On 11/2/2018 11:16 PM, Ron C wrote:
Seems that board suffers from that ribbon cable oxidationMackie did have a ribbon cable problem at one time and they were sending
problem that I seem to recall was common to them.
out replacement cables, but I don't believe the problem was with the
smaller mixers, only on the larger SR series and the d8b digital
console. Still, connectors can get cruddy with age and non-use, but they usually respond to a shot of contact cleaner and a little exercise (disconnect and re-connect the connection a few times). Don't forget
that ribbon cables have connectors on both ends. One end is usually easy
to get to, the other end sometimes is buried.
Can I still get replacement ribbon cables for that board?Not from Mackie, but the connectors and cable are standard parts, so it
would be possible to have new ones made if you really wanted to rescue
the console. But ribbon cables aren't the only thing that can go wrong.
Has Mackie solved the ribbon cable problem in the new board?The Mackie of today is very different from the Mackie that built your
1604 VLZ. The new mixers are completely made in China, so if there's a chronic problem (and I haven't heard of one, but then I don't keep close
tabs on them) it's surely not the same problem that they had 20 years ago.
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Resurrecting this old thread.
I also have an old Mackie 1604-VLZ with intermittent channel issues. Was thinking of replacing all of the ribbon cables but I'm unsure how to source replacements.
Does anyone have any further direction on that?
I also have an old Mackie 1604-VLZ with intermittent channel issues.
Was thinking of replacing all of the ribbon cables but I'm unsure how to source replacements.
Does anyone have any further direction on that?
I bet Mackie still has them in stock if you ask, but they won't be free.
However I also bet if you clean the old ones with DeOxit and put a little
dab of dielectric grease on them, they will be fine in spite of the lower contact area.
Scott Dorsey wrote:They definitely did fix it, because the replacement cables that they
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** Would be very old stock and have the same issue.
However I also bet if you clean the old ones with DeOxit and put a little
dab of dielectric grease on them, they will be fine in spite of the lower
contact area.
** The bad contacts were with the IDC and cable - not the pins.
Shameful of Mackie to have the ( very rare) problem happen and NEVER solve it.
** Would be very old stock and have the same issue.
However I also bet if you clean the old ones with DeOxit and put a little >> dab of dielectric grease on them, they will be fine in spite of the lower >> contact area.
** The bad contacts were with the IDC and cable - not the pins.
Shameful of Mackie to have the ( very rare) problem happen and NEVER solve it.
They definitely did fix it, because the replacement cables that they
provided were from a different manufacturer and did not fail.
At the time, they said the problem was because the male header and female connector were from different vendors and did not have the same shape contacts.
Scott Dorsey wrote:
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** Would be very old stock and have the same issue.
However I also bet if you clean the old ones with DeOxit and put a little
dab of dielectric grease on them, they will be fine in spite of the lower
contact area.
** The bad contacts were with the IDC and cable - not the pins.
Shameful of Mackie to have the ( very rare) problem happen and NEVER solve it.
They definitely did fix it, because the replacement cables that they provided were from a different manufacturer and did not fail.** I saw several Mackies with replacement cables ( sold as a set) with the SAME issue after a year or two.
At the time, they said the problem was because the male header and female connector were from different vendors and did not have the same shape contacts.** Horse manure.
The problem was incompatible ribbon cable and IDC pins.
One had only to touch the ribbon itself to hear signals drop in and out. Re-tightening the headers in a vice often helped, for a time.
Never seen the same issue with ANY other cables.
Same goes for Marshall, severely leaking PCB material is unheard of in guitar amps.
..... Phil
Thanks for your replies. I'm just surprised to not find anything online regarding these. You'd think there would be more detailed information on how to fix it somewhere but I haven't found anything except forum postings talking about the replacementcable set (which of course is not available anymore).
I'll reach out to Mackie and maybe someone there can point me in the right direction.
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:08:09 PM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
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** I saw several Mackies with replacement cables ( sold as a set) with the SAME issue after a year or two.
** Would be very old stock and have the same issue.
However I also bet if you clean the old ones with DeOxit and put a little >>>>> dab of dielectric grease on them, they will be fine in spite of the lower >>>>> contact area.
** The bad contacts were with the IDC and cable - not the pins.
Shameful of Mackie to have the ( very rare) problem happen and NEVER solve it.
