
    F1 has attracted considerable criticism for racing in Saudi Arabia and Hamilton, who has been a strident supporter of equality and diversity, admitted he did not feel at ease with the regime.

    “Do I feel comfortable here? I wouldn’t say I do,” he said. “But it’s
    not my choice to be here, the sport has taken the choice to be here.”

    Hamilton goes into the meeting, the first to be held in Saudi Arabia, in
    a tightly fought battle with Red Bull’s Max Verstappen who leads the championship by eight points with two rounds remaining. Yet much as the world champion is focused on this nail-biting finish, Hamilton, as he
    has been in the past, was also insistent that he would play a part in
    trying to make a difference.

    “Whilst we are here it’s important we do try to raise awareness,” he said. “In the last race you saw the [rainbow] helmet that I wore. I will wear that again here and in the next race [in Abu Dhabi] because it is
    an issue. If anyone wants to take time to read what the law is for the
    LGBT+ community, it is pretty terrifying. There are changes that need to
    be made.”

    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand Prix Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand
    Prix. Photograph: Mario Renzi/Formula 1/Getty Images
    Hamilton’s words will be hammer blows to the Saudi authorities who have invested heavily in attracting sporting events to the country and whose sovereign wealth fund recently succeeded in a takeover bid for Newcastle United. He is the sport’s biggest, most recognised global star and this
    is the first time he has spoken so bluntly about being uncomfortable to
    be competing in a specific country because of its repressive regime.

    At the last round in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are also
    illegal, Hamilton wore a helmet with the rainbow and coloured chevrons
    in support of the LGBTQ+ community and will do so again here. “The sport and we are duty bound to make sure we try to raise awareness for certain issues we have seen, particularly human rights in these countries that
    we are going to,” he said.

    The four-times world champion Sebastian Vettel will also be
    demonstrating his support this weekend, wearing rainbow-adorned
    trainers. He organised a karting session at the track on Thursday for
    women and girl drivers to show solidarity with them, given they were
    given the right to drive only in 2018.

    The Williams team principal, Jost Capito, will not be in attendance at
    the race after testing positive for Covid-19 before flying to Saudi
    Arabia and will remain in the UK.

    Sacha Deshmukh, Amnesty International UK’s CEO, welcomed Hamilton’s stance.

    “It’s extremely encouraging to see Lewis Hamilton speaking out on women’s and LGBTI rights in Saudi Arabia like this,” he said. “It’s high-profile interventions like Lewis’s that help undo some of the sportwashing effects of Saudi-hosted events such as the Jeddah Grand Prix.

    “Coming after the purchase of Newcastle United, the hosting of big-money boxing bouts and numerous top-tier golf and tennis tournaments, the
    Jeddah race is clearly Saudi Arabia’s latest bid to once again
    sportswash its dismal human rights record.”
    Oh fer cryin' out loud, Lewis! Nobody's asking you to live your life there, just race for one weekend and get the heck out of there. SJW's are so insufferable!

    Dan

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Fri Dec 3 10:11:06 2021
    On 2021-12-03 5:29 a.m., Dan the Man wrote:
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 3:21:56 PM UTC-5, News wrote:
    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP >>
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/02/lewis-hamilton-condemns-terrifying-lgbtq-laws-before-saudi-arabian-gp

    "Lewis Hamilton has said he is not comfortable competing in Saudi Arabia
    given its repressive laws regarding the LGBTQ+ community. Speaking
    before this weekend’s grand prix in Jeddah, Hamilton described the laws
    as “terrifying” and once more called on Formula One to do more to
    address human rights issues in the countries it visits.

    On Wednesday a range of human rights groups wrote to F1, accusing the
    sport of being complicit in Saudi Arabia’s sportswashing by competing in >> the country. They highlighted women’s rights activists who risk
    imprisonment for their actions, with Human Rights Watch citing “Saudi
    Arabia’s brutal crackdown on peaceful dissidents”. Amnesty International >> called on drivers to speak out, drawing attention to the plight of Saudi
    LGBTQ+ people who live in a country where same-sex relations are illegal
    and punishable by flogging or imprisonment.

    Lewis Hamilton
    Grenfell Tower: Gove joins condemnation of Lewis Hamilton F1 deal
    Read more
    F1 has attracted considerable criticism for racing in Saudi Arabia and
    Hamilton, who has been a strident supporter of equality and diversity,
    admitted he did not feel at ease with the regime.

