• TPMS 2003 Vibe vs. 2008 Vibe

    From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 21:56:36 2016
    XPost: alt.autos.pontiac, rec.autos.tech, alt.autos.gm

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which
    to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does not
    have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove
    parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good
    price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work
    with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    Perce

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  • From Steve W.@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Sat Nov 5 01:16:47 2016
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    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which
    to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does not
    have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove
    parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good
    price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work
    with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    Perce


    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model year.
    Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage
    yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    --
    Steve W.

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to Steve W. on Sat Nov 5 11:17:26 2016
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    On 11/05/2016 01:16 AM, Steve W. wrote:

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which
    to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does
    not have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove
    parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good
    price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work
    with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model year.
    Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage
    yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    Used wheels specifically listed as for a Vibe cost more than new
    after-market wheels from Belle Tire.

    What other vehicle is likely to have the right size wheels and
    compatible TPMS sensors?

    Perce

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Sat Nov 5 13:17:03 2016
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    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 01:16 AM, Steve W. wrote:

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which
    to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does
    not have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove
    parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good
    price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work
    with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model year. >> Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage
    yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    Used wheels specifically listed as for a Vibe cost more than new after-market wheels from
    Belle Tire.

    What other vehicle is likely to have the right size wheels and compatible TPMS sensors?

    Perce

    Might want to call Toyota and ask if the wheels from a Matrix / Corolla will work.
    Same vehicle, different name, but I don't know if the electronics are same.

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sat Nov 5 15:58:28 2016
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    On 11/05/2016 02:17 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which >>>> to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does
    not have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove
    parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good
    price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work
    with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model
    year.
    Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage
    yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    Used wheels specifically listed as for a Vibe cost more than new
    after-market wheels from
    Belle Tire.

    What other vehicle is likely to have the right size wheels and
    compatible TPMS sensors?

    Might want to call Toyota and ask if the wheels from a Matrix / Corolla
    will work.
    Same vehicle, different name, but I don't know if the electronics are same.

    I found the TPMSdirect.com Web site, which shows the same Part# as I
    found on a GM parts Web site (88974915), but none of the other makes and
    models (whether GM or Toyota) I've checked on the TPMSdirect.com Web
    site seems to use the same part.

    I don't have much time to take advantage of Costco's $70 discount on the
    tires I want plus $60 discount on the installation charge, so maybe I'll
    settle for just the wheels from the pick-your-part Vibe, and let Costco
    charge me for a new set of TPMS sensors; that's what I had to do to get
    them to install snow tires on the steelies I put on the Chrysler 300M
    two winters ago -- the only trouble with them is that I have to go back
    to Costco every winter to have them reprogram the car's TPMS receiver to recognize the "foreign" sensors.

    Perce

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Sat Nov 5 19:31:42 2016
    XPost: alt.autos.pontiac, rec.autos.tech, alt.autos.gm

    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 02:17 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which >>>>> to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does >>>>> not have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove >>>>> parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good >>>>> price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work >>>>> with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model
    year.
    Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage >>>> yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    Used wheels specifically listed as for a Vibe cost more than new
    after-market wheels from
    Belle Tire.

    What other vehicle is likely to have the right size wheels and
    compatible TPMS sensors?

    Might want to call Toyota and ask if the wheels from a Matrix / Corolla
    will work.
    Same vehicle, different name, but I don't know if the electronics are same.

    I found the TPMSdirect.com Web site, which shows the same Part# as I found on a GM parts
    Web site (88974915), but none of the other makes and models (whether GM or Toyota) I've
    checked on the TPMSdirect.com Web site seems to use the same part.

    I don't have much time to take advantage of Costco's $70 discount on the tires I want plus
    $60 discount on the installation charge, so maybe I'll settle for just the wheels from the
    pick-your-part Vibe, and let Costco charge me for a new set of TPMS sensors; that's what I
    had to do to get them to install snow tires on the steelies I put on the Chrysler 300M two
    winters ago -- the only trouble with them is that I have to go back to Costco every winter
    to have them reprogram the car's TPMS receiver to recognize the "foreign" sensors.

    Perce

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Sat Nov 5 18:44:54 2016
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    On 11/05/2016 05:31 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

    ...depending on availability of the item in question. God help you if
    you need the only one within 75 miles!


    --
    Cheers, Bev
    I didn't break it! It was doing that before I broke it... er...

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sun Nov 6 16:31:29 2016
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    On 11/05/2016 09:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

    ...depending on availability of the item in question. God help you if
    you need the only one within 75 miles!

    The local pick-your-part place has standard prices for wheels, dependent
    on size and material (steel or aluminum).

    Perce

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Sun Nov 6 20:28:17 2016
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    On 11/06/2016 01:31 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 09:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

    ...depending on availability of the item in question. God help you if
    you need the only one within 75 miles!

    The local pick-your-part place has standard prices for wheels, dependent
    on size and material (steel or aluminum).

    I suspect I have on the order of 100 wrecking yards to choose from, and
    they're all connected to one another -- call one, and if they don't have
    it they'll find it for you. Sometimes they'll even bring it from the
    distant yard to the one you called. They obviously agree among
    themselves on a price. They also take cores and accept returns. Very
    helpful. On the whole, I like wrecking-yard guys.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "When your enemies are making mistakes, don't interrupt them."
    -- from the film 'Moneyball'

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sun Nov 6 23:40:35 2016
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    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 11/06/2016 01:31 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 09:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

    ...depending on availability of the item in question. God help you if
    you need the only one within 75 miles!