They definitely did fix it, because the replacement cables that they
provided were from a different manufacturer and did not fail.
** Horse manure.
At the time, they said the problem was because the male header and female >>> connector were from different vendors and did not have the same shape
contacts.
The problem was incompatible ribbon cable and IDC pins.
One had only to touch the ribbon itself to hear signals drop in and out.
Re-tightening the headers in a vice often helped, for a time.
Never seen the same issue with ANY other cables.
Same goes for Marshall, severely leaking PCB material is unheard of in guitar amps.
..... Phil
I always understood that the Mackie thing was a metallurgical issue.
geoff wrote:
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I always understood that the Mackie thing was a metallurgical issue.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
..... Phil
geoff wrote:
=========
I always understood that the Mackie thing was a metallurgical issue.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
..... Phil
On 4/09/2022 12:55 pm, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
geoff wrote:
=========
I always understood that the Mackie thing was a metallurgical issue.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Funny how so many have been operating entirely reliably,
of the
world's infrastructure depending on them, for many decades.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
Ralph Boring One wrote:
=====================
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
Ralph Boring One wrote:
=====================
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
Please remember after you have finished insulting the person, to remember
to actually respond to what they had to say :-)
Ralph Boring One wrote:
=====================
Please remember after you have finished insulting the person, to remember** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector >>>>>
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
to actually respond to what they had to say :-)
** FFS moron - YOU had *nothing* to say.
Just a dumb as dogshit, mindless insult.
** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector >>>>>
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Please remember after you have finished insulting the person, to remember >> to actually respond to what they had to say :-)Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
** FFS moron - YOU had *nothing* to say.
Just a dumb as dogshit, mindless insult.
Since you seemed perfectly capable of spewing invective,
Ralph Barone Bullshitting IDIOT :
===========================
Since you seemed perfectly capable of spewing invective,** No fooling?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector >>>>>>>
IMO IDC = Inherently Dodgy Connection.
Please remember after you have finished insulting the person, to remember >>>> to actually respond to what they had to say :-)Tell that to the phone and internet companies.
** Yawwnnn...
Smartarse bullshit = no case to answer.
** FFS moron - YOU had *nothing* to say.
Just a dumb as dogshit, mindless insult.
** That is a MASSIVE lie.
What a VILE person you are, Ralph.
A toxic narcissist, pedant and ego manic.
Bet your parents were vile too.
FOAD.
..... Phil
** FFS moron - YOU had *nothing* to say.Since you seemed perfectly capable of spewing invective,
Just a dumb as dogshit, mindless insult.
** That is a MASSIVE lie.
What a VILE person you are, Ralph.
A toxic narcissist, pedant and ego manic.
Bet your parents were vile too.
FOAD.
Awfully nice of you to snip my post showing the reasons why I thought your original post was wrong.
Ralph Barone: Toxic Narcisist & Troll:
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Awfully nice of you to snip my post showing the reasons why I thought your >> original post was wrong.** FFS moron - YOU had *nothing* to say.Since you seemed perfectly capable of spewing invective,
Just a dumb as dogshit, mindless insult.
** That is a MASSIVE lie.
What a VILE person you are, Ralph.
A toxic narcissist, pedant and ego manic.
Bet your parents were vile too.
FOAD.
** Listen asshole.
You are soooo fucking autistic, pedantic and stupid you have ZERO idea
what I wrote *actually meant*.
In fact, you have IGNORED what I wrote and substituted you own, wrong assumptions.
YOU are the vile child of even viler parents.
....... Phil
** Listen asshole.
You are soooo fucking autistic, pedantic and stupid you have ZERO idea
what I wrote *actually meant*.
In fact, you have IGNORED what I wrote and substituted you own, wrong assumptions.
YOU are the vile child of even viler parents.
OK, then explain what you really meant.
Actually participate in the
discussion and point out how I have misunderstood you.
Ralph Barone: Toxic Narcisist & Troll:
===============================
OK, then explain what you really meant.
** Listen asshole.
You are soooo fucking autistic, pedantic and stupid you have ZERO idea
what I wrote *actually meant*.
In fact, you have IGNORED what I wrote and substituted you own, wrong assumptions.
YOU are the vile child of even viler parents.
** I wrote it all here - you did not fucking read it ALL,
Actually participate in the
discussion and point out how I have misunderstood you.
** No way - you dumbfuck asshole.
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