    “Do I feel comfortable here? I wouldn’t say I do,” he said. “But it’s
    not my choice to be here, the sport has taken the choice to be here.”

    Hamilton goes into the meeting, the first to be held in Saudi Arabia, in
    a tightly fought battle with Red Bull’s Max Verstappen who leads the
    championship by eight points with two rounds remaining. Yet much as the
    world champion is focused on this nail-biting finish, Hamilton, as he
    has been in the past, was also insistent that he would play a part in
    trying to make a difference.

    “Whilst we are here it’s important we do try to raise awareness,” he >> said. “In the last race you saw the [rainbow] helmet that I wore. I will >> wear that again here and in the next race [in Abu Dhabi] because it is
    an issue. If anyone wants to take time to read what the law is for the
    LGBT+ community, it is pretty terrifying. There are changes that need to
    be made.”

    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand Prix
    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand
    Prix. Photograph: Mario Renzi/Formula 1/Getty Images
    Hamilton’s words will be hammer blows to the Saudi authorities who have
    invested heavily in attracting sporting events to the country and whose
    sovereign wealth fund recently succeeded in a takeover bid for Newcastle
    United. He is the sport’s biggest, most recognised global star and this
    is the first time he has spoken so bluntly about being uncomfortable to
    be competing in a specific country because of its repressive regime.

    At the last round in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are also
    illegal, Hamilton wore a helmet with the rainbow and coloured chevrons
    in support of the LGBTQ+ community and will do so again here. “The sport >> and we are duty bound to make sure we try to raise awareness for certain
    issues we have seen, particularly human rights in these countries that
    we are going to,” he said.

    The four-times world champion Sebastian Vettel will also be
    demonstrating his support this weekend, wearing rainbow-adorned
    trainers. He organised a karting session at the track on Thursday for
    women and girl drivers to show solidarity with them, given they were
    given the right to drive only in 2018.

    The Williams team principal, Jost Capito, will not be in attendance at
    the race after testing positive for Covid-19 before flying to Saudi
    Arabia and will remain in the UK.

    Sacha Deshmukh, Amnesty International UK’s CEO, welcomed Hamilton’s stance.

    “It’s extremely encouraging to see Lewis Hamilton speaking out on
    women’s and LGBTI rights in Saudi Arabia like this,” he said. “It’s >> high-profile interventions like Lewis’s that help undo some of the
    sportwashing effects of Saudi-hosted events such as the Jeddah Grand Prix. >>
    “Coming after the purchase of Newcastle United, the hosting of big-money >> boxing bouts and numerous top-tier golf and tennis tournaments, the
    Jeddah race is clearly Saudi Arabia’s latest bid to once again
    sportswash its dismal human rights record.”
    Oh fer cryin' out loud, Lewis! Nobody's asking you to live your life there, just race for one weekend and get the heck out of there. SJW's are so insufferable!

    Dan


    Dan, if you can't see that this is providing support for a horrible
    regime, you're pretty damn thick... ...or a pretty horrible person.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Fri Dec 3 18:38:53 2021
    Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 3:21:56 PM UTC-5, News wrote:
    Lewis Hamilton condemns ‘terrifying’ LGBTQ+ laws before Saudi Arabian GP >>
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/02/lewis-hamilton-condemns-terrifying-lgbtq-laws-before-saudi-arabian-gp


    "Lewis Hamilton has said he is not comfortable competing in Saudi Arabia
    given its repressive laws regarding the LGBTQ+ community. Speaking
    before this weekend’s grand prix in Jeddah, Hamilton described the laws
    as “terrifying” and once more called on Formula One to do more to
    address human rights issues in the countries it visits.

    On Wednesday a range of human rights groups wrote to F1, accusing the
    sport of being complicit in Saudi Arabia’s sportswashing by competing in >> the country. They highlighted women’s rights activists who risk
    imprisonment for their actions, with Human Rights Watch citing “Saudi
    Arabia’s brutal crackdown on peaceful dissidents”. Amnesty International >> called on drivers to speak out, drawing attention to the plight of Saudi
    LGBTQ+ people who live in a country where same-sex relations are illegal
    and punishable by flogging or imprisonment.

    Lewis Hamilton
    Grenfell Tower: Gove joins condemnation of Lewis Hamilton F1 deal
    Read more
    F1 has attracted considerable criticism for racing in Saudi Arabia and
    Hamilton, who has been a strident supporter of equality and diversity,
    admitted he did not feel at ease with the regime.