    The local pick-your-part place has standard prices for wheels, dependent
    on size and material (steel or aluminum).

    I suspect I have on the order of 100 wrecking yards to choose from, and they're all
    connected to one another -- call one, and if they don't have it they'll find it for you.
    Sometimes they'll even bring it from the distant yard to the one you called. They
    obviously agree among themselves on a price. They also take cores and accept returns.
    Very helpful. On the whole, I like wrecking-yard guys.

    They all go by Hollanders suggested prices.
    For several summers during school I used to work at a junkyard and that
    is what we and other yards used.
    https://www.hollanderparts.com/
    Junkyards around Houston do not show up on Hollanders or car-part.com.
    Don't know why. The nearest parts for my 06 Kia are hundreds of miles away.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Paul in Houston TX on Mon Nov 7 15:15:16 2016
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    On 11/06/2016 09:40 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    The Real Bev wrote:
    On 11/06/2016 01:31 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 09:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

    Junk yard prices are often negotiable.

    ...depending on availability of the item in question. God help you if >>>> you need the only one within 75 miles!

    The local pick-your-part place has standard prices for wheels, dependent >>> on size and material (steel or aluminum).

    I suspect I have on the order of 100 wrecking yards to choose from, and they're all
    connected to one another -- call one, and if they don't have it they'll find it for you.
    Sometimes they'll even bring it from the distant yard to the one you called. They
    obviously agree among themselves on a price. They also take cores and accept returns.
    Very helpful. On the whole, I like wrecking-yard guys.

    They all go by Hollanders suggested prices.
    For several summers during school I used to work at a junkyard and that
    is what we and other yards used.
    https://www.hollanderparts.com/
    Junkyards around Houston do not show up on Hollanders or car-part.com.
    Don't know why. The nearest parts for my 06 Kia are hundreds of miles away.

    Last time I bought something at a junkyard was... maybe 20 years ago.
    Damn. The independent GM guy who fixed my 88 Cad maybe 3 years ago had
    a real bitch finding one weird throttle part, and couldn't find any of
    the others.

    Gone to the knackers now. Sorry, in a way, but mostly not.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect
    our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security."
    --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Thu Nov 10 19:36:18 2016
    XPost: alt.autos.pontiac, rec.autos.tech, alt.autos.gm

    On 11/05/2016 03:58 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

    I have a 2008 Vibe and want to get a set of used steel wheels on which >>>>> to get snow tires fitted. The installer (Costco) says they are not
    allowed to install tires if the vehicle originally had TPMS and does >>>>> not have functioning TPMS.

    I have just discovered that a local junk yard that lets people remove >>>>> parts themselves has a 2003 Vibe. If I can get the wheels for a good >>>>> price (with the TPMS sensors, assuming it has them), would they work >>>>> with the 2008 TPMS? Same frequency, etc.?

    03 won't have TPMS. TPMS didn't start on the Vibe until the 05 model
    year.
    Go to carpart.com punch in the information and it will show you salvage >>>> yards in your area that have the wheels you are looking for.

    Used wheels specifically listed as for a Vibe cost more than new
    after-market wheels from
    Belle Tire.

    What other vehicle is likely to have the right size wheels and
    compatible TPMS sensors?

    Might want to call Toyota and ask if the wheels from a Matrix / Corolla
    will work.
    Same vehicle, different name, but I don't know if the electronics are
    same.

    I found the TPMSdirect.com Web site, which shows the same Part# as I
    found on a GM parts Web site (88974915), but none of the other makes and models (whether GM or Toyota) I've checked on the TPMSdirect.com Web
    site seems to use the same part.

    I don't have much time to take advantage of Costco's $70 discount on the tires I want plus $60 discount on the installation charge, so maybe I'll settle for just the wheels from the pick-your-part Vibe, and let Costco charge me for a new set of TPMS sensors; that's what I had to do to get
    them to install snow tires on the steelies I put on the Chrysler 300M
    two winters ago -- the only trouble with them is that I have to go back
    to Costco every winter to have them reprogram the car's TPMS receiver to recognize the "foreign" sensors.

    Well, the pick-your-part 2003 Vibe (the only Vibe in the yard) turned
    out to have only three wheels -- and alloy, which would be much more
    expensive. I couldn't find any other wheels that seemed to be the
    correct size* either; I've never seen so many cars without any wheels at
    all.

    * Costco says they are not allowed to fit tires on non-standard-size
    wheels. I had to work hard to persuade them to fit snow tires on the
    16-in. steelies I got for the 300M; I ended up telling them to pretend
    it was a Concorde.

    Perce

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  • From Steve W.@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Fri Nov 11 03:45:35 2016
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    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
    On 11/05/2016 03:58 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

    Well, the pick-your-part 2003 Vibe (the only Vibe in the yard) turned
    out to have only three wheels -- and alloy, which would be much more expensive. I couldn't find any other wheels that seemed to be the
    correct size* either; I've never seen so many cars without any wheels at
    all.

    * Costco says they are not allowed to fit tires on non-standard-size
    wheels. I had to work hard to persuade them to fit snow tires on the
    16-in. steelies I got for the 300M; I ended up telling them to pretend
    it was a Concorde.

    Perce


    Easy way around most of those restrictions. Take the rims/tires ONLY to
    the store, have the tires you want mounted, balanced. Look up the tire
    fitment you want before you go as well. Just be aware that you pretty
    much let them off the hook if you tell them you are installing the tire
    on a different vehicle than they put down.

    --
    Steve W.

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