    “Do I feel comfortable here? I wouldn’t say I do,” he said. “But it’s
    not my choice to be here, the sport has taken the choice to be here.”

    Hamilton goes into the meeting, the first to be held in Saudi Arabia, in
    a tightly fought battle with Red Bull’s Max Verstappen who leads the
    championship by eight points with two rounds remaining. Yet much as the
    world champion is focused on this nail-biting finish, Hamilton, as he
    has been in the past, was also insistent that he would play a part in
    trying to make a difference.

    “Whilst we are here it’s important we do try to raise awareness,” he >> said. “In the last race you saw the [rainbow] helmet that I wore. I will >> wear that again here and in the next race [in Abu Dhabi] because it is
    an issue. If anyone wants to take time to read what the law is for the
    LGBT+ community, it is pretty terrifying. There are changes that need to
    be made.”

    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand Prix
    Lewis Hamilton wears a rainbow helmet while winning the Qatar Grand
    Prix. Photograph: Mario Renzi/Formula 1/Getty Images
    Hamilton’s words will be hammer blows to the Saudi authorities who have
    invested heavily in attracting sporting events to the country and whose
    sovereign wealth fund recently succeeded in a takeover bid for Newcastle
    United. He is the sport’s biggest, most recognised global star and this
    is the first time he has spoken so bluntly about being uncomfortable to
    be competing in a specific country because of its repressive regime.

    At the last round in Qatar, where same-sex relationships are also
    illegal, Hamilton wore a helmet with the rainbow and coloured chevrons
    in support of the LGBTQ+ community and will do so again here. “The sport >> and we are duty bound to make sure we try to raise awareness for certain
    issues we have seen, particularly human rights in these countries that
    we are going to,” he said.

    The four-times world champion Sebastian Vettel will also be
    demonstrating his support this weekend, wearing rainbow-adorned
    trainers. He organised a karting session at the track on Thursday for
    women and girl drivers to show solidarity with them, given they were
    given the right to drive only in 2018.

    The Williams team principal, Jost Capito, will not be in attendance at
    the race after testing positive for Covid-19 before flying to Saudi
    Arabia and will remain in the UK.

    Sacha Deshmukh, Amnesty International UK’s CEO, welcomed Hamilton’s stance.

    “It’s extremely encouraging to see Lewis Hamilton speaking out on
    women’s and LGBTI rights in Saudi Arabia like this,” he said. “It’s >> high-profile interventions like Lewis’s that help undo some of the
    sportwashing effects of Saudi-hosted events such as the Jeddah Grand Prix. >>
    “Coming after the purchase of Newcastle United, the hosting of big-money >> boxing bouts and numerous top-tier golf and tennis tournaments, the
    Jeddah race is clearly Saudi Arabia’s latest bid to once again
    sportswash its dismal human rights record.”
    Oh fer cryin' out loud, Lewis! Nobody's asking you to live your life
    there, just race for one weekend and get the heck out of there. SJW's are so insufferable!

    Dan

    Totally disagree. Saudi Arabia has an appallingly oppressive regime and,
    whilst outside powers cannot tell the Saudis how to run their country they
    can, and should, express their disapproval by all means possible.

    IMO the SAGP should never have been held in the first place but, given that Liberty (ironic title) and the FIA have decided that it should go ahead the drivers have little alternative but to take part. Probably only Hamilton
    has the status within the sport to be able to express opinions that I feel
    sure other drivers share.

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Dec 3 11:38:33 2021
    On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 11:11:09 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    ...or a pretty horrible person.

    this coming from a deluxe, fucking, cock sucking, cunt

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to texas gate on Fri Dec 3 11:44:56 2021
    On 2021-12-03 11:38 a.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 11:11:09 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    ...or a pretty horrible person.

    this coming from a deluxe, fucking, cock sucking, cunt


    This coming from the child who regularly competes for the title:

    "Dullest person on Usenet"

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Sat Dec 4 16:40:47 2021
    Dan the Man wrote:

    Oh fer cryin' out loud, Lewis! Nobody's asking you to live your life
    there, just race for one weekend and get the heck out of there. SJW's
    are so insufferable!

    Dan

    Not as intolerable as unprincipled loud-mouths who ironically think
    they have a right to tell others when they can or can't express their
    opinions.

    I assume you agree; if not just watch the race and STFU. :D